Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 24772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 23:53:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 18:53:39 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1cWAuA-0003AI-OC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:53:38 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:52011) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1cWAu9-0003AB-Tj for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:53:38 -0500 Received: from 2.150.49.21.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.49.21] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1cWAu6-0007Yt-SR; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:53:37 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww References: <87h983dtry.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a8dvnmot.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87efzsmaux.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k29k9g76.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:53:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k29k9g76.fsf@HIDDEN> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:43:57 +0100") Message-ID: <87lgu0aubr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24772 Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) =C3=93scar Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN> writes: >> The page displays well for me on the Emacs trunk with eww. > > Are you executing Emacs as a daemon? No, I'm not. I didn't read the rest of the thread closely; sorry. :-) --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24772; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 24772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 23:44:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 18:44:14 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41126 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1cWAl0-0001EC-FQ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:44:13 -0500 Received: from relaycp01.dominioabsoluto.net ([217.116.26.68]:38562) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ofv@HIDDEN>) id 1cWAkv-0001DX-CL for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:44:09 -0500 Received: from smtp.movistar.es (smtp22.acens.net [86.109.99.146]) by relaycp01.dominioabsoluto.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7674428; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:43:58 +0100 (CET) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0204.5887E6BE.00DB, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from qcore (88.24.252.251) by smtp.movistar.es (8.6.122.03) (authenticated as 981711563$telefonica.net) id 5842486F03D983A3; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:43:52 +0000 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= <ofv@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww References: <87h983dtry.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a8dvnmot.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87efzsmaux.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 00:43:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87efzsmaux.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:00:54 +0100") Message-ID: <87k29k9g76.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24772 Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: >> It happens with this, for instance: >> >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24772 > > Is this still a problem for you? Yes. > The page displays well for me on the Emacs trunk with eww. Are you executing Emacs as a daemon?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24772; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 24772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 21:01:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 16:01:06 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40848 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1cW8DC-0006aI-Ju for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:01:06 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:49349) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1cW8DA-0006YJ-SS for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:01:05 -0500 Received: from 2.150.49.21.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.49.21] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1cW8D5-0005qQ-VY; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:01:02 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww References: <87h983dtry.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a8dvnmot.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:00:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Sun, 23 Oct 2016 17:51:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87efzsmaux.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24772 Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) =C3=93scar Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN> writes: >>> The new homoglyph face introduced in >>> c06a518b5b0706509252abb03875867b10a92fc7 is being used for displaying >>> characters in Gnu and eww buffers. Those characters look like sore >>> thumbs, very displeasing. >> >> Could you please mention a couple of Web pages where you see this? > > It happens with this, for instance: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D24772 Is this still a problem for you? The page displays well for me on the Emacs trunk with eww. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24772; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 24772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2016 19:13:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 23 15:13:35 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49862 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1byOD8-0007oW-Sw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:13:35 -0400 Received: from relaycp01.dominioabsoluto.net ([217.116.26.68]:42206) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ofv@HIDDEN>) id 1byOD6-0007oI-Gd for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:13:33 -0400 Received: from smtp.movistar.es (smtp22.acens.net [86.109.99.146]) by relaycp01.dominioabsoluto.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363F7430B; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 21:13:26 +0200 (CEST) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0204.580D0BD6.0034, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from qcore (217.125.182.189) by smtp.movistar.es (8.6.122.03) (authenticated as 981711563$telefonica.net) id 57A446BD03F1E2BF; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 19:13:23 +0000 From: ofv@HIDDEN (=?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes) To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww References: <87h983dtry.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a8dvnmot.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> <878ttfdnqq.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y41fm2qm.fsf@HIDDEN> <3caa44bb-c8e8-c6b9-b9c8-3a268c67a9d2@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 21:13:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3caa44bb-c8e8-c6b9-b9c8-3a268c67a9d2@HIDDEN> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:47 -0700") Message-ID: <874m42ev56.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24772 Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> writes: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Each window can have its own display table. > > Yes, that sounds like the right fix, though it'll take some work. > > Alternatively, =C3=93scar, perhaps you could give me hints about how to > change startup--setup-quote-display so that it guesses the right way > for your setup. I expect this will be simpler. There is nothing special about my setup. `emacs --daemon' is executed when my destkop environment (KDE) starts, and that's it. I guess the problem is reproducible simply with: $ emacs --daemon -Q $ emacsclient -c -n M-x eww http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D24772 I could hack startup--setup-quote-display to detect that there is a graphical environment present, but then the substitution would fail when a frame is created from a text terminal (while remotely accessing the server from ssh or from a Linux virtual terminal on the same machine.) We all agree that the correct way is to use an specific display table for the characteristics of each terminal. Until the proper fix is implemented, it is up to you to decide if the feature deserves to be disabled (I can put the workaround on my config file, so no hurry here.)
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Full text available.Received: (at 24772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2016 18:48:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 23 14:48:56 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1byNpH-0007Ck-Uq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:48:56 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:58512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1byNpG-0007CQ-35 for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:48:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9D5160F83; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 1jhUa0kngnMu; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB4D16100A; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id pvXIj1s0vxbO; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.178.162]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FEFC160F83; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?=c3=93scar_Fuentes?= <ofv@HIDDEN> References: <87h983dtry.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a8dvnmot.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> <878ttfdnqq.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y41fm2qm.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <3caa44bb-c8e8-c6b9-b9c8-3a268c67a9d2@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:48:47 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83y41fm2qm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24772 Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Each window can have its own display table. Yes, that sounds like the right fix, though it'll take some work. Alternatively, =C3=93scar, perhaps you could give me hints about how to c= hange=20 startup--setup-quote-display so that it guesses the right way for your se= tup. I=20 expect this will be simpler.
