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24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer

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From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:17:05 -0400

I have found out more about the bug that switches to the
Rmail view buffer, named ` *message-viewer RMAIL*'.

It happened after I typed C-c C-c at the *mail* buffer.
It switched to ` *message-viewer RMAIL*'.spontaneously.
It has happened several times recently.

The buffers whose names start with space should never be
shown to the user unless expicitly requested.

I will continue investigating.


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 of 2012-04-10 on theobromine2
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Message #8 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:30:10 +0200

> It happened after I typed C-c C-c at the *mail* buffer.
> It switched to ` *message-viewer RMAIL*'.spontaneously.
> It has happened several times recently.
>
> The buffers whose names start with space should never be
> shown to the user unless expicitly requested.
>
> I will continue investigating.

Could you try running your Emacs with something like

(defun wcch ()
  (when (get-buffer-window " *message-viewer RMAIL*" t)
    (backtrace)))

(add-hook 'window-configuration-change-hook 'wcch)

activated?

martin

Message #11 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:31:56 -0400

The problem is that other-buffer sometimes returns
` *message-viewer RMAIL*'.

other-buffer must never return a buffer whose name starts
with space, except perhaps it was recently displayed.

Meanwhile, I sometimes find that C-c C-c in Mail mode does not switch
buffers at all; it stays in the Mail buffer.  That is a different
manifestation but I suspect it is the same bug.

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Message #14 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:52:00 +0200

> The problem is that other-buffer sometimes returns
> ` *message-viewer RMAIL*'.

If you look at the code of `other-buffer' that doesn't seem possible:
Both loops trigger iff

     (SREF (BVAR (XBUFFER (buf), name), 0) != ' ')

so please try my recipe.

> other-buffer must never return a buffer whose name starts
> with space, except perhaps it was recently displayed.
>
> Meanwhile, I sometimes find that C-c C-c in Mail mode does not switch
> buffers at all; it stays in the Mail buffer.  That is a different
> manifestation but I suspect it is the same bug.

What command does C-c C-c run?

martin

Message #17 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: rms <at> gnu.org, 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:18:00 +0300

> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:52:00 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > Meanwhile, I sometimes find that C-c C-c in Mail mode does not switch
>  > buffers at all; it stays in the Mail buffer.  That is a different
>  > manifestation but I suspect it is the same bug.
> 
> What command does C-c C-c run?

It runs the command mail-send-and-exit.

Message #22 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:18:30 -0400

    If you look at the code of `other-buffer' that doesn't seem possible:
    Both loops trigger iff

	  (SREF (BVAR (XBUFFER (buf), name), 0) != ' ')

    so please try my recipe.

What recipe?

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Message #25 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:18:31 -0400

    What command does C-c C-c run?

mail-send-and-exit.
It calls mail-bury, which gets ` *message-viewer RMAIL'
as the value of newbuf.


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Message #28 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: rms <at> gnu.org, 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:14:09 +0200

> It runs the command mail-send-and-exit.

which calls `mail-bury' where we have two options to show a buffer whose
name starts with a space, namely

(defun mail-bury (&optional arg)
  ...
    (bury-buffer (current-buffer)) <---------- HERE
    ...
      (switch-to-buffer newbuf)))) <----------- OR HERE

and we'd have to find out which of these is responsible.

martin

Message #31 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:14:16 +0200

>     If you look at the code of `other-buffer' that doesn't seem possible:
>     Both loops trigger iff
> 
> 	  (SREF (BVAR (XBUFFER (buf), name), 0) != ' ')
> 
>     so please try my recipe.
> 
> What recipe?

Please put

(defun wcch ()
  (when (get-buffer-window " *message-viewer RMAIL*" t)
    (backtrace)))

(add-hook 'window-configuration-change-hook 'wcch)

in your .emacs and when it triggers post the backtrace here.

