GNU bug report logs - #18757
24.4; Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:53:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 24.4

Done: "Jan D." <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>

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From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.4; Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:42:08 -0700
Since upgrading to OS X 10.10 (Yosemite), I have been been experiencing
intermittent screen flickering problems with Cocoa Emacs 24.4
pre-test/RC1 (the issue did not occur in OS X 10.9 to my knowledge). In
general, the screen flickers in the top middle portion when switching
between windows or when switching buffers in a window (a video of the
issue can be found at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9orcw95yru4p7jy/emacs-bug.mov?dl=0 ). I was
able to reproduce using emacs -Q in a cocoa window; I don't have exact
reproduction steps, since the bug seems quite non-deterministic, but
with a combination of screen splitting, switching to full screen
(although it is visible in non-full-screen mode as well), filling a
buffer with text (to make the flicker more visible), and switching
windows, the flicker becomes apparent.



In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0, NS apple-appkit-1343.14)
 of 2014-10-17 on WorkBook-Pro.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1343
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From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:33:26 -0700
Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Since upgrading to OS X 10.10 (Yosemite), I have been been experiencing
> intermittent screen flickering problems with Cocoa Emacs 24.4
> pre-test/RC1 (the issue did not occur in OS X 10.9 to my knowledge). In
> general, the screen flickers in the top middle portion when switching
> between windows or when switching buffers in a window (a video of the
> issue can be found at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9orcw95yru4p7jy/emacs-bug.mov?dl=0 ). I was
> able to reproduce using emacs -Q in a cocoa window; I don't have exact
> reproduction steps, since the bug seems quite non-deterministic, but
> with a combination of screen splitting, switching to full screen
> (although it is visible in non-full-screen mode as well), filling a
> buffer with text (to make the flicker more visible), and switching
> windows, the flicker becomes apparent.
>

Quick follow-up: this bug does *not* appear in Emacs 24.3 on OS X 10.10.





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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:51:13 +0300
> From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:33:26 -0700
> 
> Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Since upgrading to OS X 10.10 (Yosemite), I have been been experiencing
> > intermittent screen flickering problems with Cocoa Emacs 24.4
> > pre-test/RC1 (the issue did not occur in OS X 10.9 to my knowledge). In
> > general, the screen flickers in the top middle portion when switching
> > between windows or when switching buffers in a window (a video of the
> > issue can be found at
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/9orcw95yru4p7jy/emacs-bug.mov?dl=0 ). I was
> > able to reproduce using emacs -Q in a cocoa window; I don't have exact
> > reproduction steps, since the bug seems quite non-deterministic, but
> > with a combination of screen splitting, switching to full screen
> > (although it is visible in non-full-screen mode as well), filling a
> > buffer with text (to make the flicker more visible), and switching
> > windows, the flicker becomes apparent.
> >
> 
> Quick follow-up: this bug does *not* appear in Emacs 24.3 on OS X 10.10.

Once the flicker starts, does it stop on its own, or does it continue
indefinitely?




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From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:02:01 -0700
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Once the flicker starts, does it stop on its own, or does it continue
> indefinitely?

It flickers once per window/buffer switch (it doesn't flicker when
typing within a buffer), and it continues indefinitely.





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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>, jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:27:40 +0300
> From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:02:01 -0700
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Once the flicker starts, does it stop on its own, or does it continue
> > indefinitely?
> 
> It flickers once per window/buffer switch (it doesn't flicker when
> typing within a buffer), and it continues indefinitely.

And you are saying that the same pretest didn't exhibit such behavior
on the older OS version?  In that case, I guess there's some X event
that the new OS sends to Emacs that causes these redraws.  Perhaps Jan
could chime in and suggest some way of investigating this.




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From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:15:40 -0700
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> And you are saying that the same pretest didn't exhibit such behavior
> on the older OS version?  In that case, I guess there's some X event
> that the new OS sends to Emacs that causes these redraws.  Perhaps Jan
> could chime in and suggest some way of investigating this.

Yes, that's correct--it happens with 24.4 RC1 (and an older pretest) on
OS X 10.10, but not on OS X 10.9, and it also doesn't happen with 24.3
on OS X 10.10. (I've only seen the issue with Cocoa; it doesn't appear
to happen running in terminal mode.)





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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:19:33 -0400
FWIW this is the only report (so far) that makes me go "uh oh" for 24.4.
It's unfortunate OS X 10.10 was just released a few days ago.

It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
general issue.




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From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:23:44 +0200
Hi.

> 18 okt 2014 kl. 20:19 skrev Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>:
> 
> 
> FWIW this is the only report (so far) that makes me go "uh oh" for 24.4.
> It's unfortunate OS X 10.10 was just released a few days ago.
> 
> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
> general issue.

I haven't seen it, but have only run 10.10 for a couple of days.

	Jan D.





