Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2023 11:01:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 12 06:01:56 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pFvLH-0000ss-Pf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2023 06:01:56 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:49254) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <akrl@HIDDEN>) id 1pFvLD-0000si-Vc for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2023 06:01:54 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 30CB1h6J024201 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 12 Jan 2023 11:01:44 GMT From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48x2ng79nL9wOGy2Tt6RUbP8aAT=oa1qY1c5XivnVdMnfQ@HIDDEN> (Aaron Jensen's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:59:59 -0500") References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <83h6xd70mh.fsf@HIDDEN> <xjf7cy2b8ne.fsf@HIDDEN> <838riiz16d.fsf@HIDDEN> <xjfwn5u9znz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48x2ng79nL9wOGy2Tt6RUbP8aAT=oa1qY1c5XivnVdMnfQ@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 11:01:43 +0000 Message-ID: <xjfsfgg9fu0.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> writes: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:28 AM Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> wrote: >> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> >> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> >> >> Cc: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, >> >> eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:51:17 +0000 >> >> >> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> >> >> >> Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If >> >> >> that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. >> >> > >> >> > Andrea, can you suggest a patch along these lines for Aaron to try? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks. >> >> >> >> Hi Eli, >> >> >> >> sorry I'm traveling with sporadic access to the PC till next week. If >> >> the issue is still present I'll work on it next week. >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> >> Hi all, >> >> I pushed a change that should block atimers during native code loads, >> it's in 'scratch/native-timers-blocked'. >> >> I haven't tested it deeply but seems to work for me. If anyone likes to >> test it or play with it is there. >> >> BR >> >> Andrea > > Unfortunately, it still crashes for me with my repro (without > restarting, I just opened Emacs and it crashed). Mhhh :/ , the only advice I have would be to two a printf in 'block_atimers' and 'unblock_atimers', just to be 100% that when when we crash we did our job of blocking the timers. Andrea
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2023 23:00:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 10 18:00:19 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pFNbP-0006Hj-3P for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from mail-pl1-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170]:46821) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>) id 1pFNbM-0006HT-Vs for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:00:17 -0500 Received: by mail-pl1-f170.google.com with SMTP id jn22so14789123plb.13 for <60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:00:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EKiX+YOr8yG7xtyXWAZ3IRzrVANefxxt3389sXM0Fp4=; b=PGCSfSj0UOLjQbhWTS4xNiGqQw6I0U4bwvCnkG2M06lYprFRMk0fubwmynzz6Ntj24 l2fFWzNBGRvWEi6GYS74Pv6Rqs+D9UJ1LFsdsq/ve60ZXxSEgqL6QH1LAmiEodopRVtv TAeNJuvRtinEoq7yTLcTmTmOmWqZFyegtLumc8ez7n57wYgOVVIkxu1FgX/pAoNwCIK3 c+b8TI1SSVUY18HqYdAe8D+3MjMEr9SLLDExf3QHsJSPvLJlSLDS0Zfls8G9eP14U5eB 7WfH4xtWU9pbpW11FckU/U9UjxET+T4SVvclJTk41JMYNB7dprN+Tm4wdvQS9dW1ljLy 242A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=EKiX+YOr8yG7xtyXWAZ3IRzrVANefxxt3389sXM0Fp4=; b=ga2Fsv23HgJtGrB0/Lh2SZswKLPqOo/GiW1m3zo1vj6dJhw6JL45QUgNmgyoZx+w0M WJdTV//nirLZxyHzFplRqfoZBm1icOfm9FMgrNq4z0qPLnL4W0w+WvBCawMu4iyFq2j7 FRAt+aJF+yZJiQK+3xoSEWWmUTbOjpd1HxnCH8i8Dh6yminF9BC2RN8297l7Clw7iMBV efvnaLe5gkvRY+BpFs8STSZDjriEPEhE7GR/8utAYSp4lZJrmZMdxjMoXdXnWqcNSmWx f6ikJz9eCgN1XDkCrWbqywZ+DZlUMrI532Bun0rL0XkuzX2FXiLctgF9/vSLl8ojirUL rPNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2koD3CK0aE2vDfwq5WPUWkCXXvRQKJWWRqiHKwOR543qebgutKIE NoD0BHcyZQeK9n0F0IP1mhByQaONvfauWmfUTto= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtaejuaki2WlX02EDmdFfggUQ7f4ogACmkWBZCZHhB4MJqzKnrzsGQOZdnkYCZbMN98z15aSLdq1hQ7vXIiofA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7d92:b0:18e:bd50:f19a with SMTP id a18-20020a1709027d9200b0018ebd50f19amr4256167plm.81.1673391610988; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:00:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <83h6xd70mh.fsf@HIDDEN> <xjf7cy2b8ne.fsf@HIDDEN> <838riiz16d.fsf@HIDDEN> <xjfwn5u9znz.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <xjfwn5u9znz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: <CAHyO48x2ng79nL9wOGy2Tt6RUbP8aAT=oa1qY1c5XivnVdMnfQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:28 AM Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > >> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> > >> Cc: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, > >> eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:51:17 +0000 > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > >> > >> >> Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If > >> >> that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. > >> > > >> > Andrea, can you suggest a patch along these lines for Aaron to try? > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > >> Hi Eli, > >> > >> sorry I'm traveling with sporadic access to the PC till next week. If > >> the issue is still present I'll work on it next week. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Hi all, > > I pushed a change that should block atimers during native code loads, > it's in 'scratch/native-timers-blocked'. > > I haven't tested it deeply but seems to work for me. If anyone likes to > test it or play with it is there. > > BR > > Andrea Unfortunately, it still crashes for me with my repro (without restarting, I just opened Emacs and it crashed). Thanks, Aaron
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2023 15:28:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 10 10:28:59 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pFGYd-0000di-7d for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 10:28:59 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:57665) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <akrl@HIDDEN>) id 1pFGYb-0000da-5z for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 10:28:58 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 30AFSmHZ027189 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:28:49 GMT From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs In-Reply-To: <838riiz16d.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2023 18:58:50 +0200") References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <83h6xd70mh.fsf@HIDDEN> <xjf7cy2b8ne.fsf@HIDDEN> <838riiz16d.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:28:48 +0000 Message-ID: <xjfwn5u9znz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> >> Cc: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, >> eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:51:17 +0000 >> > [...] Content analysis details: (3.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [205.166.94.33 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> >> Cc: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, >> eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:51:17 +0000 >> > [...] Content analysis details: (2.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [205.166.94.33 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> >> Cc: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, >> eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:51:17 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> >> Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If >> >> that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. >> > >> > Andrea, can you suggest a patch along these lines for Aaron to try? >> > >> > Thanks. >> >> Hi Eli, >> >> sorry I'm traveling with sporadic access to the PC till next week. If >> the issue is still present I'll work on it next week. > > Thanks in advance. Hi all, I pushed a change that should block atimers during native code loads, it's in 'scratch/native-timers-blocked'. I haven't tested it deeply but seems to work for me. If anyone likes to test it or play with it is there. BR Andrea
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2023 15:51:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 04 10:51:33 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pD63B-0007vx-CF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 10:51:33 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:59243) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <akrl@HIDDEN>) id 1pD639-0007vn-8b for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 10:51:32 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 304FpHeS009634 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 4 Jan 2023 15:51:17 GMT From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs In-Reply-To: <83h6xd70mh.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:32:22 +0200") References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <83h6xd70mh.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:51:17 +0000 Message-ID: <xjf7cy2b8ne.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> >> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:03:47 -0500 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> > > Could it by that t [...] Content analysis details: (3.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [205.166.94.33 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> >> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:03:47 -0500 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> > > Could it by that t [...] Content analysis details: (2.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [205.166.94.33 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> >> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:03:47 -0500 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> > > Could it by that the dynamic linker is being invoked recursively? That >> > > is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent >> > > arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked >> > > before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic >> > > linkers into a tizzy. >> > >> > >> > I have no idea, would we see that in the trace at all? Here are two >> > more crashes: https://gist.github.com/aaronjensen/f7c46857ea93c858f46a639d8880f290 >> > >> > I have been able to reproduce it just now pretty easily, but I still >> > can't reproduce it with the debugger attached. >> >> Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If >> that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. > > Andrea, can you suggest a patch along these lines for Aaron to try? > > Thanks. Hi Eli, sorry I'm traveling with sporadic access to the PC till next week. If the issue is still present I'll work on it next week. Best Regards Andrea
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2022 06:33:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 31 01:33:35 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pBVR1-00010A-61 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:33:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pBVQz-0000zu-Nq for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:33:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pBVQu-00016I-0J; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:33:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ESZqnj6WUF5iOoNt8+DYOF0koXvFTu5oc2EMyZxpH8E=; b=dOayHvPZh1Jt 6x5evUDuY2gwb9ik+1V+g68ZouvXTJpBZ1m/8lxjwn4JWtxRf3HfihIM/nYJPOcMXGRlHap6s6hVM I6Nb92o6H/C4ePxLK2HyWuuXpQgrtaef4Y26dy0TRKo3mxDr2E7nf+FHGHFDw5xtjL2u/sFBIeSy8 BMX5lLxc8RD4uIPGMO8x6KeB02wlJGIDj5sOhN90Dy2eokvBdVqT2JVmiPjQ0y3Yh65GyGg4tb1bZ oRFzbzwnRJBBlvV4wxdXi45x1DefrV2QLGGt6vUkuJ3CRmcic5VW123HNT82ZgtPQeJwwpSD9+9BK jti80kSvhfkdRDpUrPLO6Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pBVQt-0004d7-1t; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:33:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:33:28 +0200 Message-Id: <83bknk5bgn.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <18a7cf4f-5429-2e2d-88a7-33b43960c0b3@HIDDEN> (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 30 Dec 2022 14:42:50 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <204d542c-73e6-243a-f2d5-36b92cfa25ee@HIDDEN> <83fscx70em.fsf@HIDDEN> <18a7cf4f-5429-2e2d-88a7-33b43960c0b3@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 14:42:50 -0800 > Cc: aaronjensen@HIDDEN, gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> > > On 12/30/22 00:37, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Can you explain why you think loading shared libraries from an Emacs > > idle timer could be dangerous? > > No, sorry, I was mistaken in my analysis. OK, thanks. It's good to know we have one problem less to investigate and solve.
