Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2022 07:59:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 10 02:59:34 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53693 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1nI4MY-0004yG-Ao for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 02:59:34 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1nI4MX-0004xx-3y for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 02:59:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uZPTUXiPEybMp9EnHfDI/Cwel3mwfJAnTNGAwoIkrjY=; b=pgAzVwMhDR87myk4nOIby2Dlwz VRCNCSoMral+eP34MVfM3smPeO+o/421OS02DiqKmbhhHbUyYzUMkKkPDGVkfm1bJCJQvu3uWvykj vdAth55gR6ewhnHYag3nz4OQfYxxNv6SKeKcl2yplrN/XYJYOyHxreDRjOaYLM6rclCw=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1nI4MO-0004D2-Fy; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 08:59:27 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> X-Now-Playing: Melanie de Biasio's _No Deal remixed_: "I'm Gonna Leave You (The Cinematic Orchestra Remix)" Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 08:59:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> (Tino Calancha's message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2017 00:59:31 +0900") Message-ID: <874k57cftw.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> writes: > emacs -r -Q -l em-ls -l esh-cmd -eval "(customize-set-variable 'eshell-ls-use-in-dired t)" > > M-: (dired source-directory "-lg") RET > ; ; Signal eshell-interactive-output-p: (wrong-type-argument ar [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: john wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN>, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> writes: > emacs -r -Q -l em-ls -l esh-cmd -eval "(customize-set-variable 'eshell-ls-use-in-dired t)" > > M-: (dired source-directory "-lg") RET > ;; Signal eshell-interactive-output-p: (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > > It fails because eshell-current-handles is nil. > Even if this variable is set, then (throw 'eshell-external ... > in `eshell--do-opts' won't be catched. This bug is still present in Emacs 29. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#27919; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 17:37:28 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 04 13:37:28 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ddgXQ-0008L2-Jp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:44648) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1ddgXN-0008Ko-MS for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:37:26 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v74HbJfU000424 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:37:19 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v74HbI9r015328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:37:18 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v74HbH0q000419; Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:37:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <460a637e-5d66-4ff2-a3de-6c81335c55cd@default> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails References: <<87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc>> <<m2tw1pzt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708031207010.2229@calancha-pc> <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2y3r02uld.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<83k22jyiko.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2tw1nuuvq.fsf@HIDDEN>> <<83shh7w8le.fsf@HIDDEN>> In-Reply-To: <<83shh7w8le.fsf@HIDDEN>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6770.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: calancha@HIDDEN, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > Does ls-lisp provide more than just dired-suited output? >=20 > Not really. But it has options like ls-lisp-dirs-first, > ls-lisp-ignore-case, ls-lisp-format-time-list, and > ls-lisp-use-localized-time-format. And such options are also supported by libraries such as `dired-sort-menu.el' (also by Francis J. Wright). https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DiredSortMenu
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Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 17:23:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 04 13:23:35 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42016 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ddgJy-0007zT-Vo for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:23:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50299) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddgJx-0007zH-71 for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:23:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddgJr-0003c0-8e for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:23:28 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddgJk-0003W9-Ro; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:23:20 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4677 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddgJj-00065X-Uh; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:23:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 20:23:09 +0300 Message-Id: <83shh7w8le.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <m2tw1nuuvq.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from John Wiegley on Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:05:07 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> <m2tw1pzt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708031207010.2229@calancha-pc> <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN> <vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2y3r02uld.fsf@HIDDEN> <83k22jyiko.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2tw1nuuvq.