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NS crash in remember_mouse_glyph

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From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:07:31 +0200

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and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org.  Please check that
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Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators for other languages.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':

I described the problem here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670

and in more detail here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775

Please let me know if you need more details.

Cheers,

Marius

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In GNU Emacs 24.0.95.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36)
 of 2012-04-02 on bob.porkrind.org
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138
Configured using:
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 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc
 -mmacosx-version-min=10.5''

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Recent input:
u SPC w e i t e r ? <return> <return> L G <S-return> 
<S-return> M a r i u s <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> r i c h t i g 
SPC <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> C-c C-c <wheel-up> 
<double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<wheel-down> <double-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <wheel-down> <double-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <wheel-up> 
<double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
C-x k <return> C-x k <return> s-w <help-echo> s-n C-x 
b c o m <tab> <return> <up> <up> <left> <tab> <up> 
<tab> <left> <tab> <down> <down> <down> <tab> <up> 
<up> <tab> <tab> <down> <tab> <s-left> C-x k <return> 
y <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <help-echo> <up> <up> <down> C-a C-SPC 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> M-w <up> <up> <up> <down> <down> 
C-x k <return> s-w M-x g <return> <up> L <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <down> g <return> <return> M-> M-< g 
C-x k <return> C-x 1 g <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> l <up> m M 
a r i u s <tab> g o o <tab> <down> f o o <tab> <tab> 
<tab> <down> <down> <down> <down> c h e c k C-c C-c 
<return> <return> C-x k <return> <return> E q <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> q M-x r e p r <backspace> o r <tab> <ret
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Dr. Marius Hofert
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HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #8 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:32:25 -0400

Marius Hofert wrote:

> I described the problem here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>
> and in more detail here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
>
> Please let me know if you need more details.

As a mild rant, I greatly prefer to get self-contained bug reports,
rather than ones that just refer me to URLs for the (often vague)
details. The stackoverflow reference, like many of the ones forwarded to
this list recently, is useless. The org mode one contains actual
details (backtrace etc).

Rant over! :)
I hope someone can help with your problem, which like many crashes seems
to be specific to the NS port of Emacs.

Message #11 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:31:59 +0300

> From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:07:31 +0200
> 
> I described the problem here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
> 
> and in more detail here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775

FWIW, the backtrace you posted indicates that the crash happens when
Emacs attempts to display a tooltip.  I'm guessing that the crash was
here:

  w = XWINDOW (window);

because 'window' is not a window object.

> Please let me know if you need more details.

It would be nice to know where exactly it crashes inside
remember_mouse_glyph, and why.

Message #16 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:40:57 +0200

On 2012-04-16, at 21:31 , Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:07:31 +0200
>> 
>> I described the problem here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>> 
>> and in more detail here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
> 
> FWIW, the backtrace you posted indicates that the crash happens when
> Emacs attempts to display a tooltip.  I'm guessing that the crash was
> here:
> 
>  w = XWINDOW (window);
> 
> because 'window' is not a window object.
> 
>> Please let me know if you need more details.
> 
> It would be nice to know where exactly it crashes inside
> remember_mouse_glyph, and why.

Thanks for taking your time to deal with this. 

Unfortunately, I don't know what you mean by remember_mouse_glyph so I can't be more specific at this point. What I can do is (due to the relatively large number of crashes I have) to send you output (of Console.app) of other crashes, too. I hope this will help. 

Does it help if I send you my full ~/.emacs?

Cheers,

Marius


ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #19 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:44:12 +0200

On 2012-04-16, at 21:32 , Glenn Morris wrote:

> Marius Hofert wrote:
> 
>> I described the problem here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>> 
>> and in more detail here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
>> 
>> Please let me know if you need more details.
> 
> As a mild rant, I greatly prefer to get self-contained bug reports,
> rather than ones that just refer me to URLs for the (often vague)
> details. The stackoverflow reference, like many of the ones forwarded to
> this list recently, is useless.

Okay, I'm sorry for this. 
I already knew I can't provide a minimal example, so your rant is justified.

> The org mode one contains actual
> details (backtrace etc).
> 
> Rant over! :)
> I hope someone can help with your problem, which like many crashes seems
> to be specific to the NS port of Emacs.

So Mac-specific. I kind of expected that since I use 99% of my setup under linux, too, and I didn't see crashes there (but the problem with this statement is that I use 99% the Mac and 1% Linux).

Cheers,

Marius


ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #22 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:00:06 +0300

> From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:40:57 +0200
> CC: <11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
> 
> > It would be nice to know where exactly it crashes inside
> > remember_mouse_glyph, and why.
> 
> Thanks for taking your time to deal with this. 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know what you mean by remember_mouse_glyph

It's a function defined in xdisp.c, around line 2150.

> so I can't be more specific at this point. What I can do is (due to the relatively large number of crashes I have) to send you output (of Console.app) of other crashes, too. I hope this will help. 

I hope too, because that output leaves a lot to be desired.

> Does it help if I send you my full ~/.emacs?

No, but thanks for offering.

Message #25 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 02:15:11 +0200

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:

> I described the problem here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>
> and in more detail here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775

This bug is being explored on the org-mode list, I'll close it 
here when things are sorted out.

-- 
 Bastien

Message #28 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:06:00 +0200

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The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce this at some point in the future). 

Cheers,

Marius

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On 2012-04-17, at 02:15 , Bastien wrote:

> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:
> 
>> I described the problem here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>> 
>> and in more detail here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
> 
> This bug is being explored on the org-mode list, I'll close it 
> here when things are sorted out.
> 
> -- 
> Bastien

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #31 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
Cc: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:51:58 -0400

> This bug is being explored on the org-mode list,

That seems ill-advised, since it looks like a plain crash, which can
only be due to a bug in the C code.


