GNU bug report logs - #17768
24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows

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Reported by: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 23:59:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 24.3

Done: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>

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From: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 01:57:20 +0200
Hello,

  I think I found a bug in ruler-mode; a recipe
to reproduce it follows here below; may I please
ask if it's reproducible for you as well.

Start emacs -Q and type:

    M-x ruler-mode RET C-x 3

you will see two side-by-side windows that show the same
scratch buffer. That's normal and expected.

  Now use mouse to adjust the *left* margin of the
*rightside* window (Shift + mouse-1 on the ruler): it does
not work, i.e. clicking has no visible effect. 

Other facts I found:

  - problem doesn't happen in the leftside window, only
    in the rightside one

  - problem doesn't happen if the frame is splitted vertically
    (C-x 2) instead of horizontally

  - problem seems to happen in the rightside window for *all*
    the ruler mouse functions (adjust right margin, drag goal
    column etc.).

  Proposed diagnosys: there could be some error in the ruler's
horizontal offset management (frame-based column vs. window-relative
column).

  The left margin mouse adjustment seems to work properly if
I change the elisp code of file ruler-mode.el, function
ruler-mode-mouse-set-left-margin: 

from

(setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start)) (car (window-edges))
                     (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
...              

into

(setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start)) 
                     (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
...

  That's not a solution, just an attempt to isolate the
problematic code point.

  Thanks for your attention, kindest regards.

  Andrea



In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
 of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600
Configured using:
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bug#17768; Package emacs. (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:30:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>, 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:29:23 +0200
>    The left margin mouse adjustment seems to work properly if
> I change the elisp code of file ruler-mode.el, function
> ruler-mode-mouse-set-left-margin:
>
> from
>
> (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start)) (car (window-edges))
>                       (scroll-bar-columns 'left))

The value returned by `posn-col-row' is relative to the edges of the
window where the event occurred.  It is called from `posn-x-y' whose
info entry states that "These coordinates are relative to the window
given by `posn-window'".  However any such information is left out from
doc-string and info on `posn-col-row'.  This might have confused the
author of ruler-mode and certainly confuses me now.

Could someone look into the doc-string and info entry of `posn-col-row'
and maybe improve them to avoid such confusion.  For example:

     This function returns a cons cell `(COL .  ROW)', containing the
     estimated column and row corresponding to buffer position

... what does "buffer position" mean here ...

     POSITION.  The return value is given in units of the frame's
     default character width and height, as computed from the X and Y
     values corresponding to POSITION.  (So, if the actual characters
     have non-default sizes, the actual row and column may differ from
     these computed values.)

     Note that ROW is counted from the top of the text area.  If the
     window

... which window is meant here ...

     possesses a header line (*note Header Lines::), it is _not_
     counted as the first line.

... this sounds obvious but what ´does "not counting" stand for?

But maybe there's nothing confusing here and it's only me to
misinterpret things.

> into
>
> (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start))
>                       (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
> ...

This sounds like the correct solution to me.  Could you try testing it
with three and more side-by-side windows and all sorts of clicks ruler
mode can handle and possibly post a corresponding patch?

Many thanks for the report, martin





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bug#17768; Package emacs. (Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:47:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com, 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:45:46 +0300
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:29:23 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> 
>  >    The left margin mouse adjustment seems to work properly if
>  > I change the elisp code of file ruler-mode.el, function
>  > ruler-mode-mouse-set-left-margin:
>  >
>  > from
>  >
>  > (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start)) (car (window-edges))
>  >                       (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
> 
> The value returned by `posn-col-row' is relative to the edges of the
> window where the event occurred.  It is called from `posn-x-y' whose
> info entry states that "These coordinates are relative to the window
> given by `posn-window'".  However any such information is left out from
> doc-string and info on `posn-col-row'.  This might have confused the
> author of ruler-mode and certainly confuses me now.

How else can column and row be measured, except from the window edge?

> Could someone look into the doc-string and info entry of `posn-col-row'
> and maybe improve them to avoid such confusion.

I don't understand the confusion, but I went out and made it more
clear anyway (r117242 on the emacs-24 branch).

> For example:
> 
>       This function returns a cons cell `(COL .  ROW)', containing the
>       estimated column and row corresponding to buffer position
> 
> ... what does "buffer position" mean here ...