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Full text available.Received: (at 24772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2016 16:47:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 23 12:47:41 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1byLvx-0002YG-Cu for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:47:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1byLvv-0002Y4-Qw for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:47:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1byLvq-0007u9-0L for 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:47:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1byLvp-0007u5-Sr; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:47:33 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3197 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1byLvp-0002JQ-7D; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:47:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 19:47:29 +0300 Message-Id: <83y41fm2qm.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <878ttfdnqq.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93sca?= =?utf-8?Q?r?= Fuentes on Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:38:37 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww References: <87h983dtry.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a8dvnmot.fsf@HIDDEN> <87d1irdpwq.fsf@HIDDEN> <878ttfdnqq.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24772 Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) > From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN> > Cc: 24772 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:38:37 +0200 > > Indeed, the problem is that standard-display-table is set by > startup--setup-quote-display when the daemon starts and it is used for > all terminals. > > This model seems wrong. An Emacs server can have several terminals. We > need a substitution table (an standard-display-table) for each terminal, > don't we? Each window can have its own display table. I suggested to use this back when Paul implemented this feature.
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Subject: Re: bug#24772: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: =C3=93scar Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:28:17 +0200
>>=20
>>=20
>> The new homoglyph face introduced in
>> c06a518b5b0706509252abb03875867b10a92fc7 is being used for displaying
>> characters in Gnu and eww buffers. Those characters look like sore
>> thumbs, very displeasing.
>
> Could you please mention a couple of Web pages where you see this?
It happens with this, for instance:
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D24772
> Also, do you see something different in 25.1.50?
Right now emacs-25 fails to compile with
Processing OKURI-NASI entries ...
processed 10% ...
processed 20% ...
Args out of range: #("=E3=81=AD /=E9=BB=92" 0 4 (charset japanese-jisx0208)=
), -5, nil
Makefile:142: recipe for target '../../emacs/leim/../lisp/leim/ja-dic/ja-di=
c.el' failed
make[2]: *** [../../emacs/leim/../lisp/leim/ja-dic/ja-dic.el] Error 255
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/oscar/dev/emacs/build/leim'
Makefile:320: recipe for target 'leim' failed
make[1]: *** [leim] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/oscar/dev/emacs/build/lisp'
Makefile:385: recipe for target 'lisp' failed
make: *** [lisp] Error 2
I can seek a good revision if that's important. But while trying to
reproduce the bug, I noticed that emacs -Q is not affected, nor a
regular emacs session (that loads my config) but the session I'm running
as a daemon does show the problem. I think that that is the real
trigger. Can you try visiting the web page above with a daemonized emacs
on GNU/Linux? Or can you tell me what data to inspect to know if Emacs
decided to show those chars on a translated form when the daemon
started?
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Subject: 26.0.50; homoglyph face is used in Gnus, eww
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:28:17 +0200
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The new homoglyph face introduced in
c06a518b5b0706509252abb03875867b10a92fc7 is being used for displaying
characters in Gnu and eww buffers. Those characters look like sore
thumbs, very displeasing.
I have no idea why the curly things are being replaced. I'm using a
graphics terminal (X on GNU/Linux). This is describe-char from a eww
buffer:
position: 426 of 6337 (7%), column: 143
character: =E2=80=98 (displayed as =E2=80=98) (codepoint 8216, =
#o20030, #x2018)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x2018
script: symbol
syntax: . which means: punctuation
category: .:Base, <:Not at eol, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese
to input: type "C-x 8 RET 2018" or "C-x 8 RET LEFT SINGLE QUOT=
ATION MARK"
buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x98
file code: #xE2 #x80 #x98 (encoded by coding system raw-text-un=
ix)
display: by display table entry [?`] (see below)
The display table entry is displayed by these fonts (glyph codes):
`: xft:-PfEd-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-19-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x=
43)
face: =E2=80=98homoglyph=E2=80=99
Character code properties: customize what to show
name: LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
old-name: SINGLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
general-category: Pi (Punctuation, Initial quote)
decomposition: (8216) ('=E2=80=98')
There are text properties here:
face variable-pitch
Another one, with a different font, from a Gnus Summary buffer:
position: 1484 of 13282 (11%), column: 35
character: =E2=80=9C (displayed as =E2=80=9C) (codepoint 8220, =
#o20034, #x201c)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x201C
script: symbol
syntax: . which means: punctuation
category: .:Base, <:Not at eol, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese
to input: type "C-x 8 RET 201c" or "C-x 8 RET LEFT DOUBLE QUOT=
ATION MARK"
buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x9C
file code: #xE2 #x80 #x9C (encoded by coding system nil)
display: by display table entry [?"] (see below)
The display table entry is displayed by these fonts (glyph codes):
": xft:-MS -Consolas-normal-normal-normal-*-19-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x251)
face: =E2=80=98homoglyph=E2=80=99
Character code properties: customize what to show
name: LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
old-name: DOUBLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
general-category: Pi (Punctuation, Initial quote)
decomposition: (8220) ('=E2=80=9C')
There are text properties here:
face gnus-summary-normal-ancient
gnus-number 14350
In GNU Emacs 26.0.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
of 2016-10-21 built on qcore
Repository revision: 0929e061fb544c0f4c10ff0412a41cf7e8148270
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000
System Description: Ubuntu 16.10
Configured using:
'configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid'
Configured features:
XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG SOUND GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2
FREETYPE XFT ZLIB LUCID X11
Important settings:
value of $LANG: C
locale-coding-system: nil
Óscar Fuentes <ofv@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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