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Did you allow everything to native compile before starting > >> the restart loop? > > > > Also, please try to run it outside of LLDB and see if it crashes there. > > It seem to depend on "-g -O0" plus running in LLDB. > > With "-g -O0" and without LLDB, the first restart terminates with > > ~/tmp/ > HOME=3D. ~/emacs/master/src/emacs > dyld[4467]: Assertion failed: (this->magic =3D=3D kMagic), function > contains, file Loader.cpp, line 144. Yes, this is what I see. The Apple error reporter shows me the full stack trace I've submitted. I'm glad I'm not the only one. For me, it does not depend on "-g -O0", but that does appear to make it more likely. > With LLDB, it stops like this between restarts > > * thread #21, stop reason =3D exec > frame #0: 0x0000000100b50950 dyld`_dyld_start > > but happily chips on after each "continue" in LLDB. I'm guessing the exec breakpoint is expected and not problematic. Xcode doesn't do this, and I can make LLDB crash, it just takes a few times for me. > I don't see at the moment how to proceed with this. Maybe it's worth > trying to use a helper process for restarting Emacs, as you described > elsewhere if I remember that right. I don't think this is necessary since I've seen what appears to be the same crash on a fresh start (without restarting). I don't know how to proceed either. Without any additional evidence, the only thing I can guess is that we are hitting the same thing that Xojo is: https://www.mbs-plugins.de/archive/2022-12-28/Avoiding_macOS_Ventura_crashe= s/monkeybreadsoftware_blog_xojo Their current plan is to wait and see if Apple fixes it, but 13.2 beta doesn't appear to have fixed it yet, so it may be a while. In the interim, I'm just sending every crash report to Apple and starting Emacs anew whenever it crashes (which thankfully under normal use isn't all that often). Aaron
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[217.227.105.239]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a21-20020a1cf015000000b003d070e45574sm28233278wmb.11.2022.12.30.07.27.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 07:27:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <601a3979-ea55-fbac-6762-497cbc61628a@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 16:27:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.1 Content-Language: en-US To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48wthatu+zGmH5uy_nkMK7Ldhqk1csF38S+uwAvAgEnDxQ@HIDDEN> <EA29F17F-B97E-4DBF-ADDD-CA18E190711F@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48x+h-1YwxQ8b1iGxRkwDCocfAuPvWA9LsVW_9JojJrGHw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z9zWBS_EM6UhhjR31EvRmnZ3aUNHRak1mZfJhLoP-=Bg@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=c3=b6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48z9zWBS_EM6UhhjR31EvRmnZ3aUNHRak1mZfJhLoP-=Bg@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 30.12.22 14:52, Aaron Jensen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 8:37 AM Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 3:42 AM Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> wrote: >>> >>> 13.1 on an M1. >> >> Ok, same. Did you allow everything to native compile before starting >> the restart loop? > > Also, please try to run it outside of LLDB and see if it crashes there. It seem to depend on "-g -O0" plus running in LLDB. With "-g -O0" and without LLDB, the first restart terminates with ~/tmp/ > HOME=. ~/emacs/master/src/emacs dyld[4467]: Assertion failed: (this->magic == kMagic), function contains, file Loader.cpp, line 144. With LLDB, it stops like this between restarts * thread #21, stop reason = exec frame #0: 0x0000000100b50950 dyld`_dyld_start but happily chips on after each "continue" in LLDB. I don't see at the moment how to proceed with this. Maybe it's worth trying to use a helper process for restarting Emacs, as you described elsewhere if I remember that right.
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Did you allow everything to native compile before starting > > the restart loop? > > Also, please try to run it outside of LLDB and see if it crashes there. FWIW, with CFLAGS=3D"-g -O0" CXXFLAGS=3D"-g -O0" and running in XCode it seems to reproduce pretty easily for me. Only took a couple restarts. https://share.cleanshot.com/PK2djHVv On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 9:18 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > I've seen that, but since we don't have a reasonable explanation for > the crashes, I don't think your reproduction is evidence that Paul's > fears, whatever they are, are necessarily incorrect. The mere fact > that you can trigger the crash in a different scenario doesn't yet > mean the original scenario has nothing to do with the problem. This > kind of conclusions can only be drawn once the reason is fully > understood, and we are not there yet. Understood, thank you. I should not jump so quickly to conclusions.
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If > > > > Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code > > during an idle timer. > > This is a limitation we don't want, as it is too severe. How can we > prevent loading when idle timers can run any Lisp, and an arbitrary > Lisp program can always call some autoloaded function? > > And I don't understand why we'd want to have such a restriction, since > idle timers run from the main loop, thus in safe context. It would be > a gratuitous restriction that will only draw (justified) complaints. > > Can you explain why you think loading shared libraries from an Emacs > idle timer could be dangerous? I don't think I understand that. I've already disproven this. I can reproduce a crash with just an after-init hook loading several features. Aaron
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[217.227.105.239]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10-20020a05600c0a0a00b003d96efd09b7sm27690390wmp.19.2022.12.30.00.42.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 00:42:20 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:42:09 +0100 Message-Id: <EA29F17F-B97E-4DBF-ADDD-CA18E190711F@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48wthatu+zGmH5uy_nkMK7Ldhqk1csF38S+uwAvAgEnDxQ@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48wthatu+zGmH5uy_nkMK7Ldhqk1csF38S+uwAvAgEnDxQ@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20C65) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 13.1 on an M1.=20 Sent from my iPhone > On 30. 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macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:41 AM Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN= m> wrote: > > On 30.12.22 05:25, Aaron Jensen wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 11:24 PM Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> w= rote: > >> > >> And here is an init.el that reproduces it. It may take several > >> restarts, but it reproduces it for me: > > > > I should note that you'll need to comment out the restart-Emacs in > > order to let everything native compile if it hasn't already. Then you > > can add the restart back in. > > > > Aaron > > FWIW, I can't yet reproduce this. Tried ca. 10 times in a row, under LLDB= . What version of macOS are you using?
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[217.227.105.239]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y22-20020a1c4b16000000b003d01b84e9b2sm27000937wma.27.2022.12.29.23.41.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:41:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <23975754-a336-fa76-e992-b57badd36cb5@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:41:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.1 Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Content-Language: en-US To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <204d542c-73e6-243a-f2d5-36b92cfa25ee@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48xwp60eey=pQj5=frHB+Ab4z-UtdcYsM7SYHWk5WhtRfw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zVZYYuJt7QUCxPEXiZvbkCbSSRPN0f0WFRUvbjXayEkw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48x5wM4+ANOQ1RxdYvBW_UdhvWCxnaxBqypi1HLD6gBWaQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48x_c=G1yBByt2A5CuR8FsTQ1j2duTqX35vsKE0C5=vryg@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=c3=b6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48x_c=G1yBByt2A5CuR8FsTQ1j2duTqX35vsKE0C5=vryg@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 30.12.22 05:25, Aaron Jensen wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 11:24 PM Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: >> >> And here is an init.el that reproduces it. It may take several >> restarts, but it reproduces it for me: > > I should note that you'll need to comment out the restart-Emacs in > order to let everything native compile if it hasn't already. Then you > can add the restart back in. > > Aaron FWIW, I can't yet reproduce this. Tried ca. 10 times in a row, under LLDB.