The meaning of the word "position" is overloaded here: the POSITION
argument of the function includes a reference to a buffer position.  A
better way to say that is "... corresponding to the buffer position
given by POSITION."

>       Note that ROW is counted from the top of the text area.  If the
>       window
> 
> ... which window is meant here ...

The window given by POSITION, of course.  Perhaps you misremember that
the POSITION argument is a complex data structure, not just a number.
It includes a reference to the window where the event took place.

>       possesses a header line (*note Header Lines::), it is _not_
>       counted as the first line.
> 
> ... this sounds obvious but what ´does "not counting" stand for?

It stands for "not counting".  IOW, the header line is not included in
the row count, and the first text line is still row number zero, not
number 1.

>  > into
>  >
>  > (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start))
>  >                       (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
>  > ...
> 
> This sounds like the correct solution to me.

In general, one should stay away of columns when dealing with
coordinates, since columns are measured in logical order, i.e. in a
R2L line they are measured from the right edge of the window.  But
since in this case columns are just x coordinates measured in other
units (and therefore calling them "columns" is a misnomer), I think
it's OK in this case.




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From: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:22:21 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> writes:
> Could you try testing it
> with three and more side-by-side windows and all sorts of clicks ruler
> mode can handle and possibly post a corresponding patch?
>

Hi, here's my tentative patches. I checked out from
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git, last
commit was 6449128a5ab4a47a281de6117b86661dcc05b599, and
made two patches.

  First patch applies the changes that we supposed could
solve the problem of the wrong offset.

[0001-lisp-ruler-mode.el-correct-offset-of-set-margin-and-.patch (text/x-patch, inline)]
From 88a4f9fb9d2eace74a737205a26b26f35cb21cf6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Andrea Rossetti <andrear1979 <at> hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:26:49 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] lisp/ruler-mode.el: correct offset of "set margin" and
 "drag column" mouse operations

---
 lisp/ruler-mode.el | 5 ++---
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ruler-mode.el b/lisp/ruler-mode.el
index 9e32a2f..238754e 100644
--- a/lisp/ruler-mode.el
+++ b/lisp/ruler-mode.el
@@ -306,7 +306,6 @@ or remove a tab stop.  \\[ruler-mode-toggle-show-tab-stops] or
   "Return a column number relative to the selected window.
 N is a column number relative to selected frame."
   (- n
-     (car (window-edges))
      (or (car (window-margins)) 0)
      (fringe-columns 'left)
      (scroll-bar-columns 'left)))
@@ -321,7 +320,7 @@ START-EVENT is the mouse click event."
     (when (eq start end) ;; mouse click
       (save-selected-window
         (select-window (posn-window start))
-        (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start)) (car (window-edges))
+        (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start))
                      (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
               w   (- (ruler-mode-full-window-width)
                      (scroll-bar-columns 'left)
@@ -343,7 +342,7 @@ START-EVENT is the mouse click event."
     (when (eq start end) ;; mouse click
       (save-selected-window
         (select-window (posn-window start))
-        (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start)) (car (window-edges))
+        (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start))
                      (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
               w   (- (ruler-mode-full-window-width)
                      (scroll-bar-columns 'left)
-- 
1.8.1.msysgit.1

[Message part 3 (text/plain, inline)]
 I tested patch1 somewhat randomly, opening 4/5 windows horizontally,
1/2 windows vertically, and did also some attempt splitting windows
in two frames. Played also a bit on the text-only Emacs (using MSYS shell).

  Everything worked fine with patch1, except for an unexpected small
and non-blocking issue (let's call it "diagonal-drag" issue) that
can be reproduced as follows:

- C-x 3 M-x ruler-mode (you should see two windows with ruler)
- click S-<mouse-1> on the ruler of the rightmost window, this will set
  a left margin, choose a width of around 10~20 chars
- drag "diagonally" a column, for example moving down-left the
  fill-column, until the cursor goes a few pixels below the ruler area
- you will see that the dragged column will "jump" innaturally to the
  left of around 10~20 chars

  Tentative diagnosys: function `ruler-mode-window-col' returns a
different column value depending if you are inside or outside the 
ruler area. The actual problem is probably inherited from `posn-col-row',
but I could not clarify any better.

  I wrote patch 2, that worked for me to solve the "diagonal-drag" issue.

