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Subject: Re: bug#4008: 23.1; missing menus in mac os x build when using synergy
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Synergy is a program that sends mouse/keyboard commands through TCP/IP
from a "server" to a "client". So, in fact, it's just my secondary
desktop machine running GNU/Linux (ubuntu), that sends it's input to
the synergy client running on my Mac, which inserts those into it's
own input stream.
The fault could very possibly be with synergy, or how it's putting
it's events into the Mac's queue, but in the 2 or 3 years I've been
running synergy I have yet to see this behaviour.
-greg
On 3-Aug-09, at 9:17 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> My mac is a synergy client of a linux server
>
> Do you mean a server running GNU/Linux? Please don't call it a "Linux
> server" -- that means giving the system's principal developer none of
> the credit. (See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html.)
>
> What is a "synergy client"?
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Synergy is a program that sends mouse/keyboard commands through TCP/IP
from a "server" to a "client". So, in fact, it's just my secondary
desktop machine running GNU/Linux (ubuntu), that sends it's input to
the synergy client running on my Mac, which inserts those into it's
own input stream.
The fault could very possibly be with synergy, or how it's putting
it's events into the Mac's queue, but in the 2 or 3 years I've been
running synergy I have yet to see this behaviour.
-greg
On 3-Aug-09, at 9:17 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> My mac is a synergy client of a linux server
>
> Do you mean a server running GNU/Linux? Please don't call it a "Linux
> server" -- that means giving the system's principal developer none of
> the credit. (See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html.)
>
> What is a "synergy client"?
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My mac is a synergy client of a linux server
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Subject: 23.1; missing menus in mac os x build when using synergy
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My mac is a synergy client of a linux server (both client/server are
version 1.3.1, protocol version 1.3)
http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
When I start up Emacs.app (23.1) (or the Aquamacs.app 2.0 preview),
while using synergy, the File/Edit/Options... etc, menus are all
missing any items whatsoever.
If I first use my native keyboard/mouse to view the menus, they
appear, and then continue to appear for the inputs coming through the
synergy client.
-greg
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