GNU bug report logs - #354
"Added (how many lines, bytes?!) to file.txt"

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: jidanni <at> jidanni.org; dated Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:30:07 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org.

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> Since append-to-file takes buffer positions as arguments, I think
> the most relevant unit to report would be characters.

Definitely.

Both could be mentioned, however: (2614 chars, 104 lines).
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> Since append-to-file takes buffer positions as arguments, I think
> the most relevant unit to report would be characters.

Definitely.

Both could be mentioned, however: (2614 chars, 104 lines).
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jidanni <at> jidanni.org wrote:
> Gentlemen, (I sound like Prince's "Partyman" song)
> I noticed all append-to-file says is
> "Added to /var/neurdsbeurg.txt".
> 
> The problem is often the user thinks "good, thanks", when days later
> he discovers few or no lines got added, that's right, even 0 bytes
> will produce the same message. You see often we are not fully aware of
> the extent of our regions, colored or not, especially when extending
> off the screen.
> 
> Therefore I propose you change that message to say instead how many
> line or bytes or characters or both or all three were copied over.

Since append-to-file takes buffer positions as arguments, I think
the most relevant unit to report would be characters.

> All this of course also applies to write-region.

-- 
Kevin Rodgers
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severity 354 wishitem
thanks

> Gentlemen, (I sound like Prince's "Partyman" song)
> I noticed all append-to-file says is
> "Added to /var/neurdsbeurg.txt".

> The problem is often the user thinks "good, thanks", when days later
> he discovers few or no lines got added, that's right, even 0 bytes
> will produce the same message. You see often we are not fully aware of
> the extent of our regions, colored or not, especially when extending
> off the screen.

> Therefore I propose you change that message to say instead how many
> line or bytes or characters or both or all three were copied over.

That sounds like a good idea.  I think you may even be able to provide
a patch for it.  The relevant code is at the very end of the
Fwrite_region function in emacs/src/fileio.c.


        Stefan
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Gentlemen, (I sound like Prince's "Partyman" song)
I noticed all append-to-file says is
"Added to /var/neurdsbeurg.txt".

The problem is often the user thinks "good, thanks", when days later
he discovers few or no lines got added, that's right, even 0 bytes
will produce the same message. You see often we are not fully aware of
the extent of our regions, colored or not, especially when extending
off the screen.

Therefore I propose you change that message to say instead how many
line or bytes or characters or both or all three were copied over.

All this of course also applies to write-region.
Acknowledgement sent to jidanni <at> jidanni.org:
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bug#354; Package emacs. Full text available.
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