Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2022 16:42:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 14 11:42:27 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42414 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nJeQl-0005uR-6z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:42:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1nJeQj-0005u8-8R for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:42:26 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=35212 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1nJeQd-0001tf-OU; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:42:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=IsjSvnmCWj2xb3iEbM1r3YJgrx/Mefe61XY6nbUCNsU=; b=XQx5f6yVrU2N kS9HlH5yov6hOhIZJdjSAujrmAPOM+h4Ip+ePvuaMHl17zulthRzOy/4iXMMiTdjDzUlAyXrovtgj QmWh1mI7hfk+BBJIVQBT9eiPFi+HvkIR5YSO/xTTxja6e7mAlluSsLFt/g4Fhk+L//hD/3Q5dGD1K wgezrrTQULrlYCSKL4w5VZnSmITJ4Cdj3dGGLyumw6fy0tLZT756sopynW7sCqfYi3rP8/mqaA4VU Dc5xbRkoY3XgJSJ65WjCqCPMzrmcAGBIa4R0zRvhrAjei/9SHooM1AADJNW10rG5RK3OqzljEU3qy 0LcZkkxdr5hDD8ju7gFW1Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1186 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1nJeQd-0003ap-97; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:42:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 18:42:18 +0200 Message-Id: <83czjppfh1.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdoiUzYecuS2CqZvPR6MsWdj_5C2yy-DdGWVM2sbj9DJCbA@HIDDEN> (message from Reuben Thomas on Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:27:54 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <87o83bxhll.fsf@HIDDEN> <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> <83k0dxpo5f.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdohNt=nEnK=4REe1-BkmGaC+=jUVCjAkyegEd1oBqoDdQA@HIDDEN> <83ee45pj7r.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiUzYecuS2CqZvPR6MsWdj_5C2yy-DdGWVM2sbj9DJCbA@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:27:54 +0000 > Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > It's the same case: references to variables and other symbols in > comments and strings of a program are very frequent. They are also > very frequent in email messages which discuss programming, such as > this discussion (I have Flyspell turned on in all my email buffers). > > I think we can distinguish 3 different problems here: > > 1. Natural language spellchecking. That's what this issue is about. > 2. Spell-checking code. (Essentially, identifiers.) > 3. Finding code inside natural language, and checking it as if it were code. (That's what you're talking about > here.) This is not a spellchecking problem, it's a problem of identifying which spell-checking apparatus to > use, rather like font-lock for multi-language buffers. It's hard to see how to do it without some syntactic clue > (e.g. the use of backticks in markdown), as used in multi-language buffers for font-locking. Like I said: when we talk about this stuff in email, it's both case 1 and case 3. Anyway: what are the practical proposals for improving this? Are we going to handle only periods, or does anyone have a more general solution?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
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As far as I can > > tell, hunspell doesn't cope well with characters like "." that > > normally are non-word characters, but *can* occur in a word. > > > > Relatedly, see: https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/issues/361 > > So it's a problem on the hunspell side, and not because Emacs is > considering the "." to be a non-word character? (I haven't tried to > debug what's going on.) For natural language, yes. There's also a problem in common abbreviations like "i.e.", which is > considered as the words "i" and "e", apparently... > This is indeed the case, and it's not normally a problem because Emacs does not spellcheck words so short. I was wondering whether Emacs could query the backend speller whether it > had the word "foo." in the dictionary before squiggly-lining "foo", but > I'm very unfamiliar with how these functions work. > It could! -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000f44ef705d7fc12da Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail= _attr"><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s= ans-serif;font-size:small"></span>On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 10:45, Lars Ingebr= igtsen <<a href=3D"mailto:larsi@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">larsi@HIDDEN= rg</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex= ">Reuben Thomas <<a href=3D"mailto:rrt@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">rrt@s= c3d.org</a>> writes:<br> <br> > To be honest, I'm not sure Emacs can do much here. As far as I can= <br> > tell, hunspell doesn't cope well with characters like "."= ; that<br> > normally are non-word characters, but *can* occur in a word.<br> ><br> > Relatedly, see: <a href=3D"https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/issues= /361" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/hunspell/huns= pell/issues/361</a><br> <br> So it's a problem on the hunspell side, and not because Emacs is<br> considering the "." to be a non-word character?=C2=A0 (I haven= 9;t tried to<br> debug what's going on.)<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami= ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"></span></blockquote><div><br= ></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:= small" class=3D"gmail_default">For natural language, yes.<br></div><br></di= v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde= r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"gmail_de= fault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"></s= pan> There's also a problem in common abbreviations like "i.e.", w= hich is<br> considered as the words "i" and "e", apparently...<br><= /blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s= ans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">This is indeed the case,= and it's not normally a problem because Emacs does not spellcheck word= s so short.</div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex= "> I was wondering whether Emacs could query the backend speller whether it<br= > had the word "foo." in the dictionary before squiggly-lining &quo= t;foo", but<br> I'm very unfamiliar with how these functions work.<br clear=3D"all"></b= lockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san= s-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">It could!</div></div><div>= =C2=A0</div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D= "ltr"><a href=3D"https://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">https://rrt.sc3d.o= rg</a></div></div></div></div></div> --000000000000f44ef705d7fc12da--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2022 15:28:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 14 10:28:24 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nJdH6-0003kG-4H for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:28:24 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:44879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rrt@HIDDEN>) id 1nJdGu-0003jp-CN for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:28:22 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f48.google.com with SMTP id d9-20020a17090a498900b001b8bb1d00e7so16158600pjh.3 for <20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:28:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MV4enPLMS3UjgM30BU8GeR1gv3oJcb5yAUJQWrB/+Uo=; b=eFnJ9XUcnfF5Fh36oA+Tauq6tiblk/EjGYod7EWcyqdFOL4fEI8ns4VfnJCfMceVOv XHZWy2GWDTJp2SD4f3DNBycZmOiv/JCOo+NDKklsTjP4nEO29EOIxgIiwkKEhXgKGLQD s2DLLy3nb6kpfhbBGzyNIvU0TgFgJG6D0nocM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MV4enPLMS3UjgM30BU8GeR1gv3oJcb5yAUJQWrB/+Uo=; b=FAkO9GedhRhTGj279qX+tlW8Zldrh8iyBdF9PS30YNUwJ64Ez62Oo0YERxyRLz1CKg V5tJK4yiQV/CjM787xir05i+XaM9sd9YvQVsuIkQmU2SC1ukNox7MXRUCDiNoHrfi2Qn WC4ENQSRWpQ/wUAoZNmPXQt9L1HVF/cqz57szTEpZ3HvpAQTQD5oYq7z8/8SsQRz0iD4 hLwQDOpE9EOaTbjLKg0kPd5HqIrLKtFoWOecMZqL4UGMvowMNWJCD1pUekckQ64mwdWt uRGxLpVqKYpJW/pX+muVw3cUh1ai5LhUF0RvjQ/hRf8j+rTdmcEbI5nfaHG35Aa3n9mb 0Y2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5304VKy7BBVHPAtjiHN06d5TsgvA4CjRUz4tvXD7Y4Ioj3WqNARJ fNdhq/ZdBYV9g4iZCrmXgOCot1vVXWJJbZnOfYf0jqFYq8w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy4jpri4xXfTcYLT5PzvegCMAbqI7Q8MtUrpNEnh47lGnOnQDn6vpUZjQvUP516wuUJrLO/pfNVKFe3P4ZAvrw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:bd4a:: with SMTP id b10mr279387plx.152.1644852485352; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:28:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <87o83bxhll.fsf@HIDDEN> <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> <83k0dxpo5f.