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Full text available.Received: (at unknown) by unknown; unknown X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 400) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jun 2008 21:30:36 +0000 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com (agminet01.oracle.com [141.146.126.228]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CLUWjf030856 for <400 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:30:34 -0700 Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m5CLUQtL011583; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:30:26 -0500 Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m5CF5YSM001170; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:30:25 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3693126701213306119; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:28:39 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:28:39 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> To: "'martin rudalics'" <rudalics <at> gmx.at>, <400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Cc: <emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org> References: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> <485192DA.9030106 <at> gmx.at> Subject: RE: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:28:44 -0700 Message-ID: <00a401c8ccd3$4ad778a0$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <485192DA.9030106 <at> gmx.at> Thread-Index: AcjM0k71TRSM0FpRQWetkJNsANCnygAAMVCg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE > Look at what I did in `info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol'. Not that I'm > particularly proud of it. Maybe you can find a cleaner solution. I don't know where that is. In any case, I don't care how it's done, but it would be good to do this, if possible.
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Full text available.Received: (at unknown) by unknown; unknown X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jun 2008 21:30:48 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CLUjTZ031113 for <submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:30:46 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:54703 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>) id 1K6uLZ-00008A-7R for emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:28:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>) id 1K6uNT-0004SM-BF for emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:30:44 -0400 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:31015) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>) id 1K6uNS-0004S8-W7 for emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:30:39 -0400 Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m5CLUQtL011583; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:30:26 -0500 Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m5CF5YSM001170; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:30:25 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3693126701213306119; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:28:39 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:28:39 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> To: "'martin rudalics'" <rudalics <at> gmx.at>, <400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Cc: <emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org> References: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> <485192DA.9030106 <at> gmx.at> Subject: RE: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:28:44 -0700 Message-ID: <00a401c8ccd3$4ad778a0$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <485192DA.9030106 <at> gmx.at> Thread-Index: AcjM0k71TRSM0FpRQWetkJNsANCnygAAMVCg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 > Look at what I did in `info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol'. Not that I'm > particularly proud of it. Maybe you can find a cleaner solution. I don't know where that is. In any case, I don't care how it's done, but it would be good to do this, if possible.
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Full text available.Received: (at unknown) by unknown; unknown X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 400) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jun 2008 21:20:17 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id m5CLKCHJ027898 for <400 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:20:14 -0700 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Jun 2008 21:20:05 -0000 Received: from 62-47-45-117.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.45.117]) [62.47.45.117] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 12 Jun 2008 23:20:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18ZslsGaMYZ+q3bPc8Q+WdL5XI9/PSj1X7PDzrCie XMpW1bXv+BwVz+ Message-ID: <485192DA.9030106 <at> gmx.at> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:19:22 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, 400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org CC: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize References: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 > M-x customize-option Info-hide-note-references > > Put the cursor on the unlispified option name: > Info Hide Note References. > > C-h v > > The option name is not picked up as the default value. All commands, > such as `describe-variable', that ask the user to input a variable > name should use the lispified name as the default value: > Info-hide-note-references, in this case. > > The way this should be treated generally is that `Info Hide Note > References' should simply be the _displayed form_ of the > variable. Under the covers, Emacs should always see the true variable > name. Look at what I did in `info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol'. Not that I'm particularly proud of it. Maybe you can find a cleaner solution.
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Full text available.Received: (at unknown) by unknown; unknown X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jun 2008 21:20:18 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CLKEgk028176 for <submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:20:15 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:54202) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <rudalics <at> gmx.at>) id 1K6uBO-00085n-Hh for emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:18:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <rudalics <at> gmx.at>) id 1K6uDK-0003Fr-61 for emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:20:13 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:54878) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <rudalics <at> gmx.at>) id 1K6uDJ-0003FR-Nm for emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:20:10 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Jun 2008 21:20:05 -0000 Received: from 62-47-45-117.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.45.117]) [62.47.45.117] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 12 Jun 2008 23:20:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18ZslsGaMYZ+q3bPc8Q+WdL5XI9/PSj1X7PDzrCie XMpW1bXv+BwVz+ Message-ID: <485192DA.9030106 <at> gmx.at> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:19:22 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, 400 <at> debbugs.gnu.org CC: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize References: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382 <at> us.oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 > M-x customize-option Info-hide-note-references > > Put the cursor on the unlispified option name: > Info Hide Note References. > > C-h v > > The option name is not picked up as the default value. All commands, > such as `describe-variable', that ask the user to input a variable > name should use the lispified name as the default value: > Info-hide-note-references, in this case. > > The way this should be treated generally is that `Info Hide Note > References' should simply be the _displayed form_ of the > variable. Under the covers, Emacs should always see the true variable > name. Look at what I did in `info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol'. Not that I'm particularly proud of it. Maybe you can find a cleaner solution.
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