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DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc

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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:22:15 -0500

Package: emacs
Version: 24.3.50

Current trunk on GNU/Linux:

emacs -Q ./etc/enriched.doc

You are supposed to see a buffer in enriched mode with coloured text and
other formatting. Instead DocView steals the buffer and renders an ugly
png with completely messed up formatting.

It works correctly in 24.3.

Message #6 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:35:38 -0500

Glenn Morris wrote:

> It works correctly in 24.3.

I guess it would fail in 24.3 as well if I had "unoconv" installed.
doc-view-mode-maybe decides that the type is 'odf.

Message #9 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:31:23 +0100

Hi Glenn,

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Glenn Morris wrote:
>
>> It works correctly in 24.3.
>
> I guess it would fail in 24.3 as well if I had "unoconv" installed.
> doc-view-mode-maybe decides that the type is 'odf.

Using .doc as the extension is confusing to the user and to the
computer where those files may be (visually) associated with the
wrong program.

Maybe we should simply use another extension?

.ert (as Emacs Rich Text)

What do you think?

-- 
 Bastien

Message #12 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
Cc: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:04:08 -0500

Bastien wrote:

> Using .doc as the extension is confusing to the user and to the
> computer where those files may be (visually) associated with the
> wrong program.

Probably .doc is not a good extension these days.

> Maybe we should simply use another extension?
>
> .ert (as Emacs Rich Text)

I assume there was a reason why that wasn't done to start with.
Enriched mode is a minor mode, not a major mode.
I guess the idea is that you can use it with whatever major mode you
prefer (though I guess it would always be text mode in practice).

I think just using .txt for the example file would be better than making
up a new extension.

But it seems to me that it should work better than it does now even if
you use a .doc extension.

Message #15 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: bzg <at> altern.org, 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:02:18 +0200

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:04:08 -0500
> Cc: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I think just using .txt for the example file would be better than making
> up a new extension.

Exactly my thoughts.

Message #18 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:27:54 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:04:08 -0500
>> Cc: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> I think just using .txt for the example file would be better than making
>> up a new extension.
>
> Exactly my thoughts.

+1

-- 
 Bastien

Message #21 received at 15947-quiet <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 15947-quiet <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:22:54 -0500

severity 15947 minor
stop

Glenn Morris wrote:

> I think just using .txt for the example file would be better than making
> up a new extension.

Done.

> But it seems to me that it should work better than it does now even if
> you use a .doc extension.

Leaving open as minor severity for this.

Message #24 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 18:14:14 +0100

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> But it seems to me that it should work better than it does now even if
>> you use a .doc extension.
>
> Leaving open as minor severity for this.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

Has this been fixed in the meantime?  I'm not able to reproduce this
issue in Emacs 29 -- if I rename enriched.txt to enriched.doc, Emacs
does not use Docview to view it.  But I may be missing something in my
environment...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #29 received at 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 15947 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15947: DocView interferes with etc/enriched.doc
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:14:58 +0100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Has this been fixed in the meantime?  I'm not able to reproduce this
> issue in Emacs 29 -- if I rename enriched.txt to enriched.doc, Emacs
> does not use Docview to view it.  But I may be missing something in my
> environment...

More information was requested, but no response was given within a
month, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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