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>>> > emacs -q
>>> > C-x 8 RET < TAB RET
>>> > completes to "<control>" which inserts \237.
>> What _did_ you expect to see? why would you type `<' to begin with?
> If you just type TAB without the <, you also get <control> first. Which
> doesn't seem very useful, I think.
Maybe it's not very useful (especially since this same name is used for
several characters), but it's what Unicode names characters 0-31 in its
UnicodeData.txt. Should we really bother to do something special for them?
Stefan
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Per Starb=E4ck <per.starback <at> gmail.com> writes:
> emacs -q
> C-x 8 RET < TAB RET
> completes to "<control>" which inserts \237.
>
> I didn't expect "<control>" to be a valid completion there.
>
> The reason is that control characters have "<control>" in the second fiel=
d in
> admin/unidata/UnicodeData.txt (and \237 is the last such character.
>
> Suggestion: Skip the <control> names in unidata-gen-table.
I can confirm that this problem still exists in Emacs 24.
I looked into fixing it, but the code that converts the UnicodeData.txt
into all the .el files look like black magic to me. Or rather -- the
code looks straightforward, but it's somewhat unclear how to actually
run the functions. :-)
For someone who's done it before it's probably a trivial problem to fix.
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emacs -q
C-x 8 RET < TAB RET
completes to "<control>" which inserts \237.
I didn't expect "<control>" to be a valid completion there.
The reason is that control characters have "<control>" in the second field in
admin/unidata/UnicodeData.txt (and \237 is the last such character.
Suggestion: Skip the <control> names in unidata-gen-table.
When I looked around for this I noticed a very minor thing in
ucs-names in mule-cmds.el.
It says
(dotimes-with-progress-reporter (c #xEFFFF)
but I think the limit ought to be #xF0000, which is where Plane 15
starts, since dotimes-with-progress-reporter
has that as an exclusive limit. (In practice it doesn't matter. At
least not for the time being.)
Per Starbäck <per.starback <at> gmail.com>:Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>.
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