Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 17:03:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 12:03:55 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WCuGw-0002aH-UB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:55 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48470 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1WCuGt-0002a3-86 for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:51 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1WCuGq-0006h3-VV; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:49 -0500 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> <87ppmxexws.fsf@HIDDEN> <83txc8uv1k.fsf@HIDDEN> <t5fvns2hic.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wqh3wc5o.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: cybercash Skipjack Defcon diwn Chobetsu pipeline virus X-Ran: 8Rgo`TMs[AOPg92SVwtaig361DidKw8'Q.f|'h@(V1ArtI7zN/xfp9OamGhz&it&mX@eoB X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87wqh3wc5o.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:27:15 -0800") Message-ID: <wqk3d2vr0r.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> The right thing is "emacs,w32" (I did that just now), but I suggest not >> bothering with that either, since it just makes merging harder, for no >> real gain. > > I keep forgetting. Perhaps debbugs-gnu should do that automatically? Don't know what you mean. Just forget w32 ever existed as a package is my advice. >> PS If you are _really_ bored, TRT IMO is to get rid of the w32 and ns >> packages entirely (for all open bugs), and convert them to usertags for >> the "emacs" user instead. I did that.
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Full text available.Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 09:28:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 04:28:47 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WCnAU-0003Mi-OI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:28:47 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45043) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1WCnAS-0003MZ-1A for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:28:45 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1WCnAD-0003vS-7A; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:28:29 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> <87ppmxexws.fsf@HIDDEN> <83txc8uv1k.fsf@HIDDEN> <t5fvns2hic.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:27:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: <t5fvns2hic.fsf@HIDDEN> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:49:47 -0500") Message-ID: <87wqh3wc5o.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCnAD-0003vS-7A X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@HIDDEN MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392629309.65034@cjIQX81QIKk3vT8uziP3dw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> writes: > The right thing is "emacs,w32" (I did that just now), but I suggest not > bothering with that either, since it just makes merging harder, for no > real gain. I keep forgetting. Perhaps debbugs-gnu should do that automatically? > PS If you are _really_ bored, TRT IMO is to get rid of the w32 and ns > packages entirely (for all open bugs), and convert them to usertags for > the "emacs" user instead. Uhm... I don't know what usertags are. >"? Anyway, I think my cold is waning, so my rampage through the bug reports should be tapering off. I hope people haven't been unduly bored by all the emails on this mailing list the past few days. 1964 open non-wishlist bugs remain if anybody is inspired. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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Full text available.Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 19:49:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 14:49:52 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WCaNz-00019h-VT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:49:52 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:58375) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1WCaNy-00019Y-2e for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:49:50 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1WCaNv-0004wd-TM; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:49:47 -0500 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> <87ppmxexws.fsf@HIDDEN> <83txc8uv1k.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: arrangements Honduras gamma Khaddafi UNSCOM government X-Ran: 8}Q%GSOul:lZSvom>a$}C%0;ROO:)EI!!WIO'_O4P@m#jn[zR`)gcFC5=r0">/_V]/Gu?? X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:49:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83txc8uv1k.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:09:59 +0200") Message-ID: <t5fvns2hic.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Please don't assign things to the "w32" package. In technical terms, it is a pseudo-package with no maintainer. So all subsequent mails will go to the help-debbugs list rather than bug-gnu-emacs. The right thing is "emacs,w32" (I did that just now), but I suggest not bothering with that either, since it just makes merging harder, for no real gain.
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Full text available.Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 16:10:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 11:10:32 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60673 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WCWxf-0003sX-Lb for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:10:31 -0500 Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:44526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1WCWxW-0003sH-MZ for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:10:23 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0Q00O00KSV8B00@HIDDEN> for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:09:25 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0Q00NS3KVPZ600@HIDDEN>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:09:25 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:09:59 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. In-reply-to: <87ppmxexws.fsf@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Message-id: <83txc8uv1k.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> <87ppmxexws.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:02:27 -0800 > Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > > > I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my report. > > > > It is normal for `dired-do-chown' and `dired-do-chgrp' not to be on the menu for > > MS Windows. The bug is that `C-h w' says they are on the menu. > > > > It would probably be more normal for those commands not simply to be defined and > > raise an error on Windows, but to simply not be defined for Windows. That way, > > there would be no disconnect between the key bindings and the menu (and C-h w). > > Aha -- a W32-specific bug? Is this still present on the trunk? No, it's not a Windows-specific bug. And yes, it's still present. The bug is that any menu item that has a visibility spec is mentioned as a binding by "C-h w" even if the visibility spec currently mandates that the item be removed from the menu. There's nothing Windows-specific here. In this particular case, the visibility spec says that the menu item for chown should not be displayed on MS-Windows and MS-DOS, but that's just one instance of a more general issue.
