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24.3.50; shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names

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From: <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.3.50;  shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:35:15 +0000

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The `shell-command' function fails if `w32-downcase-file-names' is true.


Recipe from -Q:
M-: (setq SPC w32-downcase-file-names SPC t) RET

M-! dir <return>


Result:
(Shell command failed with error)
shell-command-on-region: File exists: c:/users/buster/appdata/local/temp/emxxxxxx


In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200)
 of 2013-02-08 on MACHINE
Bzr revision: 111700 monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca-20130208174209-vpjpdh4qipaceoh5
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.2.9200
Configured using:
 `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --cflags -I c:/gnuwin32/include --ldflags
 -L c:/gnuwin32/lib’


Important settings:
  value of $LANG: ENG
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t


Major mode: Lisp Interaction


Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t


Recent input:
( s e t q SPC w 3 2 - d o w n c a s e - f i l e - n 
a m e s SPC t ) C-x C-e M-! g c c SPC - - v e r s i 
o n <return> M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s w - b u g
<return>


Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
t
(Shell command failed with error)
shell-command-on-region: File exists: c:/users/buster/appdata/local/temp/emxxxxxx


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Message #10 received at 13661-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: rcopley <at> gmail.com
Cc: 13661-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13661: 24.3.50;
	shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:38:54 +0200

> From: <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:35:15 +0000
> 
> The `shell-command' function fails if `w32-downcase-file-names' is true.
> 
> 
> Recipe from -Q:
> M-: (setq SPC w32-downcase-file-names SPC t) RET
> 
> M-! dir <return>
> 
> 
> Result:
> (Shell command failed with error)
> shell-command-on-region: File exists: c:/users/buster/appdata/local/temp/emxxxxxx

Damn that w32-downcase-file-names option!  Why are people still using
it in the year 2013??

Thanks; fixed in revision 111711.

Message #13 received at 13661-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" <eliz <at> gnu.org>, <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 13661-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#13661: 24.3.50;
	shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:30:33 -0800

> Damn that w32-downcase-file-names option!  Why are people still using
> it in the year 2013??

Hm.  FWIW, I wasn't even aware of that option.

If it is not so appropriate now (or ever?), why not tweak the doc string to
suggest that?  Reading the doc string, you can easily get the impression that
you might want this to be non-nil.

IOW, if you wonder why people are still using this in 2013, maybe take a look at
what Emacs tells users about it.

Message #16 received at 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: rcopley <at> gmail.com, eliz <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13661: 24.3.50;
	shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:02:07 -0500

> Damn that w32-downcase-file-names option!

If we don't want people to use it, then let's mark it obsolete.


        Stefan

Message #19 received at 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rcopley <at> gmail.com, 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13661: 24.3.50;
	shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:41:46 +0200

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org,  rcopley <at> gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:02:07 -0500
> 
> > Damn that w32-downcase-file-names option!
> 
> If we don't want people to use it, then let's mark it obsolete.

I will start a discussion about this on emacs-devel.  Let's see how
many people will holler.

Message #22 received at 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>, 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#13661: 24.3.50;
	shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:43:59 +0000

> Damn that w32-downcase-file-names option!  Why are people still using it in the year 2013??

I don't remember why I use it (something to do with RCS I expect), but
I'll stop, and report any issues if they surface.

> Thanks; fixed in revision 111711.

Thanks!

Message #25 received at 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 13661 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: bug#13661: 24.3.50;
	shell-command fails with w32-downcase-file-names
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:33:02 +0200

> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:43:59 +0000
> From: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
> 
> > Damn that w32-downcase-file-names option!  Why are people still using it in the year 2013??
> 
> I don't remember why I use it (something to do with RCS I expect)

I'd be curious to know how RCS is related to this.  I use it myself.

> but I'll stop, and report any issues if they surface.

Thank you.

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