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2022 04:24:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 29 23:24:57 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33313 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pB6wz-0001xK-Ak for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:24:57 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:44954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>) id 1pB6wx-0001x6-71 for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:24:55 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f169.google.com with SMTP id k19so6120075pfg.11 for <60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 20:24:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=e1BxlpYmLcH+QFPr0hCwebRmO2tF/EKI5veO5JhBdvI=; b=GIqQaklCVFSgeHq33Muml0Q+lMt6o+kwP5xgsp5ZFQT2eHOBENWisfw7rKZDPtYiQ5 MyXTP0MhJau/lMQgCLw4RMCWsAO57ePE+PU1bJRpN3WcWYa5/IohUoeVkkpNDXz4eVOk oIrlfo8OmmugGmrE8U2cAPlm5FG9+/XHI85Jmh8NrOr7iZx5Bu4F8s7L7CDhWEW4+rsg 9Ctl/nuVYclJP24e3eRnFU5qd/qZasEDlF9vB5KlSTwpoKd5uu8mWJKRRxRY5R4hYXJY s5UBW2GE1Y8e6PnIokja2E/3mSsJRoDdnzIUBdJ9cBQkYUePj7h5qVlDMsaf3bQvZYne 7OIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=e1BxlpYmLcH+QFPr0hCwebRmO2tF/EKI5veO5JhBdvI=; b=TpMEu8ZIL18vldokNmQITZJMZrfM6rsshZcT537Rv4XJzYnqIuGuvJ4Hw7zfOBK3TA sbuIxdAcQjwDTox1EQ0Gv0m8K1cA+NofhpMQWG7UUqK4fuq9kx9v39v5+3dCzjt34ZV5 pMSx4moDY7kKbihLoo+3mXdw6elBiYi51LHrGsghACVkMJnv3B6BMPrhh4bsmSPXCEkR oo/F0GMmwx/iHov9wtQbMEBwYj/FbXnMQksKWqAWRYANCo6ol2kUlUkcGy5AH2CvdBw6 Uo5bjX8Y3IE9Yb+6EUeK0KCONnD0IsCGN6S347Kr6JS+6qaU0ZQSthxDhJRjQCdQIXAf vtkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpqatEM7WoQafO8f4l8mdBNcMi67cmRo72J6oWNtjMh1ehpjFph sxTqhg9FMYkQDGOMGAOxxt1xNbm3RsXhJI/g38M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtTK9U6yzLWja3B850522FMMZFLdX2yTPPjvLlO+AZP1yipwWOPE3e2GsdZr9opQ+sqBsJ83Z/e++s0ihpSwa8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1898:b0:57a:a199:9027 with SMTP id x24-20020a056a00189800b0057aa1999027mr1898621pfh.13.1672374288261; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 20:24:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <204d542c-73e6-243a-f2d5-36b92cfa25ee@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48xwp60eey=pQj5=frHB+Ab4z-UtdcYsM7SYHWk5WhtRfw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zVZYYuJt7QUCxPEXiZvbkCbSSRPN0f0WFRUvbjXayEkw@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48zVZYYuJt7QUCxPEXiZvbkCbSSRPN0f0WFRUvbjXayEkw@HIDDEN> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:24:37 -0500 Message-ID: <CAHyO48x5wM4+ANOQ1RxdYvBW_UdhvWCxnaxBqypi1HLD6gBWaQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) And here is an init.el that reproduces it. It may take several restarts, but it reproduces it for me: (defun load-all () (mapc (lambda (package) (condition-case nil (require package nil t) (error nil))) '( electric w32-fns locate shell autoinsert novice dnd mouse-drag find-file registry skeleton epg plstore mouse-copy ecomplete xt-mouse tmm abbrev term cus-edit dired-x man kmacro sort subr tabify lpr descr-text tool-bar epa-mail nnspool nnbabyl mml2015 gnus-draft nndiary gnus-score gnus-int nndir nngateway gnus-registry mml1991 nnweb gssapi gnus-msg gnus-icalendar mail-source mm-decode nnrss mm-extern gnus-async nntp nnmbox nnvirtual gnus-gravatar gnus-sum nnfolder mml nnregistry mml-sec mm-partial nnoo message gnus-delay gnus-kill mm-archive canlock gnus-art nnheader gnus-agent gnus nnmairix gnus-topic gnus-rfc1843 gnus-group spam gnus-cus gnus-bcklg mm-util gnus-uu mm-url gnus-search gnus-notifications spam-wash nnmail gnus-undo score-mode spam-stat gnus-vm nnmaildir gnus-cache gnus-html gnus-salt legacy-gnus-agent gnus-win nneething nnimap gnus-dbus gnus-start nnnil spam-report gnus-util gnus-logic nndoc mm-bodies gnus-mh nndraft mml-smime gnus-diary mm-view nnselect gnus-spec gnus-ml gnus-sieve gnus-range mm-uu smiley nnml gnus-cite gmm-utils gnus-picon mm-encode nnmh deuglify gnus-eform gnus-dup gnus-fun gnus-bookmark smime gnus-dired gnus-cloud gnus-rmail gnus-srvr nnagent gnus-mlspl gnus-demon battery foldout echistory pcmpl-rpm font-core sasl-scram-sha256 sieve tramp-loaddefs tramp-adb tramp-container eudc-capf tramp-ftp browse-url eudcb-mab tramp ntlm dbus sieve-manage tramp-integration tramp-rclone snmp-mode eudc nsm sasl-cram tramp-sh sasl-ntlm tramp-uu eudc-vars tramp-fuse tramp-cmds telnet tramp-archive newst-backend dns sasl-digest eudcb-bbdb webjump hmac-md5 ldap newst-treeview eudc-export eudcb-mailabbrev mairix newst-plainview tramp-cache dictionary newsticker ange-ftp trampver network-stream mailcap eudcb-ldap tramp-smb eww sieve-mode rcirc tramp-compat tramp-gvfs imap newst-reader shr soap-inspect tramp-sshfs dig sasl zeroconf secrets hmac-def shr-color puny soap-client tramp-sudoedit pop3 goto-addr rfc2104 tramp-crypt newst-ticker gnutls eudc-bob dictionary-connection eudcb-macos-contacts socks net-utils eudcb-ecomplete eudc-hotlist sasl-scram-rfc keymap info-look strokes cal-china cal-french diary-loaddefs cal-julian cal-hebrew parse-time diary-lib time-date holiday-loaddefs cal-html cal-bahai cal-loaddefs timeclock cal-iso cal-mayan holidays cal-tex icalendar cal-islam cal-menu iso8601 cal-move lunar cal-dst cal-coptic cal-x appt calendar cal-persia todo-mode solar tooltip em-glob em-script esh-cmd esh-module em-prompt eshell em-alias em-xtra em-banner esh-mode esh-opt em-tramp em-smart esh-proc em-basic em-dirs em-hist em-cmpl em-pred em-unix esh-io esh-groups em-rebind esh-var em-extpipe esh-ext em-term em-elecslash esh-arg em-ls esh-util htmlfontify cdl x-dnd bind-key use-package-bind-key use-package-ensure use-package-core use-package-jump use-package-delight use-package-lint use-package use-package-diminish use-package-ensure-system-package ehelp autorevert sqlite sqlite-mode delsel ;; sup-mouse iswitchb vi vc-mtn pgg-gpg eieio-compat info-edit pgg vc-arch tpu-extras rcompile nnir linum mh-compat quickurl cl ws-mode bruce tpu-edt otodo-mode uce landmark starttls vt-control inversion pgg-parse html2text netrc cl-compat terminal tpu-mapper mantemp longlines rfc2368 metamail gulp makesum meese pgg-pgp url-dired messcompat eudcb-ph vt100-led autoload url-ns vip ps-def autoarg tls rlogin pgg-def pgg-pgp5 sb-image thumbs cc-compat url-about yow gs crisp rect ebuff-menu subdirs rot13 ibuf-ext files-x xml help-mode format nxml-mode rng-loc nxml-rap rng-xsd xmltok nxml-parse rng-util rng-pttrn nxml-enc rng-nxml nxml-maint rng-valid rng-uri rng-dt nxml-ns rng-parse nxml-outln rng-match nxml-util rng-maint xsd-regexp rng-cmpct loaddefs loadhist reftex-dcr reftex-auc reftex-loaddefs reftex-cite paragraphs flyspell reftex-vars underline tildify reftex-sel two-column page reftex texinfmt yaml-ts-mode texinfo-loaddefs reftex-ref texinfo emacs-authors-mode picture fill conf-mode reftex-parse less-css-mode string-edit dns-mode bibtex ispell nroff-mode refill refbib table text-mode sgml-mode texnfo-upd reftex-index css-mode enriched emacs-news-mode word-wrap-mode glyphless-mode makeinfo remember bibtex-style toml-ts-mode rst refer pixel-fill artist reftex-global po mhtml-mode page-ext tex-mode reftex-toc bib-mode ansi-osc files misc case-table dynamic-setting thingatpt ox-publish org-indent ox-org org-src org-feed org-crypt ob-maxima ob-emacs-lisp org-attach-git ob-lisp org-keys ox-ascii org-cycle ox-md ob-lua ob-java ol-bibtex oc-basic org-footnote ob-screen ob-js ox-koma-letter org-habit org-faces ob-gnuplot ob-lob oc-biblatex ob-forth ob-org org-timer ob-makefile ob-core oc-natbib ox ob-matlab ob-sass ob-ruby ob-R org-goto org-colview org-capture org ol-irc org-loaddefs ol-bbdb ox-man org-macs ob-sqlite org-list ob-awk org-clock org-plot ol-man ob-eshell ob-perl ob-sed ol-w3m org-archive ob-julia ob-latex org-protocol ox-odt ol-rmail ob-table ol-info ox-beamer org-duration org-pcomplete ox-latex ol-eshell org-lint ob-clojure ob-lilypond org-fold ob-tangle ob-ref org-tempo ob-ocaml org-persist org-agenda ob-python ob-calc ob org-element org-compat ob-css oc org-id ob-haskell ob-fortran org-inlinetask org-mouse ol-gnus oc-bibtex ob-scheme ob-ditaa ob-exp org-fold-core ol-docview ob-plantuml ol ox-html org-table ob-octave oc-csl ob-processing org-mobile ox-icalendar ob-groovy ob-eval org-macro org-datetree ol-eww ob-sql ob-dot org-entities ob-C org-attach ob-shell ol-mhe org-num org-version org-refile ol-doi ox-texinfo org-ctags ob-comint rtree rfc2047 reporter rmail-spam-filter qp mail-extr rfc2231 yenc mail-prsvr mailalias rfc6068 rmailmm ietf-drums rmail ietf-drums-date footnote rfc822 rmailout ;; rmailkwd ;; supercite ;; blessmail ;; feedmail ;; mail-parse ;; mailheader ;; uudecode ;; undigest ;; unrmail ;; binhex mail-utils rfc2045 hashcash rmailsort emacsbug flow-fill smtpmail mspools rmailsum rmailmsc mailabbrev mail-hist sendmail mailclient rmailedit startup ansi-color image-file dabbrev cua-base viper-ex viper-macs edt-pc cua-gmrk keypad viper-util edt edt-vt100 viper-keym cua-rect edt-mapper edt-lk201 viper-mous viper-init tab-line server speedbar find-dired cus-dep jka-cmpr-hook format-spec scroll-all lk201 tmux fbterm common-win haiku-win st tty-colors x-win vt200 internal xterm screen sun wyse50 ns-win linux pgtk-win pc-win bobcat AT386 tvi970 rxvt news vt100 iris-ansi cygwin konsole saveplace image-mode uniquify face-remap hilit-chg finder ibuf-macs)) (restart-emacs)) (add-hook 'after-init-hook #'load-all)