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdohNt=nEnK=4REe1-BkmGaC+=jUVCjAkyegEd1oBqoDdQA@HIDDEN> <83ee45pj7r.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83ee45pj7r.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:27:54 +0000 Message-ID: <CAOnWdoiUzYecuS2CqZvPR6MsWdj_5C2yy-DdGWVM2sbj9DJCbA@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000190b3f05d7fc1066" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000190b3f05d7fc1066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 15:21, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > It's the same case: references to variables and other symbols in > comments and strings of a program are very frequent. They are also > very frequent in email messages which discuss programming, such as > this discussion (I have Flyspell turned on in all my email buffers). > I think we can distinguish 3 different problems here: 1. Natural language spellchecking. That's what this issue is about. 2. Spell-checking code. (Essentially, identifiers.) 3. Finding code inside natural language, and checking it as if it were code. (That's what you're talking about here.) This is not a spellchecking problem, it's a problem of identifying which spell-checking apparatus to use, rather like font-lock for multi-language buffers. It's hard to see how to do it without some syntactic clue (e.g. the use of backticks in markdown), as used in multi-language buffers for font-locking. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000190b3f05d7fc1066 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail= _attr">On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 15:21, Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:el= iz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail= _quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204= ,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> It's the same case: references to variables and other symbols in<br> comments and strings of a program are very frequent.=C2=A0 They are also<br= > very frequent in email messages which discuss programming, such as<br> this discussion (I have Flyspell turned on in all my email buffers).<br> </blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helv= etica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I think we can di= stinguish 3 different problems here:</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,h= elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div= style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"= gmail_default">1. Natural language spellchecking. That's what this issu= e is about.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-= size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">2. Spell-checking code. (Essentially, i= dentifiers.)</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font= -size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">3. Finding code inside natural languag= e, and checking it as if it were code. (That's what you're talking = about here.) This is not a spellchecking problem, it's a problem of ide= ntifying which spell-checking apparatus to use, rather like font-lock for m= ulti-language buffers. It's hard to see how to do it without some synta= ctic clue (e.g. the use of backticks in markdown), as used in multi-languag= e buffers for font-locking.<br></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir= =3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><= a href=3D"https://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">https://rrt.sc3d.org</a><= /div></div></div></div></div> --000000000000190b3f05d7fc1066--
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"Use the > spell-checker" how? Do you mean we should not break words on > punctuation characters, or do you mean not to break them only on '.', > or do you mean something else? > > Emacs is widely used to edit program sources, where stuff like > "file.attribute" and "list-my-packages" happens quite frequently. > > I wasn't considering this case, and this issue is about checking text > (or comments or strings) where you can just feed the entire thing to > the spellchecker, and not have to isolate words "manually", as in > program source. > > In program source (i.e. not strings or comments), the issue currently > under discussion won't arise, as "." cannot be part of an identifier. In some languages it can, e.g. R: "Identifiers consist of a sequence of letters, digits, the period (=E2=80=98.=E2=80=99) and the underscore." (https://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/r-release/R-lang.html#Identifiers) Steve Berman
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Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2022 15:07:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 14 10:07:56 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nJcxI-0003AJ-Dm for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:07:56 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:33265) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stephen.berman@HIDDEN>) id 1nJcxD-0003A4-I9 for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:07:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1644851264; bh=u21AMR6x3zU4dzfBwszL/m/C2IbLL2ApqcDvU5hRplc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=VtY4nTQAKXeuKgNXkypfAAH012FD4zfZb8BfdJp4Q5cpz+Qj1tULAA2KSPvX5oRNK So3TOMZptEMLY4CrLk2i/UmJ5728vx+OmQvkQWy2LBoC3lxZxgaTlEWQ50h1AcfjbR Dzfie8WhmP8OWAZ9rWOXCDCLw9kf2ZlszG15103A= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs2 ([89.246.38.110]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MFsUv-1nVPsF28g3-00HMOc; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 16:07:44 +0100 From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@HIDDEN> To: Reuben Thomas via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <87o83bxhll.fsf@HIDDEN> <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> <83k0dxpo5f.