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Full text available.Received: (at 13624) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2013 12:58:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 04 07:58:52 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1U2LdL-0003xn-UI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 07:58:52 -0500 Received: from mail-ea0-f182.google.com ([209.85.215.182]:37614) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1U2LdI-0003xa-VX; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 07:58:49 -0500 Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a12so2767227eaa.27 for <multiple recipients>; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 04:57:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nP0JXHsOh4HGHcY/6ZulVw0TVffaNulyTCyRx4oqFw8=; b=NFKDy0/Ede0GfplTNp/0YhiLHpP2iHKhNIOGiiz/zUeXik5lc1VedIc/wgEHgHwv6O QbSD7DdTLCH6xZqlhbK9fh+46YNy019nTjo+VYk9/evx5Pac/CS16v7CqWXzpnweu5TI KKg1IYCBfZAyegm0PSj2JSKzht8QIbv2BR5Or4VVhCX136SOpNguh16LqxEN/3ldfg/R y6QLWEGhqmfblPQ6dOUgjuv6s3+RLIYSpqrvvx/UI2m6QM6b/MknKJOt9EYNjVdEkR8u Oet1VN5ERj1M3a18Y7AUtqcd5MLaaxSXoR1Uyy28tyQiwa3UFptHFGpz6cE+A1j/956D hhcg== X-Received: by 10.14.173.196 with SMTP id v44mr70996487eel.29.1359982663410; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 04:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm27136245eeo.17.2013.02.04.04.57.41 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Feb 2013 04:57:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510FB03E.80301@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:57:34 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Taylan Ulrich B." <taylanbayirli@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13624: ACLOCAL_PATH documentation References: <871ucxj5pm.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <871ucxj5pm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13624 Cc: 13624 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) severity 13624 minor tags 13624 + moreinfo thanks On 02/04/2013 01:14 AM, Taylan Ulrich B. wrote: > Good day, > > The ACLOCAL_PATH environment-variable might benefit from better > documentation. > This is a little vague. What do you mean by "better documentation"? Do you find specific passages unclear? Is the documentation too short, or too long-winded? In any case, the best way towards a fix would probably be for you to offer a patch with your proposed improvements. I've found out that active users of a feature are often better at documenting or explaining it than developers of the same features are (and both are usually better than I am :-) > A mention in the short man-page would probably be best, > Consider that the man pages for aclocal and automake are just slightly tweaked versions of the respective '--help' output of those programs, and as such they should remain very short. But if you want to attempt a patch to enhance the help screen to also tell about ACLOCAL_PATH, and do so keeping it short ans sweet, you might easily sway my decision ;-) > since setting it is needed to get aclocal to work at all after > installing it in a non-standard path like ~/usr. > This is not true; the only issue is that *third-party* m4 files (those not provided by Automake itself) that are installed in the aclocal directory of another aclocal installation (say, in '/usr/share/aclocal') are not available by default to the new aclocal installation. > Also, should --print-ac-dir respect it? > No, because it just prints the *hard-coded* default directory where aclocal looks for third-party macros: <http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/automake.html#index-g_t_002d_002dprint_002dac_002ddir-273> > Currently it doesn't. > And this is by design. Do you have a real use-case for wanting '--print-ac-dir' to print all the directories that would be searched by aclocal? If yes, we might think of a new option for that (it should pretty easy to implement). Thanks, Stefano
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