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2022 03:55:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 29 22:55:11 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33286 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pB6UA-0001EQ-Lf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 22:55:11 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f46.google.com ([209.85.216.46]:33408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>) id 1pB6U8-0001EA-IK for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 22:55:09 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f46.google.com with SMTP id gv5-20020a17090b11c500b00223f01c73c3so19660509pjb.0 for <60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:55:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Tmydkn/0Rttb0VKBu5ojo/FFLeXiAs7uI98onrqoTd8=; b=HZf9uTbMvzJWncYw4veIvt7quWjLHg4rn2/TLSKTlrHSioZL+OL9VuUQ9IJaFTq4rh iPCKBkQuhdJtatZrByiG12yztTHdf1BeEElw3Ii0bDHql3l/DB6fBBHStyLtQ5sGk7dP BIrc3pIe9OcJKDVx23VIMJ6G2jOKvzMhJdo7r+Q0D6tyGl0paVE+LEQDQDLFO4j2XDP6 o0riPtIsag76lci4iHTNVDykUeAF9RVEVoD+9Spmy0+Ww7HvsVVj4zPcUyVnpS40P9xE 7pBCuW0WnUcdU9tzrXYnpnzcBOXR7NIgsErsi8Ikx0uxLNo8yCBw6oibS5EOYyaApOOw 3Yog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Tmydkn/0Rttb0VKBu5ojo/FFLeXiAs7uI98onrqoTd8=; b=dlxJ/OH3TIl87w4xaiHA0Yh9Wakz7ViPt1b4lOEHd3je7JqJvsSEqhZQl/wZR4VSPK 5sx4RzaS7wPs8KuAqiSVbMK6syMO0VB0DBLnyVgfIIfcgW4oykphmi+zsQJvDVyWq87e iBqbJI3Hj5iSqSSd0Oqoa8TyJFCvXyonw+KuXSpB2PnikOyNXfcMPlqjIRlA+14ewn6+ abEoD8K98DNQKHoonENh1yPnT23OwPJtQ3cKkEWXmAmaAEWY/h/EobaQVzMfMvf1myEd YYEI3HsgnoheKnBnhWJ8y2q8GkTJmpKy7rT8ZQTbxYSaC/lezesYDniRM5+10CV/QDDJ 5LsA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kr+qw1HXTC93BBOK35u4XYYe6RsC4u7AoyW8CLDGYL8xbfziMtr Owo4jRtJSSuDCDmZTsp2AWqvbVZusLBv7WYPtjw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvdak47VNEHpRKe9dOunTaxhcPn11M5TO1txvQNjam/xEuO1iNAkJQGWl9tdTSDQmBoKrsmMxsrA+68dMUwPJQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3a8c:b0:226:1537:5638 with SMTP id om12-20020a17090b3a8c00b0022615375638mr656972pjb.198.1672372502366; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:55:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> <e75aae96-df88-7f9e-eac2-731889b73598@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48yjqwsVLBFBRYqnr+S19beh+-B0gYN737tw1kbwF=h7zw@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48y_2bgyZRMHbOPi_s+mgi6eEGe7PW1q02N8fYSoUueWEA@HIDDEN> <204d542c-73e6-243a-f2d5-36b92cfa25ee@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48xwp60eey=pQj5=frHB+Ab4z-UtdcYsM7SYHWk5WhtRfw@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48xwp60eey=pQj5=frHB+Ab4z-UtdcYsM7SYHWk5WhtRfw@HIDDEN> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 22:54:50 -0500 Message-ID: <CAHyO48zVZYYuJt7QUCxPEXiZvbkCbSSRPN0f0WFRUvbjXayEkw@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:11 PM Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 8:16 PM Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > > On 12/29/22 16:03, Aaron Jensen wrote: > > > Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If > > > > Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code > > during an idle timer. Surely this could cause problems even in > > non-native lisp. Anyway, I suggest consulting a macOS expert before > > doing much experimenting; there's not enough evidence now for me to give > > advice. > > > I reported a bug and opened a discussion on the developer forum. We > will see where that goes. > > I also added printfs on either side of native-elisp-load. When I got a > crash, it was in a magit eln again and from what I can tell, every > "start loading" had a matching "loaded" logged. I don't know that that > definitely rules out the load interrupted theory or not. > > Furthermore, I've been able to crash it in a debugger. I don't know > what to do there though, so I'm not sure how useful that is at this > point. > > Aaron I was able to reproduce it in an after-init hook (so no timers involved) ------------------------------------- Translated Report (Full Report Below) ------------------------------------- Process: Emacs [33253] Path: /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs Version: Version 29.0.60 (9.0) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process: zsh [69115] Responsible: iTerm2 [64164] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2022-12-29 22:51:06.9736 -0500 OS Version: macOS 13.1 (22C65) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: CD1F31D7-5E61-2935-643D-55F58CD29C12 Sleep/Wake UUID: F85FABBE-D01F-449A-BF1E-0176C31B6028 Time Awake Since Boot: 210000 seconds Time Since Wake: 128 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000000000f9 Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x00000000000000f9 VM Region Info: 0xf9 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 105553518919431 REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL UNUSED SPACE AT START ---> MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 600018000000-600020000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=NUL ...(unallocated) Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d621b0 __pthread_kill + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d98cec pthread_kill + 288 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1a6c9aa50 raise + 32 3 Emacs 0x100a31aec terminate_due_to_signal + 204 4 Emacs 0x100a322f0 emacs_abort + 20 5 Emacs 0x100a00db0 ns_term_shutdown + 132 6 Emacs 0x1008ecb94 shut_down_emacs + 332 7 Emacs 0x100a31ab4 terminate_due_to_signal + 148 8 Emacs 0x10090f084 handle_fatal_signal + 16 9 Emacs 0x10090f100 deliver_thread_signal + 124 10 Emacs 0x10090d700 deliver_fatal_thread_signal + 12 11 Emacs 0x10090f160 handle_sigsegv + 96 12 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x1a6dc72a4 _sigtramp + 56 13 dyld 0x1a6a99380 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, std::__1::less<lsl::Allocator::Buffer>, false>::const_iterator::operator++() + 60 14 dyld 0x1a6a99d54 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, std::__1::less<lsl::Allocator::Buffer>, false>::erase(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, std::__1::less<lsl::Allocator::Buffer>, false>::const_iterator) + 76 15 dyld 0x1a6a999fc lsl::PersistentAllocator::reserveRange(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::const_iterator&, lsl::Allocator::Buffer) + 264 16 dyld 0x1a6a9a0b0 lsl::PersistentAllocator::allocate_buffer(unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long, lsl::Allocator**) + 624 17 dyld 0x1a6a991e0 lsl::Allocator::aligned_alloc(unsigned long, unsigned long) + 180 18 dyld 0x1a6a99230 lsl::Allocator::strdup(char const*) + 48 19 dyld 0x1a6a968b8 dyld4::FileManager::fileRecordForPath(char const*) + 40 20 dyld 0x1a6ab4624 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::readMappedFileInfo(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>&, unsigned long long&, lsl::UUID&, dyld4::FileRecord&) + 132 21 dyld 0x1a6ab3170 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::deserialize(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 928 22 dyld 0x1a6ab2cec dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::ProcessSnapshot(lsl::Allocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 304 23 dyld 0x1a6a7ef64 lsl::UniquePtr<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot> lsl::Allocator::makeUnique<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot, lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&>(lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool&&, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 80 24 dyld 0x1a6a7bafc dyld4::RuntimeState::getCurrentProcessSnapshot() + 96 25 dyld 0x1a6a7b8cc dyld4::RuntimeState::notifyDebuggerLoad(std::__1::span<dyld4::Loader const*, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 72 26 dyld 0x1a6aaaf3c dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*)::$_0::operator()() const + 748 27 dyld 0x1a6aa4968 dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*) + 892 28 Emacs 0x1009b4db0 Fnative_elisp_load + 356 29 Emacs 0x10099088c Fload + 2104 30 Emacs 0x1009925f0 save_match_data_load + 92 31 Emacs 0x10096c928 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 32 Emacs 0x100978d84 Frequire + 560 33 Emacs 0x100968a30 eval_sub + 2236 34 Emacs 0x10096b158 internal_lisp_condition_case + 884 35 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 36 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 37 Emacs 0x10096a3a8 Fwhile + 80 38 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 39 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 40 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 41 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 42 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 43 Emacs 0x10096e10c funcall_lambda + 1316 44 Emacs 0x10096a724 Ffuncall + 316 45 Emacs 0x100968998 eval_sub + 2084 46 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 47 Emacs 0x10096a2b4 Flet + 840 48 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 49 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 50 Emacs 0x10096e10c funcall_lambda + 1316 51 Emacs 0x10096a724 Ffuncall + 316 52 Emacs 0x100968998 eval_sub + 2084 53 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 54 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 55 Emacs 0x10096b158 internal_lisp_condition_case + 884 56 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 57 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 58 Emacs 0x10096e10c funcall_lambda + 1316 59 Emacs 0x10096a724 Ffuncall + 316 60 Emacs 0x10096d35c run_hook_wrapped_funcall + 28 61 Emacs 0x10096d1f0 run_hook_with_args + 320 62 Emacs 0x100968998 eval_sub + 2084 63 Emacs 0x10096b158 internal_lisp_condition_case + 884 64 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 65 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 66 Emacs 0x10096a2b4 Flet + 840 67 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 68 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 69 Emacs 0x10096a3a8 Fwhile + 80 70 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 71 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 72 Emacs 0x10096a2b4 Flet + 840 73 Emacs 0x10096889c eval_sub + 1832 74 Emacs 0x100968bac Fprogn + 48 75 Emacs 0x10096e10c funcall_lambda + 1316 76 Emacs 0x10096a724 Ffuncall + 316 77 Emacs 0x10096cf28 Fapply + 612 78 Emacs 0x1009ab940 exec_byte_code + 2988 79 Emacs 0x10096a724 Ffuncall + 316 80 startup-bbc6ea72-452f9f58.eln 0x104f8431c F636f6d6d616e642d6c696e65_command_line_0 + 5452 81 Emacs 0x10096a724 Ffuncall + 316 82 startup-bbc6ea72-452f9f58.eln 0x104f80bb8 F6e6f726d616c2d746f702d6c6576656c_normal_top_level_0 + 3156 83 Emacs 0x100968918 eval_sub + 1956 84 Emacs 0x10096ca4c Feval + 88 85 Emacs 0x10096b32c internal_condition_case + 96 86 Emacs 0x1009011c8 top_level_1 + 48 87 Emacs 0x10096ad50 internal_catch + 88 88 Emacs 0x100a31f08 command_loop.cold.1 + 64 89 Emacs 0x1008ef488 command_loop + 152 90 Emacs 0x1008ef344 recursive_edit_1 + 148 91 Emacs 0x1008ef5a8 Frecursive_edit + 264 92 Emacs 0x1008ee924 main + 7484 93 dyld 0x1a6a6fe50 start + 2544 Thread 1: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 2: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 3:: gmain 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d64a00 __select + 8 1 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10189b090 