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdohNt=nEnK=4REe1-BkmGaC+=jUVCjAkyegEd1oBqoDdQA@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 16:07:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdohNt=nEnK=4REe1-BkmGaC+=jUVCjAkyegEd1oBqoDdQA@HIDDEN> (Reuben Thomas via's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:43:12 +0000") Message-ID: <878rudcwqo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:B7xS7y8XotlAcDgQkw/P6cFWRsLu0mAV7GXidWeujUZExP98EVc sDP31EqAK6KvxR05mJl0J6idWnb5RY7Aa8IsayhK0u/MFTExIPnFk1ZFakOXm7et90fd2ON QYrCqrRETNri1sk5EdHbL/EglgPB0xt9WBxLKSzqmBtydPd8mbA27qwbQOGpGcQT/krXQOW gHcoS6D8SMTY0pQEjo4EQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:VBBE2U+HdiA=:J7plLOxqo8szJQxaQIb37R YWobTcKs8VB+VF3U9ouBcd55az4gowYqIAaR41aHQOMVM1TI8S2X15qRJzm7VQoUaX9igMWjK 3o7rTVF/ACJw+X/EA20lZTH/XXshc5npwW0Ld6q3TbwpPOtHmxemS3Y0PhdK0Hqb8ZmP402UM O/+OmdszSkrp4DsUhO75gUlLEUAPJer70eoyOGjDny1tWHp/SEjaBWEv0OhHbYEnm2j9XpVbR jCrb8dzwBm1wmeoX/YCNSGOUCFJxGzvVLfmD1y/4xo/5knQd/9quWMGV7m77nlgulwR43+E8t QwCk6/awGM5J9oud6ivLFlUEkuaApUmTQNoCGYyszjKbI+m2PRvJqln7FN7DNL7CXmsxkiVDH hVPNYbYJ7Q0Sjg79Mo+zKdzHbvO2nivf64xbj/c3PZe2HnPzxfcTiovNr0kslMbDMZHY461+9 /vZdkqqs1N+YvKVztZgpKLAw9hFR9sHFOGNbUUuHX3I0aoeOFAtmowWYU508xkiw91H+6kFXf 8/W4jhu62+i0QGpq3AzxU05TVQgxnkFpwe2FXIpoSCSesXc3EpQGy8ridv9lCuIMacqAfdbOb Q5AxXuVDWW4QD+nhUheECpWHphH92/2h9HqTb1mhPAK/itzydpZx8805ybe3DM8Ia5KSJ7tQs n4wIriMsweS3U/pysMRIr+qXKilS74Xpt8q9bs9A5C/XZcViFAHMyNEdQdttrgH+YZUHh/dHW 1BC7eCaPc795SnQaYSf7ut8jmMJPklDy/UAxu3SHw6AjpvQoqUN6uBzhJwCwLaKyp3iCONigl cyL6GJ7vok6Cocw3YdZT8683S5mmWh4KfIsMPqelD4GSn3HqvzIy0bFSOoGUis6ciy1TO9Ivb un9fMgd7ZUB1/pgqBw3aj8QHS0Yl75C1+CMUJhvkoeOnVQCND2hVhWC0rx+lmYA5PBdIkrqNl NCDLEOELSvhLP40gguMvAlKWQNxfbTvehjW+KQPAviemgtLl5XjaRKCKYIC+1HkvUL3tOttMm C24I9HExGdCoy0Y/mv2WJc3KLXdcPTsd7IU4ONSi81QXamFC1e8JuZjTn5+yZGmGB611c1jlE o1uD1/FHRNtcgs= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:43:12 +0000 Reuben Thomas via "Bug reports for GNU E= macs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 13:35, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > I don't think I understand what this means in practice. "Use the > spell-checker" how? Do you mean we should not break words on > punctuation characters, or do you mean not to break them only on '.', > or do you mean something else? > > Emacs is widely used to edit program sources, where stuff like > "file.attribute" and "list-my-packages" happens quite frequently. > > I wasn't considering this case, and this issue is about checking text > (or comments or strings) where you can just feed the entire thing to > the spellchecker, and not have to isolate words "manually", as in > program source. > > In program source (i.e. not strings or comments), the issue currently > under discussion won't arise, as "." cannot be part of an identifier. In some languages it can, e.g. R: "Identifiers consist of a sequence of letters, digits, the period (=E2=80=98.=E2=80=99) and the underscore." (https://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/r-release/R-lang.html#Identifiers) Steve Berman
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
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"Use the > spell-checker" how? Do you mean we should not break words on > punctuation characters, or do you mean not to break them only on '.', > or do you mean something else? > > Emacs is widely used to edit program sources, where stuff like > "file.attribute" and "list-my-packages" happens quite frequently. > I wasn't considering this case, and this issue is about checking text (or comments or strings) where you can just feed the entire thing to the spellchecker, and not have to isolate words "manually", as in program source. In program source (i.e. not strings or comments), the issue currently under discussion won't arise, as "." cannot be part of an identifier. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000afe23405d7fa996a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail= _attr">On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 13:35, Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:el= iz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail= _quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204= ,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> I don't think I understand what this means in practice.=C2=A0 "Use= the<br> spell-checker" how?=C2=A0 Do you mean we should not break words on<br> punctuation characters, or do you mean not to break them only on '.'= ;,<br> or do you mean something else?<br> <br> Emacs is widely used to edit program sources, where stuff like<br> "file.attribute" and "list-my-packages" happens quite f= requently.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:ar= ial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I wasn= 9;t considering this case, and this issue is about checking text (or commen= ts or strings) where you can just feed the entire thing to the spellchecker= , and not have to isolate words "manually", as in program source.= </div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"= class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic= a,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">In program source (i.= e. not strings or comments), the issue currently under discussion won't= arise, as "." cannot be part of an identifier.<br></div></div></= div><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">= <div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">ht= tps://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div></div></div></div></div> --000000000000afe23405d7fa996a--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2022 13:35:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 14 08:35:21 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nJbVe-0007kp-F8 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:35:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55734) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1nJbVR-0007jw-Jq for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:35:17 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=58682 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1nJbVK-0005VT-7e; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:34:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=R96VDqDS5wmaRtuJms2oYtNpbs6LOmoW8RxfmXFQC48=; b=DfuDasl7QBIs HIXj3PejyyuBrbFQpL5HKIZagQup/93TCWDp81ELVZuI5tlc+S4a//EmsYABMLJMlQ2VvJanQjzff UvttmSnygpbbhosKlHZVBtwybcF/1uyX0bRHnKE3OYCD4jho/PVj0eKm/u11uGKEzkKkHWqnMaI23 Ba91C+HRhmav+uJdQ6r9/p14n6Klyl3Bwbvs0VB7SN238KNGosUgCUTM8X/Fv9RjeW9VeBIotmGGu EprOOvCnOFmrZtxPlyY81OvizTiX//lsXbnrr09wh8pnksqKnFQtdOwDdPydfvwqPA32sgM/M/AqX zxj3O+1R0PG0ea92BKGsfw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1667 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1nJbVG-0007Ae-4H; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:34:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:34:52 +0200 Message-Id: <83k0dxpo5f.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> (message from Reuben Thomas on Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:33:32 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <87o83bxhll.fsf@HIDDEN> <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:33:32 +0000 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Maybe we should have a list of exceptions? > > As an upstream spellchecker maintainer, I don't think that's a good idea. Emacs should just be using the > spellchecker. If it's not working, the problem should be fixed in the spellchecker. I don't think I understand what this means in practice. "Use the spell-checker" how? Do you mean we should not break words on punctuation characters, or do you mean not to break them only on '.', or do you mean something else? Emacs is widely used to edit program sources, where stuff like "file.attribute" and "list-my-packages" happens quite frequently. Right now, these are not marked as misspellings, but if we pass them to the speller with the punctuation, we are likely to get back indications of misspelled words, which is not what we want. Thus my questions above: if we want to handle punctuation characters smarter than just considering them part of the NOT-CASECHARS class, we need to come up with a specification that will improve the situation, not make it worse. Can we do that? > To be honest, I'm not sure Emacs can do much here. I tend to agree, but maybe we can come up with some minor improvements, even if they don't solve the problem in its entirety.
