GNU bug report logs - #10133
log-view and transient mark mode

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Reported by: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:17:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Found in version 24.0.91

Done: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>

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From: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.0.91; mark-active
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:15:12 +0000
The value of mark-active isn't always correct. (I first noticed this
when I typed `d' in a vc-log-view buffer and got the diff between the
revisions at point and mark, not the diff for the change at point.)

From `emacs -Q',

M-x transient-mark-mode <return>
=> Transient-Mark mode disabled

M-: mark-active <return>
=> nil

C-SPC
=> Mark set

M-: mark-active <return>
=> t


In GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2011-11-25 on 57172UHB
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --cflags -fno-omit-frame-pointer'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: ENG
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x t r a n s i e n t - m a r k - m o d e <return>
M-: m a r k - a c t i v e <return> C-SPC M-: m a r
k - a c t i v e <return> M-x r e p o r t - e m a c
s - b u g <return>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Transient-Mark mode disabled
nil
Mark set
t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

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multi-tty emacs)




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Message #8 received at 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
To: 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10133 (24.0.91; mark-active)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:30:25 +0000
Ah, I see that `mark-active' isn't quite what I thought it was. I
guess the bug is that the functions in "log-view.el" should be using
`use-region-p' or `region-active-p' rather than `mark-active'.




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Message #11 received at 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10133: (24.0.91; mark-active)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:54:24 -0500
Richard Copley wrote:

> I guess the bug is that the functions in "log-view.el" should be using
> `use-region-p' or `region-active-p' rather than `mark-active'.

Why? That would make them dependent on transient mark mode.
Nowhere in the doc of eg log-view-diff does it say that the function
behaves differently if transient mark mode is on. So I don't see that
there is a bug here.





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Message #14 received at 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>, 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10133: (24.0.91; mark-active)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:52:30 -0500
>> I guess the bug is that the functions in "log-view.el" should be using
>> `use-region-p' or `region-active-p' rather than `mark-active'.
> Why? That would make them dependent on transient mark mode.

But the current behavior means that without transient-mark-mode, if
you've set the mark at some point in the past, you can't do a "diff with
current file" any more, only a "diff between revision at point and
revision at mark".

> Nowhere in the doc of eg log-view-diff does it say that the function
> behaves differently if transient mark mode is on.  So I don't see that
> there is a bug here.

It's maybe not a bug, but it's a limitation.
I think `use-region-p' would make a lot of sense here nowadays (there
was no temporary tmm back when I wrote the code, so something like
use-region-p would have made the "diff between 2 revisions"
inaccessible to non-tmm users, but this limit has now been lifted).


        Stefan




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Message #17 received at 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>, 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10133: (24.0.91; mark-active)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:27:22 -0500
Stefan Monnier wrote:

> But the current behavior means that without transient-mark-mode, if
> you've set the mark at some point in the past, you can't do a "diff with
> current file" any more, only a "diff between revision at point and
> revision at mark".

You can move the mark to point, though I agree it's not ideal.

> I think `use-region-p' would make a lot of sense here nowadays (there
> was no temporary tmm back when I wrote the code, so something like
> use-region-p would have made the "diff between 2 revisions"
> inaccessible to non-tmm users, but this limit has now been lifted).

Some people disable even temporary tmm. :)




Changed bug title to 'log-view and transient mark mode' from '24.0.91; mark-active' Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:20:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to 'minor' from 'normal' Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:20:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #24 received at 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>,
	10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10133: (24.0.91; mark-active)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:50:25 +0800
Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> Nowhere in the doc of eg log-view-diff does it say that the function
>> behaves differently if transient mark mode is on.  So I don't see that
>> there is a bug here.
>
> It's maybe not a bug, but it's a limitation.
> I think `use-region-p' would make a lot of sense here nowadays (there
> was no temporary tmm back when I wrote the code, so something like
> use-region-p would have made the "diff between 2 revisions"
> inaccessible to non-tmm users, but this limit has now been lifted).

I changed it to use use-region-p.




bug closed, send any further explanations to 10133 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com> Request was from Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:59:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:24:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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