g_poll + 424 2 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10188e234 g_main_context_iterate + 340 3 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10188e2fc g_main_context_iteration + 60 4 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10188f694 glib_worker_main + 48 5 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x1018b2918 g_thread_proxy + 68 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d9906c _pthread_start + 148 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 4: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 5: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 6: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d5ffa4 __pselect + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d5fe7c pselect$DARWIN_EXTSN + 64 2 Emacs 0x100a01e90 -[EmacsApp fd_handler:] + 184 3 Foundation 0x1a7d79470 __NSThread__start__ + 716 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d9906c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 7:: com.apple.NSEventThread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d59d70 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d6b8a4 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d625c4 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d5a0ec mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x1a6e78bc0 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1a6e774ac __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1a6e76888 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 AppKit 0x1aa222410 _NSEventThread + 172 8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d9906c _pthread_start + 148 9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e2c thread_start + 8
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All it would = take is any idle timer that evals auto loaded code that was yet to be loaded. If this is in fact the problem it does seem unlikely anyone would hit it unless they were doing what I am doing, but that would only be a coincidence. I wonder if there are any macOS experts here. I can try asking on stack overflow or maybe opening a support case. I=E2=80=99ve never been able to g= et to a developer though. Aaron On Thu, Dec 29 2022 at 8:16 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> wrote: > On 12/29/22 16:03, Aaron Jensen wrote: > > Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If > > Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code > during an idle timer. Surely this could cause problems even in non-native > lisp. Anyway, I suggest consulting a macOS expert before doing much > experimenting; there's not enough evidence now for me to give advice. > --000000000000657d5705f10167d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div> <div> <div>Hm, I don=E2=80=99t see how that could be generally avoided. A= ll it would take is any idle timer that evals auto loaded code that was yet= to be loaded. If this is in fact the problem it does seem unlikely anyone = would hit it unless they were doing what I am doing, but that would only be= a coincidence. </div><div><br></div><div>I wonder if there are any macOS e= xperts here. I can try asking on stack overflow or maybe opening a support = case. I=E2=80=99ve never been able to get to a developer though. </div> <div></div> <br> <div class=3D"gmail_signature"> <div><br>Aaron</div> =20 </div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"> <br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Thu, Dec 29 2022 at 8:16 PM, Paul Eggert <<a href=3D"mailto:eggert@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eggert@= cs.ucla.edu</a>> wrote: <br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0.8ex;border-= left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div><p>On 12/29/22 16:03, Aaron Jensen wrote: </p><blockquote><p> Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If </p></blockquote><p> Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code=20 during an idle timer. Surely this could cause problems even in=20 non-native lisp. 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That >> is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent >> arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked >> before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic >> linkers into a tizzy. > > I have no idea, would we see that in the trace at all? Not necessarily from the traces you sent. For example, if the inner dynamic linker function corrupts data but returns, the crash will occur when there's only one dynamic linker activation record on the stack, even though that call wasn't the problem. It may require some macOS expertise and access to a dynamic debugger to diagnose this further. (I have neither.) Possibly you could deduce it by running Emacs under dtrace or equivalent (sorry, can't help you with that either).
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That > > is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent > > arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked > > before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic > > linkers into a tizzy. > > > I have no idea, would we see that in the trace at all? Here are two > more crashes: https://gist.github.com/aaronjensen/f7c46857ea93c858f46a639d8880f290 > > I have been able to reproduce it just now pretty easily, but I still > can't reproduce it with the debugger attached. Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. Thanks, Aaron
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That > is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent > arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked > before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic > linkers into a tizzy. I have no idea, would we see that in the trace at all? Here are two more crashes: https://gist.github.com/aaronjensen/f7c46857ea93c858f46a639d8880f290 I have been able to reproduce it just now pretty easily, but I still can't reproduce it with the debugger attached.
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2022 23:47:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 29 18:47:15 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pB2cE-0002uT-9h for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 18:47:15 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f170.google.com ([209.85.210.170]:45934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>) id 1pB2cC-0002uE-BZ for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 18:47:13 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f170.google.com with SMTP id c7so13529661pfc.12 for <60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:47:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=STD/J/Rer+O3JXnxglSfpUzhEMAUdvWLKd/C8k40Tco=; b=frioalvhs+TmlCGF/Se0f1mgW4SwZROPBjoUKJrzeptZK2SylzFBixZ6AgUEF8G3sS mt0LAw3UwYu/aF3MSsCwB/fcGlttmfoXIndM0pEWv+QhKLMMDjJGh/YU18VO2+VEASK/ Le1z84X/+Hd/pfB/oEqGH8qjvN9tfmjp/RGkzoPyjWttzKcW2BKsxxuPEwb3xSmAefEM G5xHh5eKreRaVTGkC83ig8WKeGGp1mZRujS8haj2TAVtu8ocza538VN6CLfrN8wWMa0P YqvJejB0Ons4vNtsQUgoBbGJ5usczX210StvUObRwlxMgOzWKgNKLpI13VVv2um44/gR panQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=STD/J/Rer+O3JXnxglSfpUzhEMAUdvWLKd/C8k40Tco=; b=zk2ZQWX3fLroiik0euaCsjkJc65JQOwKLlYFvAWM5mrCJ65HC8wx0ymYQ850s0rffh 1uX6fgYrN8rIanWEGvEM0y6Yy7IRM6DkBEWWHf1JL8A/JMp7ZQCHhhJJ+rwtFoduumcP mxFcXEV8rD0h9b7iT/0qYeoCdTNY1KCiFcKgq1we33xdRNdb6bS28CipPksbZHernL0+ wiI0VGtP7/9qaPejuHrWMKl+XYv7JYYNaozpyaU6NApcN78BY7pCzdIO/iJWiMtNYC3Y VDi5tED+eXyxN8ivh5RPcG4wfCCKKXeybe+NLvweXb9quVGbRZ/noxF4jSoi8aWhx83P fDNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpl13VMXz5Tla1tXzgdtfB/kAfjT2eKxDNC3izsWQOBYuwcsoGm 2yT5GsHs+VgVjDg9ZgJPAqXoW7Qbns9N2WmROIA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXs/RCZb7Y7X22PHn0/EF145e6zTpC4qUKubyVvIHyAWjCyMxDH6gA7osVCAH4D7Wjkg7kY0eChbrV3tlZBmysU= X-Received: by 2002:a65:4c81:0:b0:486:f3bf:822e with SMTP id m1-20020a654c81000000b00486f3bf822emr1791557pgt.482.1672357625238; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:47:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48z2SXg6Oz0FNVD2WS-j74Z=93GSW35Qt8sNuQhU2VBHOg@HIDDEN> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48zC9WxBqHODUfdA_C2Vj_D-ya5jHx=1eCpoa8SdHwfXFQ@HIDDEN> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 18:46:54 -0500 Message-ID: <CAHyO48yNMOXYE0+TU=qZmcgeGpnrmRuy57wtCaGNxJhtBq1Czw@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 5:47 PM Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 8:11 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > > > From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> > > > Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 06:12:35 -0500 > > > Cc: gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN, eggert@HIDDEN, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > I found a similar issue in another program: > > > https://forum.xojo.com/t/xojo-2022r3-1-crashes-galore/72887/142 > > > > Maybe, maybe not. Your crashes always happen after restarting, right? > > You don't see crashes inside dlopen if you never restart, correct? > > > > But yes, it could be something related. My production session has 260 > > *.eln files loaded, for example. So if macOS 13 has problems with > > loading many shared libraries, maybe this is one of the symptoms. > > I can't say that with 100% certainty. Sometimes the crashes are hours > after I started Emacs and I don't know if I had ever restarted that > session. I do seem to be crashing a lot less frequently after the > signal patch, which is probably just a coincidence, but who knows. > > Aaron I just got a crash on a fresh start, so I now know it is not related to restarts. Interestingly enough, this crash and the one just before show the eln that is being loaded. The first time it was: vc-hg-69e20438-d4ba19ca.eln and the second time it was: magit-status-6f9334e6-b672845f.eln It seems to happen more often when I immediately start doing something in Emacs. One thing of note is that I have something that eagerly loads packages on an idle timer (it caches what was loaded when Emacs is quit). That's possibly why there is usually a timer_event_handler in the trace. I don't know if that gives us any clues as to what may be happening here. ------------------------------------- Translated Report (Full Report Below) ------------------------------------- Process: Emacs [19874] Path: /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs Version: Version 29.0.60 (9.0) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2022-12-29 18:41:27.1385 -0500 OS Version: macOS 13.1 (22C65) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: CD1F31D7-5E61-2935-643D-55F58CD29C12 Sleep/Wake UUID: FC867C11-7B4D-45DA-A2FF-FE03A9A69EF4 Time Awake Since Boot: 210000 seconds Time Since Wake: 5671 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000013b1940f8 Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x000000013b1940f8 VM Region Info: 0x13b1940f8 is in 0x13b194000-0x13b1ac000; bytes after start: 248 bytes before end: 98055 REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL dyld private memory 13b154000-13b194000 [ 256K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV ---> __TEXT 13b194000-13b1ac000 [ 96K] r-x/rwx SM=COW ...