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Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2022 13:09:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 14 08:09:06 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nJb6I-000708-7p for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:09:06 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:47405) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1nJb6E-0006zY-8M for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:09:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1644844135; bh=ulJmAjevTwwkVCRSg8uI8WM+T8Co8pDXMhRX14zU2qs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=TXy7Dv3cvC/5ZEjXQviprH9+/t4olildkNcIqPSXP8ua++DkE0GVVT9S/LedJBEN/ gTsndHBrwxYjktdOku8m2kSMgOPU4tB9Dweao9R1m73zUl8+p2mfzoTl0WV/FrLcF+ 4g36O4F6g/7kerusPjSV/iP167VqCS0vDzh91JmA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.142.96.169]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MiaYJ-1ny8iO28pj-00ffCf; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:08:55 +0100 Message-ID: <bf4d8dff-3ede-0c6f-02b3-8a708a3ebf40@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:08:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period Content-Language: en-US To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <87o83bxhll.fsf@HIDDEN> <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> <8735klu3pz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8735klu3pz.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:KTsBBfE8RNXUkgmPnYVZ7ziMmy2HMBE7A5zeQ8SJrDaxfL31YzI pyD2X6fNM/U+93apXugOjNkkKnwcjxIMA8nl5fSzMkqVyzWCt66tO4AizbIbj4Vh/QNIBI/ 7yPmyulA5q8AGXiiwFH+7TvX6S4hOxtSJTLWugdNCRtclzJKQjV23yvfS/2TwyMsTZomuY8 JspMMMY7HnTKhFXrB6iSg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TeSQIsP+6Mk=:S5xCUqHHCS4h+4130/brwt 7Ey7CfnrmfwsAVNsoZP6Z37arlsCEb7TaEEHBemzGp6HSt/62NOhOQj0uUnRqtGElzp1Wl3b+ EOfb1Lpx8u4SrYwVAZLyIj2bKifSrSuJp35AthJ3oKjEEzbu3xJZ4Il3f+jBkYWi3gtUfeu+/ pRLV8FLs1B7TM3VtLXhq2sE3/hbPm2uf9kjk+HPC3/WOqxu32VHenKYepS2cU8KHWh0jYNrgO cXj59H1CTp66jqa1NGwS1wGSy7K8AIdOSMf/NBKkQ3H9kzSE1Ji1fDSTtrnQMJNIdu06OSRbM hK+c3kkP9vJz+vJbwReDNGvKmPig4ucUsmWVjV+tpQBcBZxeTfoAy9I8e+Lj3f+D3YuZnhPqG KAJkqxyVtBo8ha1y+yFs/DjNvd7uFD2oOpJUKvYm1tv4gpInJYZvWqY8S50GPH34Nu8PIHaMT hP01lfiesJEw/HB+g6Li00pEtvboZBd9gHahWaOBFbOU8bsOxSmyMcRc6rVLr5kVK2eUv52se ikLkEB+YxSJ1HcjMPY6iXkvTOaSe0HTg+XtTpEnkG72nzBzH3dARfN8dBc6S3zV1q4/RFR8/K 64hzZtKXQPfBHHoeNX/LkwWRDKNyQG8vo6JvvXp94q9QaGW00KN940Y4MHhZ28J6uqoGrFwlb IYqJPmeM42XOEq36GrNg8aOcKJQnprk0r2zRpTNhczqaZYbb9/80PkJC/0yi3hMMi8Lhbe4l+ /QIEawZBgWQFDhJrST1l/WrCQve91B7cSiAzQOEFdEXw045rRrqGNU6eRpQsSKC9xhYaLPWaM KYh+E4P5QLNGM42ny3csCTiMCDwR84fjRLUCIgXe1foAg/1LiS23IqJ7Eh6OFAOfBWK3UDbj5 Kk5UW67Q7+/4oeFGqVcC0mAuJXTG+zBPcvhwm63jDFc4Wu4nYylN97C5dRPrBB9opcH2m51c+ 7hpvUDhrLYdS2089/Xda+D8Y0rWVxDt1e9z0pG0Rwk2CSadY+Ggs+40RJdcwT+GxBmig/V0jE zVzK7KVNwIWgnnOvBfC+lw32OSCS8X2pYYA9FMCEt0fKYDYtVWxsdrSFWrJ+cvEWru012w1wq QTvDpyJ2ez9D38= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I was wondering whether Emacs could query the backend speller whether it > had the word "foo." in the dictionary before squiggly-lining "foo", but > I'm very unfamiliar with how these functions work. Query and/or set WORDCHARS in the respective .aff file. martin
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> writes: > To be honest, I'm not sure Emacs can do much here. As far as I can > tell, hunspell doesn't cope well with characters like "." that > normally are non-word characters, but *can* occur in a word. > > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> writes: > To be honest, I'm not sure Emacs can do much here. As far as I can > tell, hunspell doesn't cope well with characters like "." that > normally are non-word characters, but *can* occur in a word. > > Relatedly, see: https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/issues/361 So it's a problem on the hunspell side, and not because Emacs is considering the "." to be a non-word character? (I haven't tried to debug what's going on.) There's also a problem in common abbreviations like "i.e.", which is considered as the words "i" and "e", apparently... I was wondering whether Emacs could query the backend speller whether it had the word "foo." in the dictionary before squiggly-lining "foo", but I'm very unfamiliar with how these functions work. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2022 21:33:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 13 16:33:55 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39035 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nJMVG-0002fl-SV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:33:55 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f179.google.com ([209.85.210.179]:41723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rrt@HIDDEN>) id 1nJMVB-0002fT-MW for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:33:53 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f179.google.com with SMTP id c10so314011pfv.8 for <20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:33:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+1i4nWn1SvjNv19QnwYllMqAC9aCUqgvByjQ67liSVQ=; b=wMMYUOe0BgRIRmHTNpNEDB70qRf60mruqmYZQw7emmPVw6GlyP6rLifwrFDKXpQ6Z/ KiN4FoYrArc5GHOLssh2zXGVK6lkB6NkcfE6KmvscCnp2EMFh8i1kllqMbXr8Gh+xxeA Kvl9Tv+U8y3X1Q0SYp1Q+jG3Kohftkyw/C/KA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+1i4nWn1SvjNv19QnwYllMqAC9aCUqgvByjQ67liSVQ=; b=aKpugqThwk/bcquM0y2MAck1fsrtEuwNBvuodJxaTIzWBqs56wcdMRmWQYcb6xFLCj D5iznjGsIsrR3w49YQHYt785BxgLhKf1d6GZPe70tBgNfU9GM/U+IWuzpETzb57iyDk4 XoLZDofhwKY6vFwsV+4wFlf4eVtyBOEw1SI3Z7Z06fJn5DXMig9lr0No7q7pyI2jkvpS iWyWMGXEVUjphCBRVztouxAkshx1pgylU8W3aATimz82jUmY+4NCO1kjDkf3BtKw2i1f BKD0qKx/HH3L78jFNd9lA/OjzbDPUH4GLgQ/1ULKCWdKfdqms/p8o32YG6AaNXbMS4hT nnFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530UIGVlR+u6QRxVNo/nXpTWNouNC6fYYeRSKUUQnYCOOjknAe29 y4pWLbaRF/y0njBHrwgG+wg43JuqSWXwvCgHARau9w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwFjAUCVjRW5eoKXAlZSZifRqZhmB0lgBJKkiZtdpOU80cOHIC+mDSz/IiLy9zHKh9Qa8s1my4rauYqZFVGf34= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:22d1:: with SMTP id f17mr11316113pfj.13.1644788023690; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:33:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <87o83bxhll.fsf@HIDDEN> <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83fsonq6w9.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:33:32 +0000 Message-ID: <CAOnWdoje+jyTcPUrK5szPywcKjrrAKzp2FktQuFjPddMdiXS0Q@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e2219905d7ed0df1" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000e2219905d7ed0df1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 at 12:37, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Maybe we should have a list of exceptions? > As an upstream spellchecker maintainer, I don't think that's a good idea. Emacs should just be using the spellchecker. If it's not working, the problem should be fixed in the spellchecker. As far as I can see, the problem is not specific to flyspell (mea culpa for the bug title!). For now, with current hunspell dictionaries, and using either hunspell, or enchant with hunspell backend, I have used the workaround of adding a few words like "etc" to my personal word list. To be honest, I'm not sure Emacs can do much here. As far as I can tell, hunspell doesn't cope well with characters like "." that normally are non-word characters, but *can* occur in a word. Relatedly, see: https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/issues/361 -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000e2219905d7ed0df1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail= _attr">On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 at 12:37, Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:el= iz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail= _quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204= ,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> Maybe we should have a list of<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f= amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> </span>exceptions?<br> </blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helv= etica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">As an upstream sp= ellchecker maintainer, I don't think that's a good idea. Emacs shou= ld just be using the spellchecker. If it's not working, the problem sho= uld be fixed in the spellchecker.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helv= etica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div st= yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gma= il_default">As far as I can see, the problem is not specific to flyspell (m= ea culpa for the bug title!).</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic= a,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style= =3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_= default">For now, with current hunspell dictionaries, and using either huns= pell, or enchant with hunspell backend, I have used the workaround of addin= g a few words like "etc" to my personal word list.</div><div styl= e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail= _default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo= nt-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">To be honest, I'm not sure Emacs= can do much here. As far as I can tell, hunspell doesn't cope well wit= h characters like "." that normally are non-word characters, but = *can* occur in a word.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-= serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font= -family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"= >Relatedly, see: <a href=3D"https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/issues/361= ">https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/issues/361</a></div><br></div>-- <br= ><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir= =3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">https://rrt.sc3= d.org</a></div></div></div></div></div> --000000000000e2219905d7ed0df1--
