GNU bug report logs - #12680
24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message)

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From: Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:33:36 +0100 (BST)

If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in
particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message).
This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon.

        Christopher

Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#12680: 24.2.50;
	about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:11 -0400

Christopher Schmidt wrote:

> If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in
> particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message).
> This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon.

Sorry, I don't understand.
Why is it confusing when Emacs was not started as a daemon?
Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way?

Message #11 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#12680: 24.2.50;
	about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:30:55 +0100 (BST)

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:
> Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>
>> If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in
>> particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message).
>> This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand.
> Why is it confusing when Emacs was not started as a daemon?

Pressing C-h C-a will make Emacs message "For information about GNU
Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.".  This message is superfluous
because that very information is already displayed and the user most
likely just did press C-h C-a.

> Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way?

In this case Emacs messages "Starting Emacs daemon."  This message has
nothing to do with about-emacs.

        Christopher

Message #14 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#12680: 24.2.50;
	about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:17:04 +0800

Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com> writes:

> Pressing C-h C-a will make Emacs message "For information about GNU
> Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.".  This message is superfluous
> because that very information is already displayed and the user most
> likely just did press C-h C-a.
>
>> Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way?
>
> In this case Emacs messages "Starting Emacs daemon."  This message has
> nothing to do with about-emacs.

You're right, the message does nothing.  I removed it.

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