[0002-lisp-ruler-mode.el-fix-offset-for-mouse-dragging-bey.patch (text/x-patch, inline)]
From e521c93c296377d1733e8801832f3066e4cc4ede Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Andrea Rossetti <andrear1979 <at> hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:32:03 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] lisp/ruler-mode.el: fix offset for mouse dragging beyond
 header line

---
 lisp/ruler-mode.el | 23 ++++++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ruler-mode.el b/lisp/ruler-mode.el
index 238754e..097a13e 100644
--- a/lisp/ruler-mode.el
+++ b/lisp/ruler-mode.el
@@ -302,12 +302,17 @@ or remove a tab stop.  \\[ruler-mode-toggle-show-tab-stops] or
   (let ((edges (window-edges)))
     (- (nth 2 edges) (nth 0 edges))))
 
-(defsubst ruler-mode-window-col (n)
+(defsubst ruler-mode-window-col (start-or-end-event)
   "Return a column number relative to the selected window.
-N is a column number relative to selected frame."
-  (- n
-     (or (car (window-margins)) 0)
-     (fringe-columns 'left)
+START-OR-END-EVENT is the start point or end point
+of a mouse click or mouse drag event.
+
+See also: `event-start', `event-end', `posn-col-row', `posn-area'.
+"
+  (- (car (posn-col-row start-or-end-event))
+     (if (eq (posn-area start) 'header-line)
+         (+ (or (car (window-margins)) 0) (fringe-columns 'left))
+       0)
      (scroll-bar-columns 'left)))
 
 (defun ruler-mode-mouse-set-left-margin (start-event)
@@ -371,7 +376,7 @@ dragging.  See also the variable `ruler-mode-dragged-symbol'."
          col newc oldc)
     (save-selected-window
       (select-window (posn-window start))
-      (setq col  (ruler-mode-window-col (car (posn-col-row start)))
+      (setq col  (ruler-mode-window-col start)
             newc (+ col (window-hscroll)))
       (and
        (>= col 0) (< col (window-width))
@@ -454,7 +459,7 @@ Called on each mouse motion event START-EVENT."
          col newc)
     (save-selected-window
       (select-window (posn-window start))
-      (setq col  (ruler-mode-window-col (car (posn-col-row end)))
+      (setq col  (ruler-mode-window-col end)
             newc (+ col (window-hscroll)))
       (when (and (>= col 0) (< col (window-width)))
         (set ruler-mode-dragged-symbol newc)))))
@@ -470,7 +475,7 @@ START-EVENT is the mouse click event."
       (when (eq start end) ;; mouse click
         (save-selected-window
           (select-window (posn-window start))
-          (setq col (ruler-mode-window-col (car (posn-col-row start)))
+          (setq col (ruler-mode-window-col start)
                 ts  (+ col (window-hscroll)))
           (and (>= col 0) (< col (window-width))
                (not (member ts tab-stop-list))
@@ -490,7 +495,7 @@ START-EVENT is the mouse click event."
       (when (eq start end) ;; mouse click
         (save-selected-window
           (select-window (posn-window start))
-          (setq col (ruler-mode-window-col (car (posn-col-row start)))
+          (setq col (ruler-mode-window-col start)
                 ts  (+ col (window-hscroll)))
           (and (>= col 0) (< col (window-width))
                (member ts tab-stop-list)
-- 
1.8.1.msysgit.1

[Message part 5 (text/plain, inline)]
  And finally: I noticed another independent bug ("text-scale issue"),
i.e. most ruler's mouse operation have wrong offset if you adjust
text scale (C-x C-+).

  If anyone reading is interested to help, here's a proposed action plan:

- may you please try to play with patch1, and give advice if it could be
  acceptable for a commit 

- I guess that patch2 is unacceptable (BTW it changes the definition of
  ruler-mode-window-col, I assumed that ruler-mode.el is the only
  program calling it) but it's the best I could squeeze out of my head...
  any help or constructive criticism is welcome :)

- be aware of the "text-scale" issue but don't test for it; it seems
  a totally independent issue so I'd rather send another bug report for it

  Thanks for your attention, kindest regards.

  Andrea

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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com, 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:09:26 +0200
> How else can column and row be measured, except from the window edge?

From the left upper edge of the frame, just as the x-y-coordinates.  At
least that's apparently what the author of ruler mode thought.  And if
you compare it with the description of `posn-actual-col-row', such
interpretation sounds quite reasonable to me.  What is the difference
between `posn-col-row' and `posn-actual-col-row' for a position within
the text area of a window?  If there's none, then why does the latter
explicitly talk about windows and the former not?  If there's one, what
is it?