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> writes: > 1. Rename my ~/.hunspell_en_GB. > > 2. Start "emacs -Q" > > 3. M-x flyspell-mode RET > > 4. M-x customize-variable RET ispell-program-name RET; set to "/usr/bin/hunspell" > (doing this after step 3 [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> writes: > 1. Rename my ~/.hunspell_en_GB. > > 2. Start "emacs -Q" > > 3. M-x flyspell-mode RET > > 4. M-x customize-variable RET ispell-program-name RET; set to "/usr/bin/hunspell" > (doing this after step 3 because the variable is not available for customization > before loading ispell) > > 5. Type "etc. i.e. e.g." > > All of the above is now red-underwiggled. 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Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2015 10:37:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 06 06:37:07 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Z1BTO-0000i1-Lj for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:37:07 -0400 Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:44273) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1Z1BTK-0000hU-Um for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:37:04 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NPI00J00Q3EMU00@HIDDEN> for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:32:07 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NPI00C78QLI4EA0@HIDDEN>; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:32:06 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:36:55 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period In-reply-to: <CAOnWdogO4O5C9bQ6bsBwutsP0WPe=uqNs+dgeV6eAHoNOxEd_g@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Message-id: <833825nmwo.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojMU=5s5MQYi-RYKHW5xc8FWa3Jar233628u1XOzzuJ+w@HIDDEN> <834mmlnog7.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoh7oJgzTs2ZnhT_QBL1XUA0GQ+6hJ7BvEbPZ3EMjwJpZQ@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdogO4O5C9bQ6bsBwutsP0WPe=uqNs+dgeV6eAHoNOxEd_g@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:11:22 +0100 > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > I should add, ispell-buffer too only complains about "foxb". It is just > flyspell that complains about the other (correct) spellings. Then I guess flyspell-word-search-forward/backward is the culprit.
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It is= just flyspell that complains about the other (correct) spellings. --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --001a114289f278f3a90517d6a15b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6= June 2015 at 11:08, Reuben Thomas <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= rrt@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">rrt@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<br><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc= c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><= div><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div>$ cat Downloads/foo.txt<br>i.e. this = is not e.g. etc. help!<div style=3D"font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80= =8B foxb=E2=80=8B</div><br>$ hunspell -a -d en_GB -i UTF-8 ~/Downloads/foo.= txt <br>@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 (but really Hunspell 1.3.3= )<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>& foxb 6 33: fox, fob, foxy, fo= x b, fixable, faux<br><br><div style=3D"font-size:small">=E2=80=8BHere we s= ee that hunspell doesn't like "foxb" (great!) but is otherwis= e happy.<br><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:small">So the problem does no= t appear to be with hunspell<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size= :small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>= <br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:inline">= =E2=80=8BI should add, ispell-buffer too only complains about "foxb&qu= ot;. It is just flyspell that complains about the other (correct) spellings= .<br clear=3D"all"></div></div></div><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signatu= re"><a href=3D"http://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</= a></div> </div></div> --001a114289f278f3a90517d6a15b--
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Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2015 10:08:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 06 06:08:20 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Z1B1Y-0008QU-5L for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:08:20 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com ([209.85.213.182]:37270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rrt@HIDDEN>) id 1Z1B1V-0008QB-NR for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:08:18 -0400 Received: by igbsb11 with SMTP id sb11so30593936igb.0 for <20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 03:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9UAznoQ/Sr9oqrVaEf5mFZk9ATltjjPatvfj1wM6p9I=; b=vHKc/rN1h/ZwFUPX1Yiq5YEJLlAAX8qvtr6Kar0jBnsFAY4rwxzfUghImqolCFYq1t WveNQo8IT13ZZ7R77U5vpXf5Dn565vGJwOEI67Mp9TrprVZaJvDCDmozx1cmqzGaUySB 7gkhXBv1QcSlK+pAoQMaNLvAv9FWjWBlscGb0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9UAznoQ/Sr9oqrVaEf5mFZk9ATltjjPatvfj1wM6p9I=; b=jqWErf9CkBFmk6X5oY0g/Uq7QpU1x6dLHCuxZMlEbL7wBJ4Kg5n7x9RIMtGKV1ylqq zuZUdNiuTYn3XNcTu7CtC+WCG6D28FZQznHu0wLto7EuYjR7mAAw9VIyVwiks7sgkmfG gxUCQ6jpwRKIXJXD4zWa3znUXLr/dLiKdABwQQcN/CWAZB7Au7VpEcKFskixv8fIFyBl IBZHzL8N/MQBzvJLPKkCLPQsfQZEQOdWF6aTUbmYxG3H3VmHfgaoubLVbs5XykwiYWkm VXaxDwkfh1hZ3nhwYFH3OVWeuE8aIBXvMW5YN3VQha+G0RJrjbCm1NGbUTijQN9aXqX9 cZtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlVyF7CnJkNlG8me3hS/vsaSIjyuZhzGK4CGv/60ADT9b7nQrIlWLjh1q58QXX7ByFxwHdX MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.178.133 with SMTP id cy5mr2838361igc.5.1433585292330; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 03:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.19 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:08:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <834mmlnog7.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojMU=5s5MQYi-RYKHW5xc8FWa3Jar233628u1XOzzuJ+w@HIDDEN> <834mmlnog7.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:08:12 +0100 Message-ID: <CAOnWdoh7oJgzTs2ZnhT_QBL1XUA0GQ+6hJ7BvEbPZ3EMjwJpZQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01538cbe1b15aa0517d696ca X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --089e01538cbe1b15aa0517d696ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 June 2015 at 11:03, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:38:17 +0100 > > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > > Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > =E2=80=8BI should add, if I M-x ispell-change-dictionary=E2=80=8B > > =E2=80=8BRET american RET, then allow the underlining to refresh, "etc.= " is no > longer > > marked as wrong (as we've seen, it's incorrectly in the "american" word > list), > > but "i.e." and "e.g." are still so marked.