-b672845f.eln __DATA_CONST 13b1ac000-13b1b0000 [ 16K] r--/rwx SM=COW ...-b672845f.eln Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d621b0 __pthread_kill + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d98cec pthread_kill + 288 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1a6c9aa50 raise + 32 3 Emacs 0x100d69aec terminate_due_to_signal + 204 4 Emacs 0x100d6a2f0 emacs_abort + 20 5 Emacs 0x100d38db0 ns_term_shutdown + 132 6 Emacs 0x100c24b94 shut_down_emacs + 332 7 Emacs 0x100d69ab4 terminate_due_to_signal + 148 8 Emacs 0x100c47084 handle_fatal_signal + 16 9 Emacs 0x100c47100 deliver_thread_signal + 124 10 Emacs 0x100c45700 deliver_fatal_thread_signal + 12 11 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x1a6dc72a4 _sigtramp + 56 12 dyld 0x1a6a9c1b4 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::NodeCore<15u, 10u>::splitChild(unsigned char, lsl::Allocator&) + 172 13 dyld 0x1a6a9c1b4 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::NodeCore<15u, 10u>::splitChild(unsigned char, lsl::Allocator&) + 172 14 dyld 0x1a6a9bf78 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::const_iterator::prepareForInsertion(lsl::Allocator&) + 532 15 dyld 0x1a6a9bbb0 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::insert_internal(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::const_iterator&&, lsl::Allocator::Buffer&&) + 452 16 dyld 0x1a6a99a90 lsl::PersistentAllocator::reserveRange(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::const_iterator&, lsl::Allocator::Buffer) + 412 17 dyld 0x1a6a9a0b0 lsl::PersistentAllocator::allocate_buffer(unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long, lsl::Allocator**) + 624 18 dyld 0x1a6a991e0 lsl::Allocator::aligned_alloc(unsigned long, unsigned long) + 180 19 dyld 0x1a6a99230 lsl::Allocator::strdup(char const*) + 48 20 dyld 0x1a6a968b8 dyld4::FileManager::fileRecordForPath(char const*) + 40 21 dyld 0x1a6ab4624 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::readMappedFileInfo(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>&, unsigned long long&, lsl::UUID&, dyld4::FileRecord&) + 132 22 dyld 0x1a6ab3170 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::deserialize(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 928 23 dyld 0x1a6ab2cec dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::ProcessSnapshot(lsl::Allocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 304 24 dyld 0x1a6a7ef64 lsl::UniquePtr<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot> lsl::Allocator::makeUnique<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot, lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&>(lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool&&, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 80 25 dyld 0x1a6a7bafc dyld4::RuntimeState::getCurrentProcessSnapshot() + 96 26 dyld 0x1a6a7b8cc dyld4::RuntimeState::notifyDebuggerLoad(std::__1::span<dyld4::Loader const*, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 72 27 dyld 0x1a6aaaf3c dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*)::$_0::operator()() const + 748 28 dyld 0x1a6aa4968 dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*) + 892 29 Emacs 0x100cecdb0 Fnative_elisp_load + 356 30 Emacs 0x100cc888c Fload + 2104 31 Emacs 0x100cca5f0 save_match_data_load + 92 32 Emacs 0x100ca4928 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 33 Emacs 0x100cb0d84 Frequire + 560 34 Emacs 0x100ca0a30 eval_sub + 2236 35 Emacs 0x100ca3158 internal_lisp_condition_case + 884 36 Emacs 0x100ca089c eval_sub + 1832 37 Emacs 0x100ca0bac Fprogn + 48 38 Emacs 0x100ca23a8 Fwhile + 80 39 Emacs 0x100ca089c eval_sub + 1832 40 Emacs 0x100ca0bac Fprogn + 48 41 Emacs 0x100ca610c funcall_lambda + 1316 42 Emacs 0x100ca2724 Ffuncall + 316 43 Emacs 0x100ca2724 Ffuncall + 316 44 timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln 0x107b40e44 F74696d65722d6576656e742d68616e646c6572_timer_event_handler_0 + 832 45 Emacs 0x100ca2724 Ffuncall + 316 46 Emacs 0x100c31288 timer_check + 892 47 Emacs 0x100c2f634 readable_events + 36 48 Emacs 0x100c30eb4 get_input_pending + 56 49 Emacs 0x100c2f364 detect_input_pending_run_timers + 48 50 Emacs 0x100cf7064 wait_reading_process_output + 3824 51 Emacs 0x100b6d4d8 sit_for + 376 52 Emacs 0x100c2ca74 read_char + 6756 53 Emacs 0x100c29548 read_key_sequence + 1056 54 Emacs 0x100c27db8 command_loop_1 + 700 55 Emacs 0x100ca332c internal_condition_case + 96 56 Emacs 0x100c27ae8 command_loop_2 + 52 57 Emacs 0x100ca2d50 internal_catch + 88 58 Emacs 0x100d69f18 command_loop.cold.1 + 80 59 Emacs 0x100c27488 command_loop + 152 60 Emacs 0x100c27344 recursive_edit_1 + 148 61 Emacs 0x100c275a8 Frecursive_edit + 264 62 Emacs 0x100c26924 main + 7484 63 dyld 0x1a6a6fe50 start + 2544
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2022 19:30:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 25 14:30:35 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p9Whe-00053R-Gr for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:30:35 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f51.google.com ([209.85.216.51]:52100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>) id 1p9Whb-000535-Vm for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:30:32 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f51.google.com with SMTP id gt4so9173910pjb.1 for <60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 11:30:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=E08rGWjTgNMPUgcA2ppGyaP97UJm3ml+yVGfbXJEyWQ=; b=O+lsnftmMeX5MYnH0wIqkKWYdBq2Tf0wV19zlYffNFnfgjuN1BSETJcg1ou7sTJkO9 uZVWKyiXgwktD0TGVsW9onCVV08HdFXiazaK8eM7wploVX9zY0jbf7PDIDGd2ckMTsSc 3Ne8q2fI5vO8AA6HWezLKGeuRZO8yddwAs+FITmLll/skfTqB8ugQYIGbZx6l+BqK6Vy 1aMFohgQNZ+Phk8f28vTlbvJ7/XH8elYoXJzSZYv8EUv/NYjSbTWAJhht35p0JVK6awy jKh2ax1kvw/6kqR44MHaQGBA55Ne+IIrHrFv/WxhnHMVkQddfhK5Bd72Oaa1dnM/jHRh TVmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=E08rGWjTgNMPUgcA2ppGyaP97UJm3ml+yVGfbXJEyWQ=; b=gGpEf2dmk0W0qy1z4OY2G9xmKII9qYgvC4usahvDQ5Ro6FhyJNnx3AB4/xpssR6q27 0k5lyWPJ6ZSyaysy0qvot6s1h/5ZeDsCnPY+7jBho2Wc9OhlSm8mnC9gIX0iS/kAzaUx TLmCL9C138FJAlrPi9efoCMacjNK8RJg69PxLRpHd9eEfGqm9GSXO0x2uZSlnyXlSLlr erht2PIQFsh7WLnVL4LYfD+Mz2lS5tEGnKcUgVD1NkqCWEDwLjhgjjLZ2RpRvSrY2Sak zlgAOKzD5cs0yWjFe5frH0JHXLrZK9nalNEmnbomt8F1SXvu0rzRi9TYxWUOpsjz0Egx 0q9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kraH8K05jZQ4RnLpn1bHk07A9oHWp25dZgtd89TWZuvCUtgUGYX //mmcXcQ94qpQKc3nJY3P7A2CxTDBjXDCeGPRiQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXspoQ/td8Wz1Acvtd2Id6MmM0gKtmIR1Hv5wIeI7lCfsS6E5Y3Z2tzDEh9JPzD+bVNVS4zFhvQ6UCWtoxXHtaY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:50e:b0:186:9c2b:3a39 with SMTP id jn14-20020a170903050e00b001869c2b3a39mr646869plb.115.1671996625788; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 11:30:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:30:14 -0500 Message-ID: <CAHyO48w2w8MTcr_4ytcCU5f5q3cAAQpo_NuwpsD0+BW0VRAf1A@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Unfortunately, I just got a crash: ------------------------------------- Translated Report (Full Report Below) ------------------------------------- Process: Emacs [642] Path: /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs Version: Version 29.0.60 (9.0) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2022-12-25 14:28:45.8693 -0500 OS Version: macOS 13.1 (22C65) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: CD1F31D7-5E61-2935-643D-55F58CD29C12 Sleep/Wake UUID: 2679CDEF-2FD4-4A89-92F7-619CD5C1E50A Time Awake Since Boot: 60000 seconds Time Since Wake: 2033 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000000000f9 Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x00000000000000f9 VM Region Info: 0xf9 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 105553518919431 REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL UNUSED SPACE AT START ---> MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 600018000000-600020000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=NUL ...(unallocated) Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d621b0 __pthread_kill + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d98cec pthread_kill + 288 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1a6c9aa50 raise + 32 3 Emacs 0x10431daec terminate_due_to_signal + 204 4 Emacs 0x10431e2f0 emacs_abort + 20 5 Emacs 0x1042ecdb0 ns_term_shutdown + 132 6 Emacs 0x1041d8b94 shut_down_emacs + 332 7 Emacs 0x10431dab4 terminate_due_to_signal + 148 8 Emacs 0x1041fb084 handle_fatal_signal + 16 9 Emacs 0x1041fb100 deliver_thread_signal + 124 10 Emacs 0x1041f9700 deliver_fatal_thread_signal + 12 11 Emacs 0x1041fb160 handle_sigsegv + 96 12 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x1a6dc72a4 _sigtramp + 56 13 ??? 0xffff8001a6a99380 ??? 