>> Could someone look into the doc-string and info entry of `posn-col-row'
>> and maybe improve them to avoid such confusion.
>
> I don't understand the confusion, but I went out and made it more
> clear anyway (r117242 on the emacs-24 branch).

Thank you.  But IIUC the reference to "window edge" is still missing
from the manual entry.  Someone who reads "given in units of the frame's
default character width and default line height" might still conclude
that we count from the frame edge.  The only implict reference to
"window" comes from the term "text area" and I'm not sure how familiar
people are with that and whether they connect it to windows at all.

>> For example:
>>
>>        This function returns a cons cell `(COL .  ROW)', containing the
>>        estimated column and row corresponding to buffer position
>>
>> ... what does "buffer position" mean here ...
>
> The meaning of the word "position" is overloaded here: the POSITION
> argument of the function includes a reference to a buffer position.  A
> better way to say that is "... corresponding to the buffer position
> given by POSITION."
>
>>        Note that ROW is counted from the top of the text area.  If the
>>        window
>>
>> ... which window is meant here ...
>
> The window given by POSITION, of course.  Perhaps you misremember that
> the POSITION argument is a complex data structure, not just a number.
> It includes a reference to the window where the event took place.

I know.  But the phrase "corresponding to buffer position POSITION" was
surely misleading.  And do we even care about "buffer positions" here?
I doubt that.  All we do is returning coordinates in terms of frame
lines and columns (as opposed to coordinates in terms of pixels as
returned by `posn-x-y').

>>        possesses a header line (*note Header Lines::), it is _not_
>>        counted as the first line.
>>
>> ... this sounds obvious but what ´does "not counting" stand for?
>
> It stands for "not counting".  IOW, the header line is not included in
> the row count, and the first text line is still row number zero, not
> number 1.

Earlier we say "Row 0 is taken to be the header line if the window has
one, or the topmost row of the text area otherwise." which I would
interpret as "The header line, if present, is counted as line 0.  If no
header line is present the first text line is counted as line 0.", that
is, the header line _is_ counted.  I'm too silly to grok that.

>>   > into
>>   >
>>   > (setq col (- (car (posn-col-row start))
>>   >                       (scroll-bar-columns 'left))
>>   > ...
>>
>> This sounds like the correct solution to me.
>
> In general, one should stay away of columns when dealing with
> coordinates, since columns are measured in logical order, i.e. in a
> R2L line they are measured from the right edge of the window.  But
> since in this case columns are just x coordinates measured in other
> units (and therefore calling them "columns" is a misnomer), I think
> it's OK in this case.

This means that we shouldn't provide `posn-col-row' in the first place
which I'd consider the best solution.  In any case, ruler mode deals
with columns, so it has to either access them somehow or provide an
abstraction based on pixel values.

martin





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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:09:50 +0200
>    First patch applies the changes that we supposed could
> solve the problem of the wrong offset.

Thanks.  I'll apply it as soon as I can build again here.

>   I tested patch1 somewhat randomly, opening 4/5 windows horizontally,
> 1/2 windows vertically, and did also some attempt splitting windows
> in two frames. Played also a bit on the text-only Emacs (using MSYS shell).
>
>    Everything worked fine with patch1, except for an unexpected small
> and non-blocking issue (let's call it "diagonal-drag" issue) that
> can be reproduced as follows:
>
> - C-x 3 M-x ruler-mode (you should see two windows with ruler)
> - click S-<mouse-1> on the ruler of the rightmost window, this will set
>    a left margin, choose a width of around 10~20 chars
> - drag "diagonally" a column, for example moving down-left the
>    fill-column, until the cursor goes a few pixels below the ruler area

How do I drag a column?  What is "moving down-left"?  Can you explain in
terms of keystrokes or mouse clicks?

> - you will see that the dragged column will "jump" innaturally to the
>    left of around 10~20 chars
>
>    Tentative diagnosys: function `ruler-mode-window-col' returns a
> different column value depending if you are inside or outside the
> ruler area. The actual problem is probably inherited from `posn-col-row',
> but I could not clarify any better.

It seems so (from reading the doc-string of `ruler-mode-window-col').
But I would like to reproduce the problem first.  Please advice.

>    And finally: I noticed another independent bug ("text-scale issue"),
> i.e. most ruler's mouse operation have wrong offset if you adjust
> text scale (C-x C-+).