=E2=80=8B > > That's not what I see here. When en_US is used, neither of these is > flagged as a mis-spelling. When I switch to en_GB, only "etc" and the > "i" in "i.e." are flagged, the rest (including all of "e.g.") are not. > > I guess the reason is the different versions of Hunspell dictionaries > we have installed. > > Once again, I don't think this is an Emacs problem. Don't you see the > same when you invoke Hunspell as a stand-alone program? > $ cat Downloads/foo.txt i.e. this is not e.g. etc. help! =E2=80=8B foxb=E2=80=8B $ hunspell -a -d en_GB -i UTF-8 ~/Downloads/foo.txt @(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 (but really Hunspell 1.3.3) * * * * * * * & foxb 6 33: fox, fob, foxy, fox b, fixable, faux =E2=80=8BHere we see that hunspell doesn't like "foxb" (great!) but is othe= rwise happy. So the problem does not appear to be with hunspell. --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --089e01538cbe1b15aa0517d696ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6= June 2015 at 11:03, Eli Zaretskii <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<br><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:= 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:= 38:17 +0100<br> <span class=3D"">> From: Reuben Thomas <<a href=3D"mailto:rrt@HIDDEN= g">rrt@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org">20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a>= <br> ><br> </span><span class=3D"">> =E2=80=8BI should add, if I M-x ispell-change-= dictionary=E2=80=8B<br> > =E2=80=8BRET american RET, then allow the underlining to refresh, &quo= t;etc." is no longer<br> > marked as wrong (as we've seen, it's incorrectly in the "= american" word list),<br> > but "i.e." and "e.g." are still so marked.=E2=80= =8B<br> <br> </span>That's not what I see here.=C2=A0 When en_US is used, neither of= these is<br> flagged as a mis-spelling.=C2=A0 When I switch to en_GB, only "etc&quo= t; and the<br> "i" in "i.e." are flagged, the rest (including all of &= quot;e.g.") are not.<br> <br> I guess the reason is the different versions of Hunspell dictionaries<br> we have installed.<br> <br> Once again, I don't think this is an Emacs problem.=C2=A0 Don't you= see the<br> same when you invoke Hunspell as a stand-alone program?<br> </blockquote></div><br>$ cat Downloads/foo.txt<br>i.e. this is not e.g. etc= . help!<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:inline= ">=E2=80=8B foxb=E2=80=8B</div><br>$ hunspell -a -d en_GB -i UTF-8 ~/Downlo= ads/foo.txt <br>@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 (but really Hunspe= ll 1.3.3)<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>*<br>& foxb 6 33: fox, fob, = foxy, fox b, fixable, faux<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-size:small">=E2=80=8BHere we see that hunspell doesn't like "fox= b" (great!) but is otherwise happy.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d= efault" style=3D"font-size:small">So the problem does not appear to be with= hunspell.<br clear=3D"all"></div><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"= ><a href=3D"http://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</a><= /div> </div></div> --089e01538cbe1b15aa0517d696ca--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2015 10:03:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 06 06:03:48 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42597 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Z1AxA-0008Ju-4k for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:03:48 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:47770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1Z1Ax7-0008Jf-VT for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:03:47 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NPI00B00P5H6N00@HIDDEN> for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:03:39 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NPI00B8BPA14Y60@HIDDEN>; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:03:39 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:03:36 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period In-reply-to: <CAOnWdojMU=5s5MQYi-RYKHW5xc8FWa3Jar233628u1XOzzuJ+w@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Message-id: <834mmlnog7.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojMU=5s5MQYi-RYKHW5xc8FWa3Jar233628u1XOzzuJ+w@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:38:17 +0100 > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > I should add, if I M-x ispell-change-dictionary > RET american RET, then allow the underlining to refresh, "etc." is no longer > marked as wrong (as we've seen, it's incorrectly in the "american" word list), > but "i.e." and "e.g." are still so marked. That's not what I see here. When en_US is used, neither of these is flagged as a mis-spelling. When I switch to en_GB, only "etc" and the "i" in "i.e." are flagged, the rest (including all of "e.g.") are not. I guess the reason is the different versions of Hunspell dictionaries we have installed. Once again, I don't think this is an Emacs problem. Don't you see the same when you invoke Hunspell as a stand-alone program?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2015 09:58:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 06 05:58:30 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42589 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Z1As1-0008B6-VJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 05:58:30 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:53264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1Z1Arz-0008Ar-73 for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 05:58:28 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NPI00200OZXWA00@HIDDEN> for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:58:20 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NPI0029CP17W600@HIDDEN>; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:58:20 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:58:18 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period In-reply-to: <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Message-id: <836171nop1.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:35:46 +0100 > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > The en_US dictionary contains "etc", which is incorrect. > > Not that I'm maintaining those dictionaries, but why is it incorrect, > in your opinion? It clearly produces the desirable effect, doesn't it? > > > No, it produces the undesirable effect of treating "etc" as a correct spelling. I think it's a correct spelling, but that's me. > Does this mean that your problem is solved, and we can close this bug? > Or does something still need to be fixed in Emacs? > > > Sorry, I must have been unclear. I still have the original problem: without the > workaround of adding incorrect spellings to my personal wordlist, "i.e." and > "e.g." are marked as wrong in en_GB. I just double checked this with the > following recipe: > > 1. Rename my ~/.hunspell_en_GB. > > 2. Start "emacs -Q" > > 3. M-x flyspell-mode RET > > 4. M-x customize-variable RET ispell-program-name RET; set to > "/usr/bin/hunspell" (doing this after step 3 because the variable is not > available for customization before loading ispell) > > 5. Type "etc. i.e. e.g." > > All of the above is now red-underwiggled. But do you agree that it's not an Emacs problem?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
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flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b397b947d1a286a0517d62b27 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --485b397b947d1a286a0517d62b27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 June 2015 at 10:35, Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > All of the above is now red-underwiggled. > =E2=80=8BI should add, if I M-x ispell-change-dictionary=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8BRET american RET, then allow the underlining to refresh, "etc." is= no longer marked as wrong (as we've seen, it's incorrectly in the "american" word list), but "i.e." and "e.g." are still so marked.=E2=80=8B --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --485b397b947d1a286a0517d62b27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6= June 2015 at 10:35, Reuben Thomas <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= rrt@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">rrt@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<br><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc= c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><= br><div style=3D"font-size:small">All of the above is now red-underwiggled.= <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"></font></s= pan></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" st= yle=3D"font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8BI should add, if I M-x ispe= ll-change-dictionary=E2=80=8B</div>=C2=A0<div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8BRET american RET, then allow t= he underlining to refresh, "etc." is no longer marked as wrong (a= s we've seen, it's incorrectly in the "american" word lis= t), but "i.e." and "e.g." are still so marked.