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24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval

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From: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza <at> udel.edu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:08:43 -0400

Reproducible on my system with tmux 1.9a:

1. emacs --daemon -Q
2. Start tmux in a term emulator and invoke `emacsclient -t` in
   the tmux window
3. Do `C-x 3` in the client
4. Split horizontally the tmux window into two panes: <prefix> "
5. Open a new emacsclient in the new pane, exit the client (^X^C),
   and close the new tmux pane (^D)
6. Interact with the first client.

Attaching with gdb the first time:

find_interval (tree=0xed9198, position=732) at intervals.c:681
681     in intervals.c
(gdb) s
683     in intervals.c
(gdb) s
701     in intervals.c
(gdb) s
681     in intervals.c
(gdb) s
683     in intervals.c
(gdb) s
701     in intervals.c

Otherwise, setting a breakpoint at find_interval and continuing,
`position` changes value but I always end up back at find_interval.



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Message #8 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza <at> udel.edu>
Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:42:25 +0300

> From: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza <at> udel.edu>
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:08:43 -0400
> 
> 1. emacs --daemon -Q
> 2. Start tmux in a term emulator and invoke `emacsclient -t` in
>    the tmux window
> 3. Do `C-x 3` in the client
> 4. Split horizontally the tmux window into two panes: <prefix> "
> 5. Open a new emacsclient in the new pane, exit the client (^X^C),
>    and close the new tmux pane (^D)
> 6. Interact with the first client.
> 
> Attaching with gdb the first time:
> 
> find_interval (tree=0xed9198, position=732) at intervals.c:681
> 681     in intervals.c
> (gdb) s
> 683     in intervals.c
> (gdb) s
> 701     in intervals.c
> (gdb) s
> 681     in intervals.c
> (gdb) s
> 683     in intervals.c
> (gdb) s
> 701     in intervals.c
> 
> Otherwise, setting a breakpoint at find_interval and continuing,
> `position` changes value but I always end up back at find_interval.

Thanks.

Please use the procedure in etc/DEBUG to find out where it loops.  The
procedure calls for using the "finish" command until some frame
doesn't return, then stepping with "next" through that frame to see
where and why it loops.

Message #11 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:55:11 +0300

> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:42:25 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Please use the procedure in etc/DEBUG to find out where it loops.  The
> procedure calls for using the "finish" command until some frame
> doesn't return, then stepping with "next" through that frame to see
> where and why it loops.

The loop is in redisplay, and the reason seems to be that get_tty_size
returns incorrect size after the second tmux pane is closed with ^D.
We get one line more than tmux leaves us (after usurping 1 line for
its status line).

I don't know enough about TIOCGWINSZ ioctl to tell how to fix this,
sorry.  Perhaps some termio expert could chime in.

Message #14 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:06:17 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I don't know enough about TIOCGWINSZ ioctl to tell how to fix this,
> sorry.  Perhaps some termio expert could chime in.

If TIOCGWINSZ disagrees with the actual size of the terminal then the
bug is in tmux in that it sets the wrong size.

Andreas.

-- 
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Message #17 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:15:58 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> The loop is in redisplay, and the reason seems to be that get_tty_size
> returns incorrect size after the second tmux pane is closed with ^D.
> We get one line more than tmux leaves us (after usurping 1 line for
> its status line).

Does get_tty_size actually look at the correct terminal (the one
connected to the tty frame)?

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #20 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:22:22 +0300

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
> Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu,  18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:15:58 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > The loop is in redisplay, and the reason seems to be that get_tty_size
> > returns incorrect size after the second tmux pane is closed with ^D.
> > We get one line more than tmux leaves us (after usurping 1 line for
> > its status line).
> 
> Does get_tty_size actually look at the correct terminal (the one
> connected to the tty frame)?

See handle_window_change_signal: we loop through all the tty's, and
call get_tty_size for each one of them.

If this doesn't answer the question, please tell how to check that the
terminal is the correct one, and I will take a look.

Thanks.

Message #23 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:04:47 +0300

> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:55:11 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> The loop is in redisplay, and the reason seems to be that get_tty_size
> returns incorrect size after the second tmux pane is closed with ^D.
> We get one line more than tmux leaves us (after usurping 1 line for
> its status line).

Actually, I think I was wrong (I forgot to count the line used for the
menu bar).  So the reason is probably elsewhere...

Message #26 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:17:53 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> The loop is in redisplay, and the reason seems to be that get_tty_size
> returns incorrect size after the second tmux pane is closed with ^D.