14 dyld 0x1a6a99d54 lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, std::__1::less<lsl::Allocator::Buffer>, false>::erase(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, std::__1::less<lsl::Allocator::Buffer>, false>::const_iterator) + 76 15 dyld 0x1a6a999fc lsl::PersistentAllocator::reserveRange(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::const_iterator&, lsl::Allocator::Buffer) + 264 16 dyld 0x1a6a9a0b0 lsl::PersistentAllocator::allocate_buffer(unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long, lsl::Allocator**) + 624 17 dyld 0x1a6a991e0 lsl::Allocator::aligned_alloc(unsigned long, unsigned long) + 180 18 dyld 0x1a6a99230 lsl::Allocator::strdup(char const*) + 48 19 dyld 0x1a6a968b8 dyld4::FileManager::fileRecordForPath(char const*) + 40 20 dyld 0x1a6ab4624 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::readMappedFileInfo(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>&, unsigned long long&, lsl::UUID&, dyld4::FileRecord&) + 132 21 dyld 0x1a6ab3170 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::deserialize(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 928 22 dyld 0x1a6ab2cec dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::ProcessSnapshot(lsl::Allocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 304 23 dyld 0x1a6a7ef64 lsl::UniquePtr<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot> lsl::Allocator::makeUnique<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot, lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&>(lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool&&, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 80 24 dyld 0x1a6a7bafc dyld4::RuntimeState::getCurrentProcessSnapshot() + 96 25 dyld 0x1a6a7b8cc dyld4::RuntimeState::notifyDebuggerLoad(std::__1::span<dyld4::Loader const*, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 72 26 dyld 0x1a6aaaf3c dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*)::$_0::operator()() const + 748 27 dyld 0x1a6aa4968 dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*) + 892 28 Emacs 0x1042a0db0 Fnative_elisp_load + 356 29 Emacs 0x10427c88c Fload + 2104 30 Emacs 0x10427e5f0 save_match_data_load + 92 31 Emacs 0x104258928 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 32 Emacs 0x104264d84 Frequire + 560 33 Emacs 0x104254a30 eval_sub + 2236 34 Emacs 0x104257158 internal_lisp_condition_case + 884 35 Emacs 0x10425489c eval_sub + 1832 36 Emacs 0x104254bac Fprogn + 48 37 Emacs 0x1042563a8 Fwhile + 80 38 Emacs 0x10425489c eval_sub + 1832 39 Emacs 0x104254bac Fprogn + 48 40 Emacs 0x10425a10c funcall_lambda + 1316 41 Emacs 0x104256724 Ffuncall + 316 42 Emacs 0x104256724 Ffuncall + 316 43 timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln 0x10b104e44 F74696d65722d6576656e742d68616e646c6572_timer_event_handler_0 + 832 44 Emacs 0x104256724 Ffuncall + 316 45 Emacs 0x1041e5288 timer_check + 892 46 Emacs 0x1041e3634 readable_events + 36 47 Emacs 0x1041e4eb4 get_input_pending + 56 48 Emacs 0x1041e3364 detect_input_pending_run_timers + 48 49 Emacs 0x1042ab064 wait_reading_process_output + 3824 50 Emacs 0x1041e11e0 read_char + 8656 51 Emacs 0x1041dd548 read_key_sequence + 1056 52 Emacs 0x1041dbdb8 command_loop_1 + 700 53 Emacs 0x10425732c internal_condition_case + 96 54 Emacs 0x1041dbae8 command_loop_2 + 52 55 Emacs 0x104256d50 internal_catch + 88 56 Emacs 0x10431df18 command_loop.cold.1 + 80 57 Emacs 0x1041db488 command_loop + 152 58 Emacs 0x1041db344 recursive_edit_1 + 148 59 Emacs 0x1041db5a8 Frecursive_edit + 264 60 Emacs 0x1041da924 main + 7484 61 dyld 0x1a6a6fe50 start + 2544 Thread 1: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 2: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 3:: gmain 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d64a00 __select + 8 1 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10517fb20 g_poll + 424 2 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x105172cc4 g_main_context_iterate + 340 3 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x105172d8c g_main_context_iteration + 60 4 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x105174124 glib_worker_main + 48 5 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x1051973a8 g_thread_proxy + 68 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d9906c _pthread_start + 148 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 4: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 5: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 6: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 7: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d5ffa4 __pselect + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d5fe7c pselect$DARWIN_EXTSN + 64 2 Emacs 0x1042ede90 -[EmacsApp fd_handler:] + 184 3 Foundation 0x1a7d79470 __NSThread__start__ + 716 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d9906c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 8:: com.apple.NSEventThread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d59d70 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d6b8a4 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d625c4 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d5a0ec mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x1a6e78bc0 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1a6e774ac __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1a6e76888 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 AppKit 0x1aa222410 _NSEventThread + 172 8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d9906c _pthread_start + 148 9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6d93e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 0 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit): x0: 0x0000000000000000 x1: 0x0000000000000000 x2: 0x0000000000000000 x3: 0x0000600003839480 x4: 0x0000600003839460 x5: 0x0000000000000000 x6: 0x0000000000000067 x7: 0x000000000000001c x8: 0xf7585af72d0ca2d0 x9: 0xf7585af52f035850 x10: 0x0000000000000001 x11: 0x0000000000000003 x12: 0x0000000000000001 x13: 0x0000600002c7cc00 x14: 0x010000020211fee9 x15: 0x000000020211fee8 x16: 0x0000000000000148 x17: 0x0000000206f407f0 x18: 0x0000000000000000 x19: 0x0000000000000006 x20: 0x00000002020ffa80 x21: 0x0000000000000103 x22: 0x00000002020ffb60 x23: 0x000002094c88f008 x24: 0x000000016bce9e01 x25: 0x0000000000000008 x26: 0x00000000000002c0 x27: 0x0000000163bfb7d0 x28: 0x0000000163bfb840 fp: 0x00000001048d9910 lr: 0x00000001a6d98cec sp: 0x00000001048d98f0 pc: 0x00000001a6d621b0 cpsr: 0x40001000 far: 0x000001374cb34000 esr: 0x56000080 Address size fault Binary Images: 0x1a6d59000 - 0x1a6d91ff3 libsystem_kernel.dylib (*) <aebf397e-e2ef-3a49-be58-23d4558511f6> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a6d92000 - 0x1a6d9effb libsystem_pthread.dylib (*) <132084c6-c347-3489-9ac2-fcaad21cdb73> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a6c59000 - 0x1a6cd9ff3 libsystem_c.dylib (*) <756cd0d2-3241-3a74-8c59-02632dcee221> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib 0x104110000 - 0x104367fff org.gnu.Emacs (Version 29.0.60) <05fbbbfb-3405-3d9f-a7a0-4fd6430863ba> /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs 0x1a6dc3000 - 0x1a6dcaffb libsystem_platform.dylib (*) <b215ae90-4ed2-3fcd-8ccc-6c0d93cc4f41> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_platform.dylib 0x0 - 0xffffffffffffffff ??? (*) <00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000> ??? 0x1a6a6a000 - 0x1a6af4b63 dyld (*) <487cfdeb-9b07-39bf-bfb9-970b61aea2d1> /usr/lib/dyld 0x10b100000 - 0x10b107fff timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln (*) <0f550bba-4a80-3546-98fe-a92aa0d14158> /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/native-lisp/29.0.60-c7b10636/preloaded/timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln 0x10513c000 - 0x105223fff libglib-2.0.0.dylib (*) <f593e720-37ac-3b64-8d96-f9c330062fec> /opt/homebrew/*/libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x1a7d23000 - 0x1a875bfff com.apple.Foundation (6.9) <f1f5f857-8c3c-36d5-bc27-7702d6795468> /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation 0x1a6df7000 - 0x1a72cefff com.apple.CoreFoundation (6.9) <fd16d6d9-10c0-323b-b43b-9781c4a4d268> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation 0x1aa0bf000 - 0x1aafc9fff com.apple.AppKit (6.9) <dbbd4dea-6c68-3200-a81b-79b6a62f4669> /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit External Modification Summary: Calls made by other processes targeting this process: task_for_pid: 9464 thread_create: 0 thread_set_state: 0 Calls made by this process: task_for_pid: 0 thread_create: 0 thread_set_state: 0 Calls made by all processes on this machine: task_for_pid: 532120 thread_create: 0 thread_set_state: 48
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[217.227.99.238]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n25-20020a7bc5d9000000b003d969a595fbsm9743766wmk.10.2022.12.24.21.30.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Dec 2022 21:30:46 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 06:30:35 +0100 Message-Id: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48zVqcxP3CvQNfccZHuKn0JyVL2y+TQoxvJd-yTG1nPCgQ@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20C65) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Could well be. I=E2=80=99ve heard that one has to jump to similar hoops of u= sing a helper process to add an app to startup items for instance, to satisf= y launchd so to speak. And the application icon is also a launchd thing, as i= s the whole starting of an an application bundle=E2=80=A6 Sent from my iPhone > On 24. Dec 2022, at 16:11, Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 12:56 AM Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>= wrote: >>=20 >>> On 12/22/22 18:22, Aaron Jensen wrote: >>> Task policy >>> set failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument) >>=20 >> A Google search reports that message only here: >>=20 >> https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/670595 >>=20 >> and that was solved by invoking Apple support. Is that something you can d= o? >=20 > I don't know if it's related or just because I am running in the > XCode's debugger, but when I do that, I see additional messages: >=20 > 2022-12-24 10:05:30.309314-0500 emacs[5082:176291] [assertion] Error > acquiring assertion: <Error Domain=3DRBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=3D2 > "Specified target process does not exist" > UserInfo=3D{NSLocalizedFailureReason=3DSpecified target process does not > exist}> >=20 > 2022-12-24 10:05:30.309369-0500 emacs[5082:176291] [process] Failed to > acquire AppNap adapter assertion with error Error > Domain=3DRBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=3D2 "Specified target process does > not exist" UserInfo=3D{NSLocalizedFailureReason=3DSpecified target process= > does not exist} >=20 > 2022-12-24 10:05:30.309394-0500 emacs[5082:176291] Task policy set > failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument) >=20 > Also, when running from the `src/emacs` binary, after a restart the > application icon in macOS changes to the terminal icon with the word > `exec` in it. >=20 > Per: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27479801/restart-application-prog= rammatically > and: http://13bold.com/tutorials/relaunching-your-application/ >=20 > I wonder if this method of restarting is just not the right idea on > macOS and it either needs to be relaunched with a helper utility or in > a completely separate process directly as described in some of the > further down stackoverflow answers. >=20 > Aaron