=E2=80=8B= </div></div></div><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><a href=3D"http= ://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div> </div></div> --485b397b947d1a286a0517d62b27--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2015 09:35:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 06 05:35:56 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Z1AWB-0007et-96 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 05:35:55 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com ([209.85.223.177]:34169) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rrt@HIDDEN>) id 1Z1AW8-0007ee-P3 for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 05:35:53 -0400 Received: by iebmu5 with SMTP id mu5so37228962ieb.1 for <20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 02:35:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=f4IzrNsnjjpBjXmCO3hsKtP9MkFuk0lh3RCboUc9ILc=; b=FYodRO9SrCWjiYybly9xFHWZanuoeG8X0aWVl04dzfkzHvcb9QJbP1INZvEZxfBpW2 1OKMWXfFM6GxN/RhubSAVxFfbnbYkrkTQNGphNcZXLerq14ZJfXQ2QuG0tCq0m996zIe lUMxaKSsfBidKlmjGh7+ZR0aRV8iZZ7pQIpzw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=f4IzrNsnjjpBjXmCO3hsKtP9MkFuk0lh3RCboUc9ILc=; b=Zaa4w8nrKrMvsfPl6pNvfOtwqtpoVJ9wESyI601aXQnQhIZMqNdKnG/jmTXBeoEliO VGkr1FrRSdZEBucB1kIqSg63feskgk+sAn6iOIplgMbQ/uMann2BwOsWASDZAbT+BFdC pLDz24oZUtWOIQCYotbQoPxUdFScXHLkucST3Nk8XIy1Rdel93rZ6HM84RZryxItDU5l syOAkfH4zWrq2xe/ZToNAL7N79xVB1Xx0yOxE0OecdUQterhgX0OJ3Jya+5uBZ7QH58K uC4OSFI2phqUpVt9tiK32nejA5GgWrmLPut0UUz7RNGo2V7aBYbJD+WKz6KLsPQYKKAk iRQA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnNOEv9N2LnS+HBDQLC1NaPp9ME3cdy96WoDidKlF1Vu+uA33HlkReRW+kC5p5wFpQ9jUuQ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.154.65 with SMTP id p1mr14555572icw.26.1433583346954; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 02:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.19 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 02:35:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: <CAOnWdoiyUFF1cVo8m82BURE7UCgCumAAF-=NrA4vNCUpAYT1YA@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e815a26d69d0517d62213 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --90e6ba6e815a26d69d0517d62213 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 June 2015 at 07:49, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 22:42:39 +0100 > > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > > Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > flyspell marks as incorrect =E2=80=9Cetc.=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ci.e.= =E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ce.g.=E2=80=9D &c. > > > > I can reproduce part of this with en_GB, but not with en_US. So I > > think it's an issue with the dictionary, not with flyspell or ispel= l. > > > > The en_US dictionary contains "etc", which is incorrect. > > Not that I'm maintaining those dictionaries, but why is it incorrect, > in your opinion? It clearly produces the desirable effect, doesn't it? > =E2=80=8BNo, it produces the undesirable effect of treating "etc" as a corr= ect spelling.=E2=80=8B Does this mean that your problem is solved, and we can close this bug? > Or does something still need to be fixed in Emacs? > =E2=80=8BSorry, I must have been unclear. I still have the original problem= : without the workaround of adding incorrect spellings to my personal wordlist, "i.e." and "e.g." are marked as wrong in en_GB. I just double checked this with the following recipe: 1. Rename my ~/.hunspell_en_GB. 2. Start "emacs -Q" 3. M-x flyspell-mode RET 4. M-x customize-variable RET ispell-program-name RET; set to "/usr/bin/hunspell" (doing this after step 3 because the variable is not available for customization before loading ispell) 5. Type "etc. i.e. e.g." All of the above is now red-underwiggled. --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --90e6ba6e815a26d69d0517d62213 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6= June 2015 at 07:49, Eli Zaretskii <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<br><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc= c solid;padding-left:1ex">> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 22:42:39 +0100<br> > From: Reuben Thomas <<a href=3D"mailto:rrt@HIDDEN">rrt@HIDDEN</= a>><br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org">20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a>= <br> <span class=3D"">><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> flyspell marks as incorrect =E2=80=9Cetc.=E2= =80=9D, =E2=80=9Ci.e.=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ce.g.=E2=80=9D &c.<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I can reproduce part of this with en_GB, but not wi= th en_US. So I<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0think it's an issue with the dictionary, not wi= th flyspell or ispell.<br> ><br> > The en_US dictionary contains "etc", which is incorrect.<br> <br> </span>Not that I'm maintaining those dictionaries, but why is it incor= rect,<br> in your opinion?=C2=A0 It clearly produces the desirable effect, doesn'= t it?<br></blockquote><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s= ize:small">=E2=80=8BNo, it produces the undesirable effect of treating &quo= t;etc" as a correct spelling.=E2=80=8B</div><br></div><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad= ding-left:1ex"> Does this mean that your problem is solved, and we can close this bug?<br> Or does something still need to be fixed in Emacs?<br> </blockquote></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal= l">=E2=80=8BSorry, I must have been unclear. I still have the original prob= lem: without the workaround of adding incorrect spellings to my personal wo= rdlist, "i.e." and "e.g." are marked as wrong in en_GB.= I just double checked this with the following recipe:<br><br></div><div cl= ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">1. Rename my ~/.hunspell_en= _GB.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">2.= Start "emacs -Q"<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-size:small">3. M-x flyspell-mode RET<br><br></div><div class=3D"gm= ail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">4. M-x customize-variable RET ispell= -program-name RET; set to "/usr/bin/hunspell" (doing this after s= tep 3 because the variable is not available for customization before loadin= g ispell)<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal= l">5. Type "etc. i.e. e.g."<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa= ult" style=3D"font-size:small">All of the above is now red-underwiggled.<br= clear=3D"all"></div><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><a href=3D"h= ttp://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div> </div></div> --90e6ba6e815a26d69d0517d62213--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 20741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2015 06:49:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 06 02:49:56 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Z17vX-0003mV-VU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 02:49:56 -0400 Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:55394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1Z17vV-0003mF-0z for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 02:49:54 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NPI00J00G8RYX00@HIDDEN> for 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:51:50 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NPI00F70GEEJ250@HIDDEN>; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:51:50 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:49:44 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#20741: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period In-reply-to: <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Message-id: <83iob1nxfb.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <87pp5az1u7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83twumnem2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdoiT=vQ2YoW_5v7U0Ax8vdvDm_kd2mVbavTdKcsCr6MCFQ@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20741 Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 22:42:39 +0100 > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> > Cc: 20741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > flyspell marks as incorrect “etc.”, “i.e.”, “e.g.” &c. > > I can reproduce part of this with en_GB, but not with en_US. So I > think it's an issue with the dictionary, not with flyspell or ispell. > > The en_US dictionary contains "etc", which is incorrect. Not that I'm maintaining those dictionaries, but why is it incorrect, in your opinion? It clearly produces the desirable effect, doesn't it? > When I mention OTHERCHARS, I am looking at the documentation for > ispell-dictionary-alist. Indeed, when I change language, and I am using > hunspell, the language definitions seem to be auto-generated. With hunspell, > OTHERCHARS is set to include ".". But indeed, removing it or moving it into > CASECHARS and NOT-CASECHARS still seems not to help, so I'm back to my original > workaround. > > But indeed, apart from when I specifically mentioned customising the > dictionary, I am working with Emacs's default values, not customised at all. > > Thanks very much for your help with this. You are welcome. Does this mean that your problem is solved, and we can close this bug? Or does something still need to be fixed in Emacs?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#20741; Package emacs.