This should be definitively corrected (as well as other text scale
related issues happening, for example, when splitting windows).

>    If anyone reading is interested to help, here's a proposed action plan:
>
> - may you please try to play with patch1, and give advice if it could be
>    acceptable for a commit

I only need advice from Stefan whether to install it in the branch or on
trunk.

> - I guess that patch2 is unacceptable (BTW it changes the definition of
>    ruler-mode-window-col, I assumed that ruler-mode.el is the only
>    program calling it) but it's the best I could squeeze out of my head...
>    any help or constructive criticism is welcome :)

The premise of `ruler-mode-window-col' seems wrong so we have to do
something about it.

> - be aware of the "text-scale" issue but don't test for it; it seems
>    a totally independent issue so I'd rather send another bug report for it

Please do that.

Thanks, martin




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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com, 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 19:17:54 +0300
> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:09:26 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> CC: andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com, 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > How else can column and row be measured, except from the window edge?
> 
>  From the left upper edge of the frame, just as the x-y-coordinates.

A column is fundamentally window-related.  It's not a coordinate, it's
a place in the text, and frames don't display text.

> At least that's apparently what the author of ruler mode thought.

I'd prefer not to second-guess someone's misconceptions.

>  > I don't understand the confusion, but I went out and made it more
>  > clear anyway (r117242 on the emacs-24 branch).
> 
> Thank you.  But IIUC the reference to "window edge" is still missing
> from the manual entry.

The manual text explicitly talks about a column and row of text in a
window, so I think it's clear enough.

>  > In general, one should stay away of columns when dealing with
>  > coordinates, since columns are measured in logical order, i.e. in a
>  > R2L line they are measured from the right edge of the window.  But
>  > since in this case columns are just x coordinates measured in other
>  > units (and therefore calling them "columns" is a misnomer), I think
>  > it's OK in this case.
> 
> This means that we shouldn't provide `posn-col-row' in the first place
> which I'd consider the best solution.

I see no reason to delete well established APIs, just because Emacs
overgrew the time when they were named.




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From: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 20:06:28 +0200
martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> writes:
>> - drag "diagonally" a column, for example moving down-left the
>>    fill-column, until the cursor goes a few pixels below the ruler area
>
> How do I drag a column?  What is "moving down-left"?  Can you explain in
> terms of keystrokes or mouse clicks?
>

  Sincere apologies for having overloaded a bit too much this bug
report; I'm now getting a clearer picture:

  1) patch1 is intended to solve the problem described at top of this
    bug report

  2) while testing patch1, I noticed the "diagonal drag" issue; I thought
    it was due to patch1 but now I realize it's an independent and
    pre-existing problem

  3) while testing patch1+patch2, I noticed the "text scale" issue
    but did not try to solve it

  I think it's cleaner if you only consider patch1 and forget the rest
for now. I will open a ticket for 2) with a better explanation and
an independent patch, and a ticket for 3). Kindest regards,

    Andrea




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From: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 01:22:36 +0200
Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I will open a ticket for 2) with a better explanation and
> an independent patch...

  I submitted bug report #17788: "24.3; ruler-mode: column
indicators 'hop' left if you drag them diagonally", the
explanation should be somewhat less messy now :) Cheers,

  Andrea




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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:10:28 +0200
> - may you please try to play with patch1, and give advice if it could be
>    acceptable for a commit

This patch has been now applied to trunk.

Thanks, martin





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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Andrea Rossetti <andrea.rossetti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 17768 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:10:39 +0200
>> I will open a ticket for 2) with a better explanation and
>> an independent patch...
>
>    I submitted bug report #17788: "24.3; ruler-mode: column
> indicators 'hop' left if you drag them diagonally", the
> explanation should be somewhat less messy now :) Cheers,

Thanks.  I think you can close bug#17768 now.

martin






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Subject: Re: bug#17768: 24.3; problem with two ruler-mode windows
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:05:17 -0400
>> This means that we shouldn't provide `posn-col-row' in the first place
>> which I'd consider the best solution.
> I see no reason to delete well established APIs, just because Emacs
> overgrew the time when they were named.

We could consider obsoleting the function if we thing that its use is
either less convenient than alternatives, or tends to lead to bugs which
don't affect the alternative.

I don't know enough posn-col-row's uses to judge.


        Stefan




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