Does it?  I don't see that here.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #29 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:33:30 +0300

> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:04:47 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:55:11 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> > Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > The loop is in redisplay, and the reason seems to be that get_tty_size
> > returns incorrect size after the second tmux pane is closed with ^D.
> > We get one line more than tmux leaves us (after usurping 1 line for
> > its status line).
> 
> Actually, I think I was wrong (I forgot to count the line used for the
> menu bar).  So the reason is probably elsewhere...

Ok, my original analysis was based on a mistake.  Moreover, tmux is
not really related to the problem at all, and neither is "C-x 3".

Here's a simpler way to reproduce the problem:

Open a terminal emulator (e.g., xterm) window, and in that window:

  emacs -Q --daemon
  emacsclient -t

Now open another terminal emulator window, and make it have a smaller
size.  Then, in that window:

  emacsclient -t
  C-x C-c

Now go back to the first xterm window and resize it (e.g., with a
mouse).  Emacs is now stuck in an infloop.

So the important players here are (1) a frame on another tty that has
a different size, and (2) resizing the frame after deleting another
frame on a different tty.

Message #32 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:44:13 +0200

We never trigger redisplay after do_pending_window_change in
wait_reading_process_output.  Why?

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #35 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:07:34 +0300

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
> Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu,  18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:44:13 +0200
> 
> We never trigger redisplay after do_pending_window_change in
> wait_reading_process_output.  Why?

Probably because redisplay calls do_pending_window_change at its very
beginning.

I also don't see how would triggering redisplay earlier fix the
problem at hand.  Am I missing something?

Message #38 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:27:15 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
>> Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu,  18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:44:13 +0200
>> 
>> We never trigger redisplay after do_pending_window_change in
>> wait_reading_process_output.  Why?
>
> Probably because redisplay calls do_pending_window_change at its very
> beginning.

What does this have to do with the call in wait_reading_process_output?
Since it doesn't return until the next keypress we have a non-updated
display for a potentially long time.

> I also don't see how would triggering redisplay earlier fix the
> problem at hand.  Am I missing something?

It may be part of the problem, who knows.  You missed a lot in this
thread already, didn't you?

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #43 received at 18112-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
Cc: 18112-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:05:59 +0300

> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:33:30 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> So the important players here are (1) a frame on another tty that has
> a different size, and (2) resizing the frame after deleting another
> frame on a different tty.

Fixed in revision 117409 on the emacs-24 branch.

(It's amazing what one 99%-correct line of Lisp can do.)

Message #46 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eliz <at> gnu.org, mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:35:37 +0200

> (It's amazing what one 99%-correct line of Lisp can do.)

Indeed.  Thanks for fixing my 1% blindness.

martin

Message #49 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:55:23 +0300

> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:35:37 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> 
> > (It's amazing what one 99%-correct line of Lisp can do.)
> 
> Indeed.  Thanks for fixing my 1% blindness.

You're welcome.

As long as I have your attention: how about adding some comments
and/or text to respective doc strings to explain what exactly the
following functions do, and why/when are they needed?

  window-normal-size
  window-new-total
  window-new-normal
  window-new-pixel

and the corresponding set-* functions.  Their doc strings are just
tautological repetition of their names, which isn't helpful.  And the
ELisp manual doesn't say a word about them, so the doc strings need to
do a better job, IMO.

Message #52 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:15:15 +0200

> As long as I have your attention: how about adding some comments
> and/or text to respective doc strings to explain what exactly the
> following functions do, and why/when are they needed?
>
>    window-normal-size
>    window-new-total
>    window-new-normal
>    window-new-pixel
>
> and the corresponding set-* functions.  Their doc strings are just
> tautological repetition of their names, which isn't helpful.  And the
> ELisp manual doesn't say a word about them, so the doc strings need to
> do a better job, IMO.

I'll do that.

martin

Message #55 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:10:02 +0200

> As long as I have your attention: how about adding some comments
> and/or text to respective doc strings to explain what exactly the
> following functions do, and why/when are they needed?
>
>    window-normal-size
>    window-new-total
>    window-new-normal
>    window-new-pixel
>
> and the corresponding set-* functions.  Their doc strings are just
> tautological repetition of their names, which isn't helpful.  And the
> ELisp manual doesn't say a word about them, so the doc strings need to
> do a better job, IMO.

I've tried to do that now.  Please have a look.

Thanks, martin

Message #58 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:40:30 +0300

> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:10:02 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> CC: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
> 
>  > As long as I have your attention: how about adding some comments
>  > and/or text to respective doc strings to explain what exactly the
>  > following functions do, and why/when are they needed?
>  >
>  >    window-normal-size
>  >    window-new-total
>  >    window-new-normal
>  >    window-new-pixel
>  >
>  > and the corresponding set-* functions.  Their doc strings are just
>  > tautological repetition of their names, which isn't helpful.  And the
>  > ELisp manual doesn't say a word about them, so the doc strings need to
>  > do a better job, IMO.
> 
> I've tried to do that now.  Please have a look.