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Is that something you can do? I don't know if it's related or just because I am running in the XCode's debugger, but when I do that, I see additional messages: 2022-12-24 10:05:30.309314-0500 emacs[5082:176291] [assertion] Error acquiring assertion: <Error Domain=RBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=2 "Specified target process does not exist" UserInfo={NSLocalizedFailureReason=Specified target process does not exist}> 2022-12-24 10:05:30.309369-0500 emacs[5082:176291] [process] Failed to acquire AppNap adapter assertion with error Error Domain=RBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=2 "Specified target process does not exist" UserInfo={NSLocalizedFailureReason=Specified target process does not exist} 2022-12-24 10:05:30.309394-0500 emacs[5082:176291] Task policy set failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument) Also, when running from the `src/emacs` binary, after a restart the application icon in macOS changes to the terminal icon with the word `exec` in it. Per: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27479801/restart-application-programmatically and: http://13bold.com/tutorials/relaunching-your-application/ I wonder if this method of restarting is just not the right idea on macOS and it either needs to be relaunched with a helper utility or in a completely separate process directly as described in some of the further down stackoverflow answers. Aaron
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[217.227.105.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j10-20020adff54a000000b002420d51e581sm2190347wrp.67.2022.12.22.21.33.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:33:51 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:33:40 +0100 Message-Id: <41885A5E-40E9-48CD-ABF8-C4C1618793DD@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48ytPX1uVpyE92bmsCDQ7ie4BEPc8xp2hAQ6GVaMfcjttQ@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48ytPX1uVpyE92bmsCDQ7ie4BEPc8xp2hAQ6GVaMfcjttQ@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20C65) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Can=E2=80=99t say anything useful with regard to these logs I=E2=80=99m afra= id.=20 Sent from my iPhone > On 23. Dec 2022, at 03:22, Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 9:06 PM Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> w= rote: >>=20 >>> On 12/22/22 00:18, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Paul, could you perhaps audit the code which implements restart-emacs, >>> and see if we need to make it safer, in particular wrt signals and >>> *.eln files loaded via dynlib. >>=20 >> I don't offhand see why anything would need to be done other than turn >> off timer signals to the execed process. Something like the attached >> patch, perhaps. Aaron, could you give it a try? >=20 > Thank you, this certainly changes things. I don't get the sig 14 > anymore in the debugger and it successfully restarts every time while > in the debugger. I will try using it for a while and see how that > goes. >=20 > I don't know if this is significant or not, but when I restart an > Emacs run from the terminal, or in the debugger, I see "Task policy > set failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument)" printed to stderr. >=20 > (lldb) process launch > Process 13113 launched: 'src/emacs' (arm64) > Process 13113 stopped > * thread #8, stop reason =3D exec > frame #0: 0x0000000100934950 dyld`_dyld_start > dyld`: > -> 0x100934950 <+0>: mov x0, sp > 0x100934954 <+4>: and sp, x0, #0xfffffffffffffff0 > 0x100934958 <+8>: mov x29, #0x0 > 0x10093495c <+12>: mov x30, #0x0 > Target 0: (emacs) stopped. > (lldb) thread list > Process 13113 stopped > * thread #8: tid =3D 0x37d5ee, 0x0000000100934950 dyld`_dyld_start, stop > reason =3D exec > (lldb) continue > Process 13113 resuming > 2022-12-22 21:09:48.439039-0500 emacs[13113:3659246] [assertion] Error > acquiring assertion: <Error Domain=3DRBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=3D2 > "Specified target process does not exist" > UserInfo=3D{NSLocalizedFailureReason=3DSpecified target process does not > exist}> > 2022-12-22 21:09:48.439086-0500 emacs[13113:3659246] [process] Failed > to acquire AppNap adapter assertion with error Error > Domain=3DRBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=3D2 "Specified target process does > not exist" UserInfo=3D{NSLocalizedFailureReason=3DSpecified target process= > does not exist} > 2022-12-22 21:09:48.439102-0500 emacs[13113:3659246] Task policy set > failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument)
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Something like the attached > patch, perhaps. Aaron, could you give it a try? Thank you, this certainly changes things. I don't get the sig 14 anymore in the debugger and it successfully restarts every time while in the debugger. I will try using it for a while and see how that goes. I don't know if this is significant or not, but when I restart an Emacs run from the terminal, or in the debugger, I see "Task policy set failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument)" printed to stderr. (lldb) process launch Process 13113 launched: 'src/emacs' (arm64) Process 13113 stopped * thread #8, stop reason = exec frame #0: 0x0000000100934950 dyld`_dyld_start dyld`: -> 0x100934950 <+0>: mov x0, sp 0x100934954 <+4>: and sp, x0, #0xfffffffffffffff0 0x100934958 <+8>: mov x29, #0x0 0x10093495c <+12>: mov x30, #0x0 Target 0: (emacs) stopped. (lldb) thread list Process 13113 stopped * thread #8: tid = 0x37d5ee, 0x0000000100934950 dyld`_dyld_start, stop reason = exec (lldb) continue Process 13113 resuming 2022-12-22 21:09:48.439039-0500 emacs[13113:3659246] [assertion] Error acquiring assertion: <Error Domain=RBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=2 "Specified target process does not exist" UserInfo={NSLocalizedFailureReason=Specified target process does not exist}> 2022-12-22 21:09:48.439086-0500 emacs[13113:3659246] [process] Failed to acquire AppNap adapter assertion with error Error Domain=RBSAssertionErrorDomain Code=2 "Specified target process does not exist" UserInfo={NSLocalizedFailureReason=Specified target process does not exist} 2022-12-22 21:09:48.439102-0500 emacs[13113:3659246] Task policy set failed: 4 ((os/kern) invalid argument)
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2022 02:06:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 21:06:06 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p8XRl-0000mO-LZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:06:05 -0500 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41726) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1p8XRj-0000m1-Qw for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:06:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F863160084; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id WvjOSwzGLVTq; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:05:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E168160086; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:05:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 zimbra.cs.ucla.edu 3E168160086 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.ucla.edu; s=78364E5A-2AF3-11ED-87FA-8298ECA2D365; t=1671761156; bh=l0CjEVsIXoSVCVSice1Yhm81CfKlUR0oos62t4XqQwk=; h=Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:From; b=q8s1u+o4aZz6U02eTqJRTrFb5Hal98crEyitI6OcCZ0RZsGK3nLe/HNoV8IAca8Ik HzDYPwT0C6gffzlN0ax2ho5qVo2vNK2LPhQquN4JEJcNAFRxcH7BBsAA3gEAvomGlW V4c8AP/bbx3PzRXAM0MeFj3aimCafU848GqwYx1k= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id dA6JQGuQdz94; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:05:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.86.236] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A20A160084; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:05:56 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------NOCjM0I9EAzx7ItQrRJ0Rwzu" Message-ID: <dd474f0f-0b72-b9e0-6017-797ae801e1da@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:05:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, =?UTF-8?Q?Gerd_M=c3=b6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48wJribLJHo46fWK=o4mh-tsv=YMHbTvJSqrfuh0cyjLOQ@HIDDEN> <9D33F867-56DD-4612-9E21-ADC1AA09E5CB@HIDDEN> <831qoram2m.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <831qoram2m.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------NOCjM0I9EAzx7ItQrRJ0Rwzu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12/22/22 00:18, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Paul, could you perhaps audit the code which implements restart-emacs, > and see if we need to make it safer, in particular wrt signals and > *.eln files loaded via dynlib. I don't offhand see why anything would need to be done other than turn off timer signals to the execed process. Something like the attached patch, perhaps. 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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 08:18:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 03:18:34 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56907 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p8Gmg-0004Ac-26 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:18:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p8Gme-0004AV-KP for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:18:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p8GmY-0006zC-HX; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:18:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=NIYFto7mkHsWbMI/Yt0yIOqOzVG9dp226Lsvo/Gevyk=; b=dUR6OStjBNfzXsBgFovx E5HzAIr+LI4Tfl0ehux/qXIEc8m4nUow5chVxvxAvbxWA4UDiuPRDLPv/i41zrkpSBL/PayLF6vAE /N55EsGnZr3NtSkjlGMYR40u+yMek/xuL1eLLXr9NEA6z+chJ8YFCnxEMHkaWzoUDgh4anZH0kp3M Tqg+BeRw7Etx7SZq+biUBmfJx6QFPpO3yoaFQwHxURgVd5N9977ToORK8tzsgRTP6aLNkGyPZA+vp mlJlckzq5bl29eIHQpEthNmkZHhxEIajPhpYWAZ3HvfcL7zlJfP76DyBsscHLioY3rWV+j6ytