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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e7-20020aa798c7000000b0056d98e31439sm9298480pfm.140.2022.11.21.09.50.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Nov 2022 09:50:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ccc9a1f-07b3-e496-0674-4f17eb556154@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 09:50:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> References: <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <4dff4be5-8c53-8d8b-e912-1cf2bb3dff98@HIDDEN> <83k03q7khf.fsf@HIDDEN> <c57d39cc-cd60-6d11-c44b-1c44848f10c8@HIDDEN> <834juu6qfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <e21ace7c-3181-98ad-6683-9d3049786ee3@HIDDEN> <83leo54fjv.fsf@HIDDEN> <Y3s9BlDwLcf8gv22@HIDDEN> <83zgck2zvg.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83zgck2zvg.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 11/21/2022 5:36 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:55:34 +0300 >> From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> >> Cc: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN, >> xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> --funcall is similar as `-e' only limited to single function. So I >> suggest that when you implement that, that --funcall may be used >> also without any file, such as emacsclient -c --funcall my-function >> as that way I can invoke necessary programs. > > This is redundant, since -e already allows that. I don't think there'd be a *problem* if --funcall without a file was allowed. As you say, it's not necessary, since you can already do this with -e, but --funcall with no files has precedent with the regular emacs executable, so I think it'd be reasonable for emacsclient to do it too. It's probably not a big deal either way though, given that emacs and emacsclient already treat options quite differently.
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Full text available.Received: (at 59388) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2022 08:56:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 21 03:56:16 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45357 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ox2bA-0001Jf-Di for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 03:56:16 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:59363) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bugs@HIDDEN>) id 1ox2b6-0001JG-Dc for 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 03:56:12 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.226.1.214]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000F613A.00000000637B3D2C.00002AC7; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 01:56:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:55:34 +0300 From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line Message-ID: <Y3s9BlDwLcf8gv22@HIDDEN> References: <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <4dff4be5-8c53-8d8b-e912-1cf2bb3dff98@HIDDEN> <83k03q7khf.fsf@HIDDEN> <c57d39cc-cd60-6d11-c44b-1c44848f10c8@HIDDEN> <834juu6qfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <e21ace7c-3181-98ad-6683-9d3049786ee3@HIDDEN> <83leo54fjv.fsf@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83leo54fjv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> [2022-11-20 22:01]: > We can invoke functions in the order of --funcall's, but they should run > after visiting the file. Nothing else makes sense, and was never possible > with emacsclient anyway. I use `-e' to open new frame seeking for specific buffer, or invoking specific functions. > So I stand by what I wrote: --funcall'ed functions should run after > visiting FILE. It's not a problem, as you can see from the implementation > of -position in the protocol. --funcall is similar as `-e' only limited to single function. So I suggest that when you implement that, that --funcall may be used also without any file, such as emacsclient -c --funcall my-function as that way I can invoke necessary programs. Though it is not logical to tie a "funcall" to file, file may not be there, or it could be new file, or new frame created, or --funcall can do useful things in the existing server. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id mn23-20020a17090b189700b002187a4dd830sm6086470pjb.46.2022.11.20.11.37.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:37:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3cd2d38d-d6ad-31bc-0126-314a3cdd686b@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:37:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <4dff4be5-8c53-8d8b-e912-1cf2bb3dff98@HIDDEN> <83k03q7khf.fsf@HIDDEN> <c57d39cc-cd60-6d11-c44b-1c44848f10c8@HIDDEN> <834juu6qfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <e21ace7c-3181-98ad-6683-9d3049786ee3@HIDDEN> <83leo54fjv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83leo54fjv.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 11/20/2022 11:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 10:49:10 -0800 >> Cc: gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> >> >>> Then I think I'm okay with adding --funcall to emacsclient, as a solution >>> for this feature request. With the proviso that the named function will be >>> called _after_ visiting the named FILE, right? >> >> Assuming it's possible, I think the most flexible, obvious, and >> consistent[1] way for it to work would be to obey the order of the >> arguments. So "emacsclient --funcall func file.txt" calls func and then >> visits file.txt, whereas "emacsclient file.txt --funcall func" visits >> file.txt and then calls func. > > This won't work, because emacsclient thinks everything after the first FILE > cannot be an option. Which is why +LINE:COLUMN FILE works, although LINE > and COLUMN refer to FILE that comes after it. Ok, then I think your proposal is fine. (Though these surprising differences between how "emacs" and "emacsclient" handle arguments are making me wonder about reimplementing the client, perhaps as "emacs-client" with a hyphen. Maybe it's worth an experiment at least. That obviously doesn't have to happen as part of this bug though.)
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z1-20020a655a41000000b00439c6a4e1ccsm1533051pgs.62.2022.11.20.10.49.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Nov 2022 10:49:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <e21ace7c-3181-98ad-6683-9d3049786ee3@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 10:49:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <4dff4be5-8c53-8d8b-e912-1cf2bb3dff98@HIDDEN> <83k03q7khf.fsf@HIDDEN> <c57d39cc-cd60-6d11-c44b-1c44848f10c8@HIDDEN> <834juu6qfg.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <834juu6qfg.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 11/19/2022 11:22 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:06:14 -0800 >> Cc: gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> >> >> On 11/19/2022 12:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Maybe we don't need to go as far as that discussion led us? Just adding a >>> switch --funcall, to mimic what Emacs has, could be enough? Then we'd be >>> able to say >>> >>> emacsclient -f eob FILE >>> >>> (assuming we also add a function 'eob' to Emacs). >> >> With the caveat that -f is already used for --server-file, I think this >> would be fine. --funcall is a lot simpler to implement than --apply, at >> least from emacsclient. > > Then I think I'm okay with adding --funcall to emacsclient, as a solution > for this feature request. With the proviso that the named function will be > called _after_ visiting the named FILE, right? Assuming it's possible, I think the most flexible, obvious, and consistent[1] way for it to work would be to obey the order of the arguments. So "emacsclient --funcall func file.txt" calls func and then visits file.txt, whereas "emacsclient file.txt --funcall func" visits file.txt and then calls func. The downside of this is that it's a little bit trickier to write an alias for the case in this bug. 'alias edit-end="emacsclient --funcall end-of-buffer"' wouldn't do the right thing. I don't think that's a problem though, since the original proposal had the same limitation: the "+" comes after the file, as in "emacsclient file.txt +". So my suggestion above would work just like the original proposal except that "+" is spelled differently. [1] This is how --funcall works with the regular emacs executable, as far as I can tell.
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y3-20020aa793c3000000b0056d7cc80ea4sm5618890pff.110.2022.11.19.15.06.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:06:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <c57d39cc-cd60-6d11-c44b-1c44848f10c8@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:06:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <4dff4be5-8c53-8d8b-e912-1cf2bb3dff98@HIDDEN> <83k03q7khf.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83k03q7khf.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: gregory@HIDDEN, xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 11/19/2022 12:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 12:08:06 -0800 >> Cc: xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> >> >> 1. Why does --eval do that? You can mix filenames and --eval with the >> regular emacs program: >> >> emacs -Q foo.txt --eval '(message "hi")' >> >> Why doesn't emacsclient work similarly? (On the other hand, changing >> this might break compatibility, so we should be careful here.) > > I don't think we can change the semantics of --eval. Yeah, probably not. I'm not sure how important fixing this inconsistency is, but if we *were* to fix it, I think the least-disruptive would be to add a new option like "emacsclient --eval-one" that behaves like "emacs --eval" and add an obsoletion warning to "emacsclient --eval". Then, after a few versions, make "emacsclient --eval" work like "emacsclient --eval-one". This might be more effort than it's worth though... > Maybe we don't need to go as far as that discussion led us? Just adding a > switch --funcall, to mimic what Emacs has, could be enough? Then we'd be > able to say > > emacsclient -f eob FILE > > (assuming we also add a function 'eob' to Emacs). With the caveat that -f is already used for --server-file, I think this would be fine. --funcall is a lot simpler to implement than --apply, at least from emacsclient.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#59388; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#59388; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 59388) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 20:20:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 19 15:20:51 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41498 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1owUKY-0007wR-LH for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:20:51 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:50462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1owUKW-0007wH-8t for 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:20:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1668889246; bh=i1LelksmLCfaV0KDldjKMY29fTO074Sihbbax027Mc0=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=um7kaFi9cTabfVgLU0HsTS67GSyeOoTQRoQkD+zzXlHSHIGCDJLvOwXVhikQgPRgT yNzYDsLAMHs8e9WngHSVLj2G6MUGOBaLz0xgf6jgfx4B0Xuvlt61MeQyP1yIm56CAr dQEYnsFtvrPDOsUqdgC54xZFwamrukXO8B+869ah71RH14ELn/n1sQ5QHJr8OTSKQE xCPhg/nl08tR2DsofrQ2TQVs88uuQTd2u98FGrlCvTir7qIyCc1OCIHkiFw7jh6dS8 iZo05BsqonTc6HEL/bia0mvP2YWsI44lIE7WhgbW7Vt5jyD9XV8xTr/t3C6TjFSKhT eYV2ML1E4hJuQ== Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:20:46 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line In-Reply-To: <83sfie7n1n.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <518ded72c3ad84c75760@HIDDEN> References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <83y1s67qrg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c3e3303c3aaf@HIDDEN> <83wn7q7q35.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c335e053d1c8@HIDDEN> <83sfie7n1n.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9SwfQXll9v" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --9SwfQXll9v Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii >>> But if we do want to make this easier, I'd go with a new command-line >>> switch, say, "--eob". The Vim way is cryptic and error-prone, so I >>> don't think we should do the same. And I don't see at all why would >>> someone needs to say "N lines from EOF". >> >> One possible use case is "open a log file to look at the last N >> entries". > > Going to EOB displays more than just the last line. > Yes, but point is not on the Nth line counting from EOF. > > And the request was only to be able to go to EOB. > Indeed. Like you I didn't like the Vim way, so I tried to imagine something better. But I don't think TRT here is to add yet another command line switch, when an already existing one can be extended naturally to do the same thing. Anyway, that was just a proposal, somehow I feel you don't like it, so I don't think it's useful to continue arguing. 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On 11/19/2022 10:07 AM, Gregory Heytings wrote:
> Hmmm... I must be missing something. What do you mean? emacsclient
> --eval means "do not visit files but instead evaluate the arguments as
> Emacs Lisp expressions".
I have two thoughts about this:
1. Why does --eval do that? You can mix filenames and --eval with the
regular emacs program:
emacs -Q foo.txt --eval '(message "hi")'
Why doesn't emacsclient work similarly? (On the other hand, changing
this might break compatibility, so we should be careful here.)
2. Assuming we don't change --eval as above, maybe the proposed --apply
option discussed in bug#57752 could work:
emacsclient --apply end-of-buffer -- foo.c
I believe this would even work if you defined a shell alias like so:
alias edit=end="emacsclient --apply end-of-buffer --"
edit-end foo.txt
That said, adding --apply to emacsclient (and emacs, too!) seemed
like a fair bit of work when I looked at it...
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Full text available.Received: (at 59388) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 18:32:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 19 13:32:15 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41111 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1owSdT-00053v-C4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:32:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owSdR-00053i-S4 for 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:32:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owSdM-0006Fk-Da; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:32:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Ra2YTYmMbsylRSKhiDIpk72Ouc86dgjJWfDeriTdplI=; b=E5L3/Sg6iyd2 ZC86P2MNn1JIcFgRZDaAuHLNfH7PZDt1+vS4cFgGFJn5uiLBIaLJVkHFWcEPBRQa2EoGfMDJGCIrI E2HfLD91p/Y5ZrVyFjaaKoD2EPsQ9rs/3LscC55dQdc3X148nM9JnhOa6iZysWrWIHMbUAhsA7yMa tlxW1BUPRnAmOre9U+CZhTGrDLNU1ykKkPRVN+rpKq5UPeWqUCJXVuyEczJuc9XGNIKwnPSEMSq5K 8b1V4tJjugK9QUPG+OLVo/JfdpVKhckk9Knr5U6nrtH65oyu0c4C04suNTs37DitSOSj0V2PBDcqh b3BkKNJVATxq9o1DdRVTjA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owSdL-0005Ls-Ss; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:32:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:32:14 +0200 Message-Id: <83wn7q7q35.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <518ded72c3e3303c3aaf@HIDDEN> (message from Gregory Heytings on Sat, 19 Nov 2022 18:21:26 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <83y1s67qrg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c3e3303c3aaf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 18:21:26 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> > cc: xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Well, to achieve what he wants Janek would have to do something like > > emacsclient --eval '(progn (find-file "FILE") (goto-char (point-max)))' > > And that also means that the default (waiting) mode of emacsclient is not > available. And that is a problem? This use case is explicitly for human use (in contrast to the +LINE:COLUMN FILE case which is for programs that call $EDITOR). And it is a rare use case on top of that. So why typing a few words is a problem, and why does it justify yet another tweak of the UI? But if we do want to make this easier, I'd go with a new command-line switch, say, "--eob". The Vim way is cryptic and error-prone, so I don't think we should do the same. And I don't see at all why would someone needs to say "N lines from EOF".
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Full text available.Received: (at 59388) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 18:21:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 19 13:21:30 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41105 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1owST4-0004oJ-94 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:21:30 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:50310) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1owST1-0004oA-OS for 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:21:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1668882086; bh=6Pe/rsgqs+K1AZoy3yDjcIbL7ep8c9SgK4fnMkV+4CU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=Ji3FX7vWM3DCvfnunNycAtnFo5i6DjGzct7VlO9jQYmlEchtYM7Te6lgHztE69Vsh /THeiinB0p8ku3NKvH2k7qE2NkCcLfiV/S1uAhnk8vnYrGvSDIxGh380hJ5R4Hbj5F 9v2bJkTNKF72tyX0L1zcElp83Jbw8HXjX49SB2kSRELSLHkRGuTPC8e9SNhZVM8GSJ 0OAutoHytvxXXocsqUTYzpaMvsDPwK5BYrrm4cIDiImGi15F0581cJ1eurRV+b3f8j Xek2tEuVQII4jvjXOkaPooiugmsiWOnfMcIzSrhzd0g0TMtla65yMq7+XBT9ocN/dE doDhIVMqsTotw== Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 18:21:26 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line In-Reply-To: <83y1s67qrg.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <518ded72c3e3303c3aaf@HIDDEN> References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c37782cf8af5@HIDDEN> <83y1s67qrg.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Hmmm... I must be missing something. What do you mean? emacsclient >> --eval means "do not visit files but instead evaluate the arguments as >> Emacs Lisp expressions". > > Maybe I didn't understand what you mean by "put the filename inside the > expression". > Well, to achieve what he wants Janek would have to do something like emacsclient --eval '(progn (find-file "FILE") (goto-char (point-max)))' And that also means that the default (waiting) mode of emacsclient is not available.
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Full text available.Received: (at 59388) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 18:03:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 19 13:03:22 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41063 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1owSBV-0004Mi-Uf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:03:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49744) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owSBQ-0004MR-EW for 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:03:19 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owSBL-0006S7-0x; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:03:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=YgjXftTsydnV+fLpnsblPqG8qaTYVXOmnc5yVgTwP5Q=; b=p6anrmjT9+aY T/WHJJnU7o4pqPUPb/sNgmKoezlagNLpgW9F3KkdIml1tpFJI6Cz+EGL37FLCbnheXtsFsmSB9TSZ 767pEwsaMUOGa+KyuJjfdqE/3qQpHalGSVNZjRoYSSVF954PZ5nx+2AEL35d5CigROBNySDCcUFgx +voS5Eox7mvjgPFRheDmfWKPQQX7KhnD4JfV5GK4vO5Xig8n3Zto3GJZUUSBMLq3hcgL5tXMHEw2h iydckht8jPzBsULWodjWRxOKX8LmJNW1ud9AizIvipf2r5Xz8mkcNfBdCbh8gVG9iBbVdVSG9uw6h dt9hRrgJfN4MVlS35XJz5A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owSBK-0006CH-HC; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:03:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:03:15 +0200 Message-Id: <83zgcm7rfg.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> (message from Gregory Heytings on Sat, 19 Nov 2022 17:10:02 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> <518ded72c33c3608e35a@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: xerusx@HIDDEN, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 17:10:02 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> > cc: Janek F <xerusx@HIDDEN>, 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > >> I don't think there is any option right now to start emacsclient on the > >> last line of the file, barring adding lots of 9's. > > > > What about the --eval command-line option of emacsclient? > > > > It's not very convenient, you'd have to put the filename inside the > expression. You are probably assuming something very specific about the expression after --eval. > What do you think of the attached patch? I see no important use cases for this generalization.
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Full text available.Received: (at 59388) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 15:48:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 19 10:48:27 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40991 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1owQ4x-00015K-0e for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 10:48:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owQ4u-000154-2n for 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 10:48:25 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owQ4o-0004xD-Pu; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 10:48:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=xd4+b+1IhPVb2QzBkcbJSQVWldBgBTE14Zjzf31R6W0=; b=UjoT1fyCQ0XJ TmaATRsQitFE11gAjdZEb7PPUf5562tqvXpiVwi5f6oYq28I8dMfKjCOsnM+s6/8gexmWu+k1YIYE CRr7BU4lfOAds9diYA+fxoeYi8FN5zeIGsFtpgqe/8QIkc80RpCb/I+m0Oijz4o5Kb+cc0iWA/VGz j5D/uyUDgh98+9kE0J3plGDEN/Xr9dh/4cbgKVr4yuOIFzZM613AKy/S2kVABtph0uYp5rhUflRut zx/kHyajbbAszoRpbcyodZYdhIdfsTVWjbNCU0AD0OLlhIqDQwuJvzPVkAWNM9ANs2fMDHUi3BFut HYht9Di5LdVo2Z0G6mekxg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1owQ4o-0004ty-8f; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 10:48:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 17:48:25 +0200 Message-Id: <835yfb7xo6.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Janek F <xerusx@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> (bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN) Subject: Re: bug#59388: Open emacsclient file at last line References: <vQbHtAJzqUBd2qqg8W4cbS7581v_pnVCAaBE7huy5TECWMsz-3DPXdzs7hDnASK4p6YkjhUVdgm3zPo0pQR2rQP6w2KioPdSWW1Cxp59CwE=@pm.me> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59388 Cc: 59388 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 11:57:25 +0000 > From: Janek F via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > Hello, > > I don't think there is any option right now to start emacsclient on the last line of the file, barring adding lots of 9's. What about the --eval command-line option of emacsclient?
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