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: calancha@HIDDEN, rgm@HIDDEN, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> > Cc: rgm@HIDDEN, calancha@HIDDEN, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@HIDDEN > Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:05:07 -0700 > > Does ls-lisp provide more than just dired-suited output? Not really. But it has options like ls-lisp-dirs-first, ls-lisp-ignore-case, ls-lisp-format-time-list, and ls-lisp-use-localized-time-format.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#27919; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 17:05:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 04 13:05:19 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ddg2J-0007Zb-18 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:05:19 -0400 Received: from mail-pg0-f51.google.com ([74.125.83.51]:32838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jwiegley@HIDDEN>) id 1ddg2H-0007ZO-C2 for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:05:18 -0400 Received: by mail-pg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id u5so10275645pgn.0 for <27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:05:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=7dbSY3lEaR7+hU92Q+xPxLFv5FRwJZMhmdhctIg5fc8=; b=ibFV/S8z1MJp/FRxF7xcTJmZW4SCWuUNAOHyfUblguaYEUzLA9ZW58cB5Sgpz3Ikw2 iEnlz4ZvgDn8D1iI7Wpd3a/bc0AFfgXK2Illj1ihYunlNchD1akug0oomz1pGW9EWeth k48Z55hgR9jcw132YTIAygLdhSaozW1+MpAi+/YX7PGwFODDMAnfNWAnQEq4qr75GpbB 8IU2YMl+iAaSdxD0nyWHKIxMDVR8Y2HQzRoJZ7fC1t0DLLkM/hq4xWEDl8E/BljsDuUK 7IRoizWmYlAtPDe7vw5mggWDFWYBpfQwNNpN8/fIkvc4ISrhunnGP7Y3eX8D6GrbFHDj wFaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=7dbSY3lEaR7+hU92Q+xPxLFv5FRwJZMhmdhctIg5fc8=; b=XjJ0LH3nTVYpVuHkd++xnq06TxKK8/usW294y+9OG4Nv9Qisw/c2g8kYUSleSumIkt 89QRNDuSHgxb/AofoHtwF+cjOAuM/lF94s5n6C5y6+9pHsf7HdaXjD42gs6ocNJ/X8Rt lb+unqpmDyALArJh+mDuVZLk/vn7cRzj1T166A327aeLeghgRwxhN8zhZrsgl9EObxyY n7oJAKocFp0n3d/UOmEswmEc8UMHiJeq+gPTzOCXlHBd7ArOH5ct9/ojwNKPMFkw6F3t 02WfV/ZFhWmMx7pyajAlsjEQ3OkowGGCRdggK9ltLfTgUnzVO6CL7PnIDKbNMziXaJxx tSkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111cH7Q4vngfy3UTl6O+0eytIw5DDgYGClZb/79sJ/ojk5xGpXFH 8B2oEX3CCsCpwJV9ir8= X-Received: by 10.98.10.206 with SMTP id 75mr3122333pfk.132.1501866311079; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f15sm3399155pga.5.2017.08.04.10.05.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" <johnw@HIDDEN> Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C8283734E5B2; Fri, 4 Aug 2017 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails In-Reply-To: <83k22jyiko.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:04:39 +0300") Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: <m2tw1nuuvq.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> <m2tw1pzt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708031207010.2229@calancha-pc> <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN> <vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2y3r02uld.fsf@HIDDEN> <83k22jyiko.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/25.2.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: calancha@HIDDEN, rgm@HIDDEN, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) >>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Because (a) it's much smaller than Eshell, so better suited for something > that's preloaded; and (b) it supports quite a few options that Eshell > doesn't, AFAIK, and which Windows users might expect to be available, as > they are available in "other file-system browsers". I wonder then how hard it would be to adapt Eshell to use ls-lisp. Does ls-lisp provide more than just dired-suited output? eshell/ls tries hard to be pretty at the shell prompt too. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2
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Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 06:05:05 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 04 02:05:05 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ddVjN-0005Hm-DH for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:05:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40377) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddVjM-0005HG-7Y for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:05:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddVjG-0003qD-8l for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:04:59 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddVjA-0003hM-Pf; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:04:52 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4199 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ddVj8-0002d7-VN; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:04:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:04:39 +0300 Message-Id: <83k22jyiko.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <m2y3r02uld.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from John Wiegley on Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:14 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> <m2tw1pzt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708031207010.2229@calancha-pc> <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN> <vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2y3r02uld.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: calancha@HIDDEN, rgm@HIDDEN, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:14 -0700 > Cc: Tino Calancha <calancha@HIDDEN>, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, > Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> > > If anything, why not get rid of ls-lisp? Because (a) it's much smaller than Eshell, so better suited for something that's preloaded; and (b) it supports quite a few options that Eshell doesn't, AFAIK, and which Windows users might expect to be available, as they are available in "other file-system browsers". I actually think that getting rid of any of these two is not a good idea, but that's me.
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Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2017 21:46:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 03 17:46:25 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ddNwm-0002Fm-UP for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:46:25 -0400 Received: from mail-pf0-f175.google.com ([209.85.192.175]:34202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jwiegley@HIDDEN>) id 1ddNwl-0002Fa-JN for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:46:24 -0400 Received: by mail-pf0-f175.google.com with SMTP id o86so11234740pfj.1 for <27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=PlHFk0g5/BooLifWhbXigt0isFQqQZQxhEstblxvQX8=; b=VrI7C19E0qmasvedwknmFH9iv+1qQ92FFmTIUayhZzbEfWQpKpLQfLHD/wYAbHVFZg yMn/3FMg7RkpZmEsGMpwLD0fb/xsS9ZrtAu9Jm8ODlPLkoBpBqcMiKodLL7TrrLSOtwj ub6jtbhUKbIs9mUwYJ18U6wJteUVyOlkO4smJJcv3POe3RzGRUsvS2oJXsBmBYm3Zvue jMdx0wILDN+VlPI/eSiokecCTfyswsgQATwH3FqeJGrOYBAkZgvEijU7GND8PmY9m5Sb z9ptcGqyAGpxLolCGV4x3QNBmGRnr6NyC45itBHZf7IS7G0wl7fYRZKAyxw1Rm2SdcL7 h1yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=PlHFk0g5/BooLifWhbXigt0isFQqQZQxhEstblxvQX8=; b=Z9nERKUJ0vu+gCWxUIv64B7O5vgiulZ/jQrlOJzbu/Nns5NyVia5ee5DWxwH6aK8D6 j3GjCEhANtfQY4wV5iO65Ryv81Z9j8jhQw2QzTGfth44y3UnBr46W/WuVRKcajb2WmzR qmVhb5s2Sj9XH3WpscqgqUh//tv5CpkPIjEuejvqxmFxZDvZWQ3g0cVuQm38bD87vprx OkBofAtdjPhDHc0k6a/RRr+MfJb5sE2RGcUwNJyA2jNAzLK0t8OKx9T5/rymZUfrpXxw rccPshHoPj7WymUFD8fmCoLCkFeH/0tAc00UEoMJ/3N+lsaImGysGnj6ExRrH/kIgJZd wvoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110NdKUc+XkmWLSmXwEvq3FdYmPjvm3+8baJuH/ZasArRTzNALrm F0Dp2BXX3qhfrPWawZg= X-Received: by 10.98.223.151 with SMTP id d23mr246674pfl.108.1501796777504; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d135sm63608550pga.6.2017.08.03.14.46.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" <johnw@HIDDEN> Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7F0D972C5299; Thu, 3 Aug 2017 14:46:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails In-Reply-To: <vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:31 -0400") Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:46:14 -0700 Message-ID: <m2y3r02uld.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> <m2tw1pzt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708031207010.2229@calancha-pc> <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN> <vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/25.2.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: Tino Calancha <calancha@HIDDEN>, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) >>>>> Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> writes: > Why is it desirable to use eshell ls with dired instead of ls-lisp? Maybe it > would be better to remove it rather than fix it. (It usually goes well when > I suggest this...) I like it more than ls-lisp, and it pays attention to all the same options you can use to configure eshell/ls at the Eshell command-line. If anything, why not get rid of ls-lisp? -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#27919; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 27919) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2017 21:35:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 03 17:35:46 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40444 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ddNmU-00020X-K0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49741) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1ddNmT-00020I-Gn for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1ddNmN-0007of-Kd for 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1ddNmG-0007hy-Mw; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:32 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1ddNmG-0002TN-3i; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:32 -0400 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#27919: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails References: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> <m2tw1pzt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1708031207010.2229@calancha-pc> <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: Federal Emergency Management Agency Tamil Tigers Service X-Ran: ~,0MkPYf?1|3}H[w^BaD?:u?}BpZ-DZX8<vJ)Jug}jeyYEfd-Lj=bGw4K3IwWZ3.C@X,g% X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <m2fud8a3q2.fsf@HIDDEN> (John Wiegley's message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:47:01 -0700") Message-ID: <vld18cnxlo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27919 Cc: Tino Calancha <calancha@HIDDEN>, 27919 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) John Wiegley wrote: >> I think an user who want to set `eshell-ls-use-in-dired' non-nil is likely >> someone with no external 'ls' installed. > > I added eshell-ls-use-in-dired long ago, to support a Windows machine I was > working on. At least the bug report now makes much more sense, thank you. Why is it desirable to use eshell ls with dired instead of ls-lisp? Maybe it would be better to remove it rather than fix it. (It usually goes well when I suggest this...)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#27919; Package emacs.
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[101.128.224.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p126sm53429764pfp.28.2017.08.02.08.59.34 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 02 Aug 2017 08:59:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 25.2.50; dired + eshell-ls: fallback to external ls fails Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 00:59:31 +0900 Message-ID: <87lgn2vu3g.fsf@calancha-pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-CC: John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN> emacs -r -Q -l em-ls -l esh-cmd -eval "(customize-set-variable 'eshell-ls-use-in-dired t)" M-: (dired source-directory "-lg") RET ;; Signal eshell-interactive-output-p: (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) It fails because eshell-current-handles is nil. Even if this variable is set, then (throw 'eshell-external ... in `eshell--do-opts' won't be catched. The following works: M-x eshell RET ls -lg (eval source-directory) RET In GNU Emacs 25.2.50.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11) of 2017-08-03 built on calancha-pc Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.1 (stretch)
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