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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:36:28 -0400
Jan Djärv wrote:

>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>> general issue.
>
> I haven't seen it, but have only run 10.10 for a couple of days.

Would you like the release to wait a few days so this can be
investigated further?




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From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4; Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading
 to OS X 10.10
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:57:08 +0200
Hi.

Den 2014-10-19 19:36, Glenn Morris skrev:
> Jan Djärv wrote:
>
>>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>>> general issue.
>>
>> I haven't seen it, but have only run 10.10 for a couple of days.
>
> Would you like the release to wait a few days so this can be
> investigated further?

If you can give me a day, that would be great.  If I haven't come back on this 
by then, then I think you should do the release.

	Jan D.






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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 01:36:05 -0400
Jan Djärv wrote:

> If you can give me a day, that would be great.  If I haven't come back
> on this by then, then I think you should do the release.

Sounds fine to me.
Maybe reply back here either way after that day.




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From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:05:29 +0200
Hi.

> 20 okt 2014 kl. 07:36 skrev Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>:
> 
> Jan Djärv wrote:
> 
>> If you can give me a day, that would be great.  If I haven't come back
>> on this by then, then I think you should do the release.
> 
> Sounds fine to me.
> Maybe reply back here either way after that day.

I can't repeate it.  Maybe hardware related?

	Jan D.






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From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:05:13 -0700
Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> writes:

>
> I can't repeate it.  Maybe hardware related?
>

Thanks so much for looking into this! If it's at all helpful, I've found
a way to consistently reproduce it on my computer from a fresh build
with Emacs -Q (starting in a scratch buffer):

1. M-x toggle-frame-fullscreen
2. C-x 3
3. C-x o
4. C-x b <return>
5. Flicker occurs on C-x o each time

I'm testing on a mid-2012 MacBook Pro with an Intel HD Graphics 4000
GPU. I'll try upgrading a different computer as well and see if it shows
up there. Here's the output from M-x report-emacs-bug after reproducing:

In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0, NS apple-appkit-1343.14)
 of 2014-10-20 on WorkBook-Pro.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1343
Configured using:
 `configure --with-ns'

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Messages

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
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  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x t o g g l <tab> f r a <tab> f u <tab> <return>
C-x 3 C-x o C-x b <return> C-x o C-x o C-x o C-x o
M-x r e p r o t <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
o r <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
You can run the command `toggle-frame-fullscreen' with <f11>

Load-path shadows:
None found.

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From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:13:10 +0200
Hello.

> 20 okt 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> writes:
> 
>> 
>> I can't repeate it.  Maybe hardware related?
>> 
> 
> Thanks so much for looking into this! If it's at all helpful, I've found
> a way to consistently reproduce it on my computer from a fresh build
> with Emacs -Q (starting in a scratch buffer):
> 
> 1. M-x toggle-frame-fullscreen
> 2. C-x 3
> 3. C-x o
> 4. C-x b <return>
> 5. Flicker occurs on C-x o each time

I can see a bit of flicker in the top line, but is just flickers once, not repeatedly.
It seems to be related to scrollbars.  If I disable scroll bars, the flicker does not happen.
Do you see that?

	Jan D.





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From: Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:24:45 -0700
Just confirmed that disabling the scroll bar makes it go away. The flicker is
pretty hard to see with the default theme; it looks much worse with
high-contrast themes. It's always just one flicker per window switch--is that
you're seeing?

Thanks again for looking at this!

Emanuel

Jan Djärv writes:

> Hello.
>
>> 20 okt 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>:
>>
>> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> I can't repeate it.  Maybe hardware related?
>>>
>>
>> Thanks so much for looking into this! If it's at all helpful, I've found
>> a way to consistently reproduce it on my computer from a fresh build
>> with Emacs -Q (starting in a scratch buffer):
>>
>> 1. M-x toggle-frame-fullscreen
>> 2. C-x 3
>> 3. C-x o
>> 4. C-x b <return>
>> 5. Flicker occurs on C-x o each time
>
> I can see a bit of flicker in the top line, but is just flickers once, not repeatedly.
> It seems to be related to scrollbars.  If I disable scroll bars, the flicker does not happen.
> Do you see that?
>
> 	Jan D.




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From: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
To: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4; Intermittent screen flicker since
 upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:01:15 -0700
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> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
> general issue.

I've been seeing this for a while now, but I didn't correlate it with
10.10. I've been running 10.10 since the betas along with the Emacs
pretests (and now the 24.4 release).

For me, the glitch happens on "C-x b" but not on "C-x o". But it looks
just like the movie, with a narrow vertical flash in middle area of the
window.

-David

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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Cc: 18757-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:41:26 +0100
This has been fixed in the 24-branch.

	Jan D.