        Stefan

Message #34 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:32:13 +0800

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:

> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was
> in an emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to
> click the other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can
> really reproduce this at some point in the future).

The Cocoa stack trace is almost useless for debugging.  Please run Emacs
under GDB, and post the GDB backtrace the next time the crash happens.

Your binary should be compiled with debugging symbols enabled, and
preferably with no compiler optimizations.

Message #37 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:04:30 +0200

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> This bug is being explored on the org-mode list,
>
> That seems ill-advised, since it looks like a plain crash, which can
> only be due to a bug in the C code.

This was not an advice, just a fact.  The information I wanted to 
share was "If this issue is solved on the org-mode list, I will 
close it here."

-- 
 Bastien

Message #40 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:34:33 +0200

Hi Marius,

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:

> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an
> emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the
> other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce
> this at some point in the future).

I hope too -- thanks for discussing this bug here, since it definitely
looks like it's an Emacs bug.

-- 
 Bastien

Message #43 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:37:50 +0200

Dear all,

I had two further crashes this morning but due to my (multiple) jobs no time yet to work with Emacs in debug mode (I've never done that, I'm an emacs user for just some months). 

I'll look into that when I have more time, should be towards the end of the week, and get back to you.

Thanks for taking the time, I really hope we can sort this out -- totally annoying if you work in front of 100 students and your Emacs crashes all the time...

Cheers,

Marius

On 2012-04-18, at 13:34 , Bastien wrote:

> Hi Marius,
> 
> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:
> 
>> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
>> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an
>> emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the
>> other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce
>> this at some point in the future).
> 
> I hope too -- thanks for discussing this bug here, since it definitely
> looks like it's an Emacs bug.
> 
> -- 
> Bastien

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #46 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:43:15 +0200

I used "M-x set-variable <RET> debug-on-error <RET> t" to set Emacs in debug mode. After this change, I just changed buffers until it crashed again. I thought I'm lucky but apparently not: How do I obtain a "Backtrace buffer" when Emacs crashes... ? After a restart, there was no such buffer :-(

On 2012-04-18, at 13:37 , Marius Hofert wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I had two further crashes this morning but due to my (multiple) jobs no time yet to work with Emacs in debug mode (I've never done that, I'm an emacs user for just some months). 
> 
> I'll look into that when I have more time, should be towards the end of the week, and get back to you.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time, I really hope we can sort this out -- totally annoying if you work in front of 100 students and your Emacs crashes all the time...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marius
> 
> On 2012-04-18, at 13:34 , Bastien wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marius,
>> 
>> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:
>> 
>>> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
>>> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an
>>> emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the
>>> other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce
>>> this at some point in the future).
>> 
>> I hope too -- thanks for discussing this bug here, since it definitely
>> looks like it's an Emacs bug.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bastien
> 
> ETH Zurich
> Dr. Marius Hofert
> RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
> HG E 65.2
> Rämistrasse 101
> 8092 Zurich
> Switzerland
> 
> Phone +41 44 632 2423
> marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
> http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj
> 

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #49 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:57:34 +0800

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:

> I used "M-x set-variable <RET> debug-on-error <RET> t" to set Emacs in
> debug mode. After this change, I just changed buffers until it crashed
> again. I thought I'm lucky but apparently not: How do I obtain a
> "Backtrace buffer" when Emacs crashes... ? After a restart, there was
> no such buffer :-(

You have to compile Emacs from source, start Emacs from inside GDB from
inside the Emacs src/ directory (run "gdb emacs", then "r" at the GDB
prompt), and trigger the crash.  Then use the command "bt" in GDB to
view the backtrace.

Message #52 received at 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>, 11257 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:48:50 +0200

Hi,

I could finally manage to compile Emacs from source. This is something I wanted to do already half a year ago, but it didn't work (many errors) and I didn't know how to fix this. This is how I came to http://emacsformacosx.com/builds. But thanks to the post on 
http://carlgroner.me/Emacs/OSX/2011/10/19/Building-Emacs-for-Mac-OSX-Lion.html
It finally worked without flaws. I worked with Emacs the whole day today and did not experience a single crash. I hope it remains like this :-). 
My guess is that the final problem came from the fact that the Emacs I originally used was built under 10.6.8 and I ran it on 10.7.3. Why the log-files from Console.app showed org-mode is still strange to me, but I'm definitely not an expert on these issues.

I'll get back to you if I experience another crash. For now, it seem's good.

Cheers,

Marius

On 2012-04-18, at 16:57 , Chong Yidong wrote:

> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:
> 
>> I used "M-x set-variable <RET> debug-on-error <RET> t" to set Emacs in
>> debug mode. After this change, I just changed buffers until it crashed
>> again. I thought I'm lucky but apparently not: How do I obtain a
>> "Backtrace buffer" when Emacs crashes... ? After a restart, there was
>> no such buffer :-(
> 
> You have to compile Emacs from source, start Emacs from inside GDB from
> inside the Emacs src/ directory (run "gdb emacs", then "r" at the GDB
> prompt), and trigger the crash.  Then use the command "bt" in GDB to
> view the backtrace.

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj

Message #57 received at 11257-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>, 11257-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:56:10 +0200

Hi Marius,

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert <at> math.ethz.ch> writes:

> I'll get back to you if I experience another crash. For now, it seem's
> good.

Thanks for the report!  I'm closing this bug.

-- 
 Bastien

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