Thanks, martin

Message #34 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 16:12:33 -0400

    which calls `mail-bury' where we have two options to show a buffer whose
    name starts with a space, namely

    (defun mail-bury (&optional arg)
       ...
	 (bury-buffer (current-buffer)) <---------- HERE
	 ...
	   (switch-to-buffer newbuf)))) <----------- OR HERE

It's neither one.  It's done by this code.

    ;; If there is an Rmail buffer, return to it nicely
    ;; even if this message was not started by an Rmail command.
    (unless return-action
      (dolist (buffer (buffer-list))
	(if (eq (buffer-local-value 'major-mode buffer) 'rmail-mode)
	    (setq return-action `(rmail-mail-return ,newbuf)))))

When the bug occurs, NEWBUF is the message view buffer.
It was returned by other-buffer.

    (defun wcch ()
       (when (get-buffer-window " *message-viewer RMAIL*" t)
	 (backtrace)))

    (add-hook 'window-configuration-change-hook 'wcch)

    in your .emacs and when it triggers post the backtrace here.

There is no need.  I already said how that buffer gets selected:
later in mail-bury, where it handles return-action.

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Message #37 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:15:54 +0200

>     which calls `mail-bury' where we have two options to show a buffer whose
>     name starts with a space, namely
>
>     (defun mail-bury (&optional arg)
>        ...
> 	 (bury-buffer (current-buffer)) <---------- HERE
> 	 ...
> 	   (switch-to-buffer newbuf)))) <----------- OR HERE
>
> It's neither one.  It's done by this code.
>
>     ;; If there is an Rmail buffer, return to it nicely
>     ;; even if this message was not started by an Rmail command.
>     (unless return-action
>       (dolist (buffer (buffer-list))
> 	(if (eq (buffer-local-value 'major-mode buffer) 'rmail-mode)
> 	    (setq return-action `(rmail-mail-return ,newbuf)))))

Maybe.  But how can you be sure that `bury-buffer' has no effect?  Do
you have a buffer in rmail-mode at that time?  Is `rmail-mail-return'
definitely called?  Is NEWBUF really a buffer starting with a space?

martin

Message #40 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>, 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:18:09 +0800

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

> It's neither one.  It's done by this code.
>
>     ;; If there is an Rmail buffer, return to it nicely
>     ;; even if this message was not started by an Rmail command.
>     (unless return-action
>       (dolist (buffer (buffer-list))
> 	(if (eq (buffer-local-value 'major-mode buffer) 'rmail-mode)
> 	    (setq return-action `(rmail-mail-return ,newbuf)))))

This code is wrong; the NEWBUF should not be passed to
rmail-mail-return, it should be the BUFFER variable in the loop.  I've
committed a fix.


BTW, having code in mail-bury to specially handle Rmail buffers is kinda
ugly.  This probably needs to be folded into the quit-window mechanism,
somehow.  In the first place, I'm not even sure it's appropriate to
redirect the user to an Rmail buffer if the mail command was not started
from Rmail.

Message #45 received at 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 11242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11242: 24.1.50; Switching to rmai view buffer
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:01:48 -0400

    This code is wrong; the NEWBUF should not be passed to
    rmail-mail-return, it should be the BUFFER variable in the loop.  I've
    committed a fix.

I think you're right.

However, it is nonetheless true that other-buffer should not return
buffers whose names start with space.

    BTW, having code in mail-bury to specially handle Rmail buffers is kinda
    ugly.  This probably needs to be folded into the quit-window mechanism,
    somehow.  In the first place, I'm not even sure it's appropriate to
    redirect the user to an Rmail buffer if the mail command was not started
    from Rmail.

Yes it is appropriate.  I put it in because the lack of it was a
nuisance.

But if that feature were removed, look what would happen:

    (if (and (null arg) return-action)
	(apply (car return-action) (cdr return-action))
      (switch-to-buffer newbuf))))

It would switch to NEWBUF, the same bug as was just happening.

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