> 28 okt 2014 kl. 05:01 skrev David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>:
> 
>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>> general issue.
> 
> I've been seeing this for a while now, but I didn't correlate it with
> 10.10. I've been running 10.10 since the betas along with the Emacs
> pretests (and now the 24.4 release).
> 
> For me, the glitch happens on "C-x b" but not on "C-x o". But it looks
> just like the movie, with a narrow vertical flash in middle area of the
> window.
> 
> -David
> 





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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Cc: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:48:11 +0100
reopen 18757
quit

Seems I spoke too soon, reopening.

	Jan D.

> 8 nov 2014 kl. 20:41 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
> 
> This has been fixed in the 24-branch.
> 
> 	Jan D.
> 
>> 28 okt 2014 kl. 05:01 skrev David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>:
>> 
>>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>>> general issue.
>> 
>> I've been seeing this for a while now, but I didn't correlate it with
>> 10.10. I've been running 10.10 since the betas along with the Emacs
>> pretests (and now the 24.4 release).
>> 
>> For me, the glitch happens on "C-x b" but not on "C-x o". But it looks
>> just like the movie, with a narrow vertical flash in middle area of the
>> window.
>> 
>> -David
>> 
> 





Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 09 Nov 2014 10:49:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Cc: 18757-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:50:10 +0100
A better fix has been checked in.

	Jan D.

> 9 nov 2014 kl. 11:48 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
> 
> reopen 18757
> quit
> 
> Seems I spoke too soon, reopening.
> 
> 	Jan D.
> 
>> 8 nov 2014 kl. 20:41 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
>> 
>> This has been fixed in the 24-branch.
>> 
>> 	Jan D.
>> 
>>> 28 okt 2014 kl. 05:01 skrev David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>:
>>> 
>>>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>>>> general issue.
>>> 
>>> I've been seeing this for a while now, but I didn't correlate it with
>>> 10.10. I've been running 10.10 since the betas along with the Emacs
>>> pretests (and now the 24.4 release).
>>> 
>>> For me, the glitch happens on "C-x b" but not on "C-x o". But it looks
>>> just like the movie, with a narrow vertical flash in middle area of the
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> -David
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 





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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Cc: 18757 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:33:15 +0100
reopen 18757
quit

Crap, saw it again, reopening.

	Jan D.

> 9 nov 2014 kl. 14:50 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
> 
> A better fix has been checked in.
> 
> 	Jan D.
> 
>> 9 nov 2014 kl. 11:48 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
>> 
>> reopen 18757
>> quit
>> 
>> Seems I spoke too soon, reopening.
>> 
>> 	Jan D.
>> 
>>> 8 nov 2014 kl. 20:41 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
>>> 
>>> This has been fixed in the 24-branch.
>>> 
>>> 	Jan D.
>>> 
>>>> 28 okt 2014 kl. 05:01 skrev David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>:
>>>> 
>>>>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>>>>> general issue.
>>>> 
>>>> I've been seeing this for a while now, but I didn't correlate it with
>>>> 10.10. I've been running 10.10 since the betas along with the Emacs
>>>> pretests (and now the 24.4 release).
>>>> 
>>>> For me, the glitch happens on "C-x b" but not on "C-x o". But it looks
>>>> just like the movie, with a narrow vertical flash in middle area of the
>>>> window.
>>>> 
>>>> -David
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 





Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:57:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Notification sent to Emanuel Evans <emanuel.evans <at> gmail.com>:
bug acknowledged by developer. (Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:43:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Cc: 18757-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18757: 24.4;
 Intermittent screen flicker since upgrading to OS X 10.10
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:42:43 +0100
New fix, closing again.  Third time lucky?

	Jan D.

> 11 nov 2014 kl. 20:33 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
> 
> reopen 18757
> quit
> 
> Crap, saw it again, reopening.
> 
> 	Jan D.
> 
>> 9 nov 2014 kl. 14:50 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
>> 
>> A better fix has been checked in.
>> 
>> 	Jan D.
>> 
>>> 9 nov 2014 kl. 11:48 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
>>> 
>>> reopen 18757
>>> quit
>>> 
>>> Seems I spoke too soon, reopening.
>>> 
>>> 	Jan D.
>>> 
>>>> 8 nov 2014 kl. 20:41 skrev Jan D. <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>:
>>>> 
>>>> This has been fixed in the 24-branch.
>>>> 
>>>> 	Jan D.
>>>> 
>>>>> 28 okt 2014 kl. 05:01 skrev David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be good to hear from other users of 10.10 whether this is a
>>>>>> general issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been seeing this for a while now, but I didn't correlate it with
>>>>> 10.10. I've been running 10.10 since the betas along with the Emacs
>>>>> pretests (and now the 24.4 release).
>>>>> 
>>>>> For me, the glitch happens on "C-x b" but not on "C-x o". But it looks
>>>>> just like the movie, with a narrow vertical flash in middle area of the
>>>>> window.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -David
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 





bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:24:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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