Received: (at 22164) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2015 16:55:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 18 11:55:26 2015 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55912 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1a9yJS-00019Y-CO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:55:26 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:61993) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1a9yJQ-00019L-U2 for 22164 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:55:25 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.35]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRoRF-1Zm4hL2puT-00SzXu; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:55:18 +0100 Message-ID: <56743A6E.5040007@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:55:10 +0100 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#22164: 25.0.50; Turning off blinking cursor mode makes menu tooltips behave erratically References: <566DB14B.1030606@HIDDEN> <83vb8243t9.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83vb8243t9.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7gn4g2TeCRy5QOdpGORp0TNr1s8CAGpajAJFw/x18v5zVm/ouHb olCDvuzA4Aq3zHloAvipK38zvc4pXU+X0YOhuXz3PbnXojxTzoeUpk/O2CVhqhaeKGtGkue V5yuIrkMSUH8Ab8eNPe/H3Sb4PvEd2mezqCb/0xExDVbnCKeKmtuZjfOI8Kr5M2JwwDKwCG jwOqa5Q+0QXLldqMGeHBA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:qu7vZzfdiNc=:DDODtEJEFUAprdSXkK5ocq 27c62pVbgGFesAX4UQv8yizXyIzGY7t3BeIk2ejt1zMD47ySdzKcjcb5QxcV1Q8mhCvkounE9 oszG9QJvFWsEIj6+xyJKlA91quXLuoBU2Lb10lX25qoub7t9XPV0nHaTGfTWh1rQkLQTHxA0N nMm/vzLPMg+81/knHMlE6tKiHWnFN3WYVV/ApZjRXrI+zccXMXofgs40beX0qaERw2qQvKwUF q8RLi/osoxm0uVuXKVTcHpXR5l7S8ZgU4MvnmU7bm0EoottjTQt4NawAzMLRP6F0KHJb4OM0b VsYm0aX5y3EvNjDNExG0KmMVDv0iuPjr5KP6fg2x8DqdHEbE9OZVMNl+YkPvGpAqbkPVSFp/p 6FCQaZ77LDG90ZU1BrCMDO1XzgEhHzfp0/YVXoFaQg/3i7X8S3r6II5rSLDkUO4moLwjODQMI ZEHVitEs7FZzf/ZkBovmEO99xTnmCShdUPzQ2yNYJaRee5XkXmK3n3EzlGYNlC6GoBJoLL662 q0RWXm+C9b0kMoxDmHsHqDEzeXIzkdEhyX2TV+zcKQSuGkqU8kdLjdVs4NoX7yZsUR/KZfQLL zk5gRl/qDv5q6IakFg90G2jTOQCgyrGF3HtzfI4oN81ZPjlhIe4DQsw05nwx1axhhe9BQjF82 lJN1ZHVtBzDN3BclkODd3zMqGj6GC2Fs/2tpR9PO5eX/zoMWB0qLpm49XQU2E25b5kgvSw0P3 MnSRaf7pcTrqYfFe8JtZ/wLELZ29/j1z8H4C+OqvT7WeuMHVeWKvzhODarUFNxLPl5seSa7tK qoRpHsliJlH03eD898e/gckEOVS6Q== X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22164 Cc: 22164 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) > It's a known problem, and I don't know how to fix it (if a fix exists > at all). We need redisplay to update the menu tooltips on Windows, > and without the blinking cursor there's no redisplay. So IIUC we would have to run a timer-based function in that case and have it cause a redisplay when the menu bar is active. martin
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With emacs -Q evaluate (blink-cursor-mode -1). Click the "File" entry
on the menu bar. When I now move the mouse from one menu entry to
another it takes approximately 8 seconds until the tooltip is removed
from the previous entry and shown at the current one.
Reproducible at least since Emacs 24.2 and likely a Windows-only bug.
It might be related to this part of =E2=80=98blink-cursor-timer-function=E2=
=80=99
;; Suspend counting blinks when the w32 menu-bar menu is displayed,
;; since otherwise menu tooltips will behave erratically.
(or (and (fboundp 'w32--menu-bar-in-use)
(w32--menu-bar-in-use))
(setq blink-cursor-blinks-done (1+ blink-cursor-blinks-done)))
but I cannot imagine how that can have any effect when cursor blinking
is turned off.
In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
of 2015-12-12
Repository revision: 06f00d39ff73e0c6c87ffb09ef3d67e8d3446b01
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
martin
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