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Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov
2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME.  That's
a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant.

In more detail:

To configure the alert sound, I first open GNOME Settings by clicking on
the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's
top bar.  From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to
the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for
the "Alert Sound".

For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember
my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my
selected choice.  However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is
actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs.

Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once
a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was
being used as my alert sound.  Each time, I was able to fix it by going
back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my
preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured
alert sound).  Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer
works.

If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I
would be grateful.

       Mark




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Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skriver:

> Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov
> 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME.  That's
> a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant.

There were not a lot of GNOME-related changes in that merge.  From a
quick glance of...

  git shortlog --format='%h %s' --no-merges -n fe5c9051cc..e827f40479

...a likely culprit is:

  62df18d305 gnu: dconf: Update to 0.36.0.

Can you check if reverting it makes a difference?

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Hi Mark,

On +2020-12-07 18:36:10 -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov
> 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME.  That's
> a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant.
>
I find it annoying too -- thanks for nudging me to change it ;)

It looks like a brute force "fix" -- while waiting for a proper one --  would be
to substitute another ogg file for drip.ogg.
(or just switch the names on drip.ogg and sonar.ogg, if you don't want to fiddle further).

$ find /usr -iname '*drip*'
/usr/include/X11/dri/xf86driproto.h
/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg
/usr/share/pkgconfig/xf86driproto.pc
/usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/environment/DrippingFaucet.png

]$ file /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/*
/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg:  Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 48000 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0)
/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg:  Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0)
/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/glass.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0)
/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0)


> In more detail:
> 
> To configure the alert sound, I first open GNOME Settings by clicking on
> the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's
> top bar.  From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to
> the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for
> the "Alert Sound".
>
To find where a change of alert sound is stored, a script of mine will
touch a file (~/.wha-time) for later use with find, to find files in a
directory tree modified (-c option) since ~/.wha-time).

So I did "wha -t" to do the touch, chose a new sound in settings, exited, and
then "wha -c ~/" resulted in the following (it echoes the find command just before doing it):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
find /home/bokr/ -cnewer /home/bokr/.wha-time -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ladc --time-style=+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S
drwx------  2 bokr bokr   4096 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/babl
-rw-r--r--  1 bokr bokr    495 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/babl/babl-fishes
drwx------  2 bokr bokr   4096 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/libgweather
-rw-r--r--  1 bokr bokr    687 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/libgweather/soup.cache2
drwxr-xr-x  2 bokr bokr   4096 2020-12-08 07:52:15 /home/bokr/.config/dconf
-rw-r--r--  1 bokr bokr  33852 2020-12-08 07:52:15 /home/bokr/.config/dconf/user
drwx------ 32 bokr bokr   4096 2020-12-08 07:52:25 /home/bokr/.local/share
drwxr-x---  5 bokr bokr   4096 2020-12-08 07:52:12 /home/bokr/.local/share/epiphany
-rw-r--r--  1 bokr bokr    941 2020-12-08 07:52:12 /home/bokr/.local/share/epiphany/bookmarks.gvdb
-rw-r--r--  1 bokr bokr  32768 2020-12-08 07:52:15 /home/bokr/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-776cc71e.log
-rw-------  1 bokr bokr 115799 2020-12-08 07:52:25 /home/bokr/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
drwx------  2 bokr bokr   4096 2020-12-08 07:52:39 /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bokr bokr     47 2020-12-08 07:52:39 /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom/bell-terminal.ogg -> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bokr bokr     47 2020-12-08 07:52:39 /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom/bell-window-system.ogg -> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Apparently my selection of "bark" is stored as links in
    ~/.local/share/sounds/__custom/

Perhaps this is a change of preference persistence method that all parts of
your system have not gotten updated to?

> For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember
> my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my
> selected choice.  However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is
> actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs.
> 
> Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once
> a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was
> being used as my alert sound.  Each time, I was able to fix it by going
> back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my
> preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured
> alert sound).  Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer
> works.
> 
> If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I
> would be grateful.
> 
>        Mark

You could just make all 4 files dupes of sonar.ogg ;))

I am afraid that kind of "fix" becomes more and more tempting ;/

I still don't know what the proper fix for your observed prolem is, sorry.
But HTH :)

-- 
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Bengt Richter




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Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov
2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME.  That's
a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant.

In more detail:

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the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's
top bar.  From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to
the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for
the "Alert Sound".

For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember
my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my
selected choice.  However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is
actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs.

Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once
a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was
being used as my alert sound.  Each time, I was able to fix it by going
back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my
preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured
alert sound).  Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer
works.

If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I
would be grateful.

       Mark



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Hi Marius and Bengt,

Thanks very much for your suggestions.  I initially tried Marius's idea
to revert the dconf update, which seemed to work, but now I find that
I'm unable to reproduce the problem, even with my original
post-staging-merge system where I first encountered it.

I'm not sure what happened here, but I'm closing this bug.
Sorry for the noise.

        Mark


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Hi Marius and Bengt,

Thanks very much for your suggestions.  I initially tried Marius's idea
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Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov
2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME.  That's
a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant.

In more detail:

To configure the alert sound, I first open GNOME Settings by clicking on
the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's
top bar.  From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to
the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for
the "Alert Sound".

For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember
my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my
selected choice.  However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is
actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs.

Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once
a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was
being used as my alert sound.  Each time, I was able to fix it by going
back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my
preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured
alert sound).  Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer
works.

If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I
would be grateful.

       Mark



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reopen 45109
thanks

Earlier, I wrote:
> I initially tried Marius's idea to revert the dconf update, which
> seemed to work, but now I find that I'm unable to reproduce the
> problem, even with my original post-staging-merge system where I first
> encountered it.

I spoke too soon.  Now the problem is happening again, after another
system upgrade and reboot.  I don't have time right now to investigate
further, but I'm reopening the bug.

     Thanks,
       Mark




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