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So I > think it's an issue with the dictionary, not with flyspell or ispell. > The en_US dictionary contains "etc", which is incorrect. What OTHERCHARS are you looking at? In Emacs 24.4 and later, > ispell.el takes that value from the dictionary's .aff file, not from > the internal database. So if you customized ispell-dictionary-alist, > try without those customizations, you shouldn't need them in v24.4. > =E2=80=8BOh dear, after =E2=80=8Bfurther investigation this turns out to be= because Debian overrides ispell.el and flyspell.el with its own patched versions, which predate Emacs 24.4 (they are from 2013). In what follows, I have moved these patched files aside, and am definitely working with just Emacs 24.4's versions! Now, still using hunspell, and having removed "i.e", "e.g" and "etc" from my en_GB spelling list, I get exactly the same highlighting. > > ispell sets my default dictionary to en_GB (from my locale, I presume), > > Yes. But you can override that, if you want. > =E2=80=8BI don't want to override it, it's fine. =E2=80=8BWhen I mention OTHERCHARS, I am looking at the documentation for ispell-dictionary-alist. Indeed, when I change language, and I am using hunspell, the language definitions seem to be auto-generated. With hunspell, OTHERCHARS is set to include ".".=E2=80=8B But indeed, removing i= t or moving it into CASECHARS and NOT-CASECHARS still seems not to help, so I'm back to my original workaround. But indeed, apart from when I specifically mentioned customising the dictionary, I am working with Emacs's default values, not customised at all= . =E2=80=8BThanks very much for your help with this. --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --001a11c31700d5786a0517cc2b2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 5= June 2015 at 20:23, Eli Zaretskii <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<br><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:= 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: Reuben Thomas <<= a href=3D"mailto:rrt@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">rrt@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:06:40 +0100<br> ><br> > flyspell marks as incorrect =E2=80=9Cetc.=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ci.e.=E2= =80=9D, =E2=80=9Ce.g.=E2=80=9D &c.<br> <br> I can reproduce part of this with en_GB, but not with en_US.=C2=A0 So I<br> think it's an issue with the dictionary, not with flyspell or ispell.<b= r></blockquote><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sma= ll">The en_US dictionary contains "etc", which is incorrect.<br><= /div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p= x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> What OTHERCHARS are you looking at?=C2=A0 In Emacs 24.4 and later,<br> ispell.el takes that value from the dictionary's .aff file, not from<br= > the internal database.=C2=A0 So if you customized ispell-dictionary-alist,<= br> try without those customizations, you shouldn't need them in v24.4.<br>= </blockquote><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small= ">=E2=80=8BOh dear, after =E2=80=8Bfurther investigation this turns out to = be because Debian overrides ispell.el and flyspell.el with its own patched = versions, which predate Emacs 24.4 (they are from 2013).<br><br></div><div = class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">In what follows, I have m= oved these patched files aside, and am definitely working with just Emacs 2= 4.4's versions!<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font= -size:small">Now, still using hunspell, and having removed "i.e",= "e.g" and "etc" from my en_GB spelling list, I get exa= ctly the same highlighting.<br></div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail= _quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204= ,204);padding-left:1ex"> > ispell sets my default dictionary to en_GB (from my locale, I presume)= ,<br> <br> Yes.=C2=A0 But you can override that, if you want.<br></blockquote><div><br= ><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=E2=80=8BI don'= t want to override it, it's fine.</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm= ail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=E2=80=8BWhen I mention OTHERCHARS, = I am looking at the documentation for ispell-dictionary-alist. Indeed, when= I change language, and I am using hunspell, the language definitions seem = to be auto-generated. With hunspell, OTHERCHARS is set to include ".&q= uot;.=E2=80=8B But indeed, removing it or moving it into CASECHARS and NOT-= CASECHARS still seems not to help, so I'm back to my original workaroun= d.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">But = indeed, apart from when I specifically mentioned customising the dictionary= , I am working with Emacs's default values, not customised at all.<br><= /div><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=E2=80=8BTh= anks very much for your help with this.<br></div><br>-- <br><div><a href=3D= "http://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div> </div></div> --001a11c31700d5786a0517cc2b2d--
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> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:06:40 +0100
>
> flyspell marks as incorrect “etc.”, “i.e.”, “e.g.” &c.
I can reproduce part of this with en_GB, but not with en_US. So I
think it's an issue with the dictionary, not with flyspell or ispell.
> flyspell is of course behaving as expected: “.” is in OTHERCHARS, and as
> it comes after the word, it is not included.
What OTHERCHARS are you looking at? In Emacs 24.4 and later,
ispell.el takes that value from the dictionary's .aff file, not from
the internal database. So if you customized ispell-dictionary-alist,
try without those customizations, you shouldn't need them in v24.4.
> ispell sets my default dictionary to en_GB (from my locale, I presume),
Yes. But you can override that, if you want.
> I tried to move “.” to CASECHARS and NOT-CASECHARS in a custom
> dictionary definition:
>
> ("en_GB" "[[:alpha:].]" "[^[:alpha:].]" "['0-9’-]" t
> ("-d" "en_GB")
> nil utf-8)
You shouldn't need all that in Emacs 24.4. Try not to customize the
dictionary at all.
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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN>
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Subject: 24.4; flyspell doesn't work with abbreviations ending in a period
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flyspell marks as incorrect =E2=80=9Cetc.=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ci.e.=E2=80=9D,=
=E2=80=9Ce.g.=E2=80=9D &c.
flyspell is of course behaving as expected: =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D is in OTHER=
CHARS, and as
it comes after the word, it is not included.
ispell sets my default dictionary to en_GB (from my locale, I presume),
and I=E2=80=99m using hunspell.
If I run ispell-buffer on a buffer containing the above words, they
pass, which is surprising in that it seems that the OTHERCHARS
specification has not been applied in this case. It is not surprising in
the sense that these definitions are in my dictionary.
The somewhat nonsensical result is that if I run ispell-word on such a
word marked incorrect by flyspell, the first correction offered is the
word I already have, plus a period. If I select it, the net effect is
that an extra period is inserted, and flyspell complains again.
I tried to move =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D to CASECHARS and NOT-CASECHARS in a cus=
tom
dictionary definition:
("en_GB" "[[:alpha:].]" "[^[:alpha:].]" "['0-9=E2=80=99-]" t
("-d" "en_GB")
nil utf-8)
but this causes flyspell to give an error saying it got nil where it
expected a stringp in its post-command-hook. In any case, I guess this
would not do what I wanted without adding an inflexion rule to the
dictionary that allowed any word to add =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D (except, ideall=
y, a word
that already ends in a period).
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utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian
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font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)
Memory information:
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(symbols 48 50761 0)
(miscs 40 267 443)
(strings 32 171824 23445)
(string-bytes 1 5482137)
(vectors 16 49781)
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(heap 1024 62706 2723))
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