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Full text available.Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 04:03:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 23:03:56 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58749 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WCLcZ-00080s-R0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:03:56 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34301) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1WCLcY-00080l-0W for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:03:54 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1WCLcK-00050G-21; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:03:40 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:02:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:05:21 -0700") Message-ID: <87ppmxexws.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCLcK-00050G-21 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@HIDDEN MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392523420.54476@MSavYJBrm1JFY9+nTLV0Ng X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my report. > > It is normal for `dired-do-chown' and `dired-do-chgrp' not to be on the menu for > MS Windows. The bug is that `C-h w' says they are on the menu. > > It would probably be more normal for those commands not simply to be defined and > raise an error on Windows, but to simply not be defined for Windows. That way, > there would be no disconnect between the key bindings and the menu (and C-h w). Aha -- a W32-specific bug? Is this still present on the trunk? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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Full text available.Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 04:03:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 23:03:15 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58746 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1WCLbv-0007zy-Ce for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:03:15 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1WCLbt-0007zq-EX for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:03:13 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1WCLbf-0004zT-8E; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:02:59 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:01:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 27 May 2012 10:09:53 -0700") Message-ID: <87txc9exxv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCLbf-0004zT-8E X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@HIDDEN MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392523379.74214@hCdr2pSFGFmndtNIwayPHQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 Cc: 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > 1. `C-h w' does not tell the truth. > > emacs -Q > C-x d RET > C-h w dired-do-chown > > It says: > dired-do-chown is on O, <menu-bar> <operate> <chown> > > But it is not on the `Operate' menu at all. Note that `O' works. It is > only the menu item that is missing. > > 2. Even after dired-aux is loaded, the menu is not updated to > include `dired-do-chown'. This is the case whether you use > `C-x v RET' or you open a completely new dired directory. Works for me on the trunk... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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Full text available.Received: (at 11568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2012 21:07:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 05 17:07:40 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Sc0ya-0006vU-5w for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:07:40 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:35426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Sc0yY-0006vH-Me for 11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:07:39 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q55L5Rqt021946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:05:28 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q55L5Rx6000087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:05:27 GMT Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q55L5QOG016541 for <11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:05:26 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.66.222) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:05:26 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: <11568 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> References: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong. Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:05:21 -0700 Message-ID: <E27D181E14764F8F9F1FE6342F358AA6@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> Thread-Index: Ac08K4hy746bVrA0ShOAcIrV9IpdPwHMu6Fw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11568 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my report. It is normal for `dired-do-chown' and `dired-do-chgrp' not to be on the menu for MS Windows. The bug is that `C-h w' says they are on the menu. It would probably be more normal for those commands not simply to be defined and raise an error on Windows, but to simply not be defined for Windows. That way, there would be no disconnect between the key bindings and the menu (and C-h w). And there would be no users trying to call a command that just raises an error saying that the command is not available. Thx.
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Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:09:53 -0700 Message-ID: <45AFC92F61784AAF9C4844065BC184D7@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac08K4hy746bVrA0ShOAcIrV9IpdPw== X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) 1. `C-h w' does not tell the truth. emacs -Q C-x d RET C-h w dired-do-chown It says: dired-do-chown is on O, <menu-bar> <operate> <chown> But it is not on the `Operate' menu at all. Note that `O' works. It is only the menu item that is missing. 2. Even after dired-aux is loaded, the menu is not updated to include `dired-do-chown'. This is the case whether you use `C-x v RET' or you open a completely new dired directory. 3. The same things are true for `dired-do-chgrp'. But they are not true for `dired-do-touch'. And even after `emacs -Q', when dired-aux has not been loaded, `dired-do-touch' shows in the menu (as it should, because it is autoloaded). In sum, `dired-do-touch' and `dired-do-chmod' are correctly in the menu, but `dired-do-chgrp' and `dired-do-chown' are missing. In GNU Emacs 24.0.97.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-05-16 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include'
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