Thanks.  This is an improvement for the functions that deal with the
"normal" size (which should have been called "normalized", but I guess
that's water under the bridge now).

I see no improvement for the "total" size.  The additions to the doc
strings point to window-total-size, but that function's doc string
does not explain what is the semantics of "total" in this respect.
(The doc string of window-total-size references window-total-width and
window-total-height, which do say something about that, but having to
traverse more than 1 hyperlink to find the information is not a good
idea, IMO.)

Also, the way you document the *-new-* functions could be improved.
You say something like

  The new pixel size of WINDOW is used by `window-resize-apply' and, if
  that function succeeds, will be subsequently returned by the functions
  `window-pixel-height' and `window-pixel-width'.

I suggest instead to say something that describes the effect, but not
how the effect is achieved (which is low-level information that
obscures and obfuscates what the reader would like to know):

  The new pixel size of WINDOW, if it is valid, will be shortly
  installed as WINDOW's size.

Thanks.

Message #61 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:14:15 +0200

> I see no improvement for the "total" size.  The additions to the doc
> strings point to window-total-size, but that function's doc string
> does not explain what is the semantics of "total" in this respect.
> (The doc string of window-total-size references window-total-width and
> window-total-height, which do say something about that, but having to
> traverse more than 1 hyperlink to find the information is not a good
> idea, IMO.)
>
> Also, the way you document the *-new-* functions could be improved.
> You say something like
>
>    The new pixel size of WINDOW is used by `window-resize-apply' and, if
>    that function succeeds, will be subsequently returned by the functions
>    `window-pixel-height' and `window-pixel-width'.
>
> I suggest instead to say something that describes the effect, but not
> how the effect is achieved (which is low-level information that
> obscures and obfuscates what the reader would like to know):
>
>    The new pixel size of WINDOW, if it is valid, will be shortly
>    installed as WINDOW's size.

I've tried to follow your advices.  Please have another look.

Thanks, martin

Message #64 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:37:17 +0300

> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:14:15 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> CC: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
> 
>  > I see no improvement for the "total" size.  The additions to the doc
>  > strings point to window-total-size, but that function's doc string
>  > does not explain what is the semantics of "total" in this respect.
>  > (The doc string of window-total-size references window-total-width and
>  > window-total-height, which do say something about that, but having to
>  > traverse more than 1 hyperlink to find the information is not a good
>  > idea, IMO.)
>  >
>  > Also, the way you document the *-new-* functions could be improved.
>  > You say something like
>  >
>  >    The new pixel size of WINDOW is used by `window-resize-apply' and, if
>  >    that function succeeds, will be subsequently returned by the functions
>  >    `window-pixel-height' and `window-pixel-width'.
>  >
>  > I suggest instead to say something that describes the effect, but not
>  > how the effect is achieved (which is low-level information that
>  > obscures and obfuscates what the reader would like to know):
>  >
>  >    The new pixel size of WINDOW, if it is valid, will be shortly
>  >    installed as WINDOW's size.
> 
> I've tried to follow your advices.  Please have another look.

Thanks, the *-new-* functions are now clearly documented.

The issue with window-total-size is still there, though.

Message #67 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:56:56 +0200

> The issue with window-total-size is still there, though.

Which one?  Should I copy the descriptions from `window-total-height'
and `window-total-width' to the doc-string of `window-total-size'?

martin

Message #70 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:29:10 +0300

> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:56:56 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> CC: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
> 
>  > The issue with window-total-size is still there, though.
> 
> Which one?  Should I copy the descriptions from `window-total-height'
> and `window-total-width' to the doc-string of `window-total-size'?

I think just saying what "total" includes, and how it differs from
the corresponding non-"total" dimensions, should be good enough.

Message #73 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:42:08 +0200

> I think just saying what "total" includes, and how it differs from
> the corresponding non-"total" dimensions, should be good enough.

I tried to do that.

Thanks, martin

Message #76 received at 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: mvoteiza <at> udel.edu, 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18112: 24.4.50; emacs --daemon infinite loop in find_interval
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:04:37 +0300

> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:42:08 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
> CC: 18112 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mvoteiza <at> udel.edu
> 
> > I think just saying what "total" includes, and how it differs from
> > the corresponding non-"total" dimensions, should be good enough.
> 
> I tried to do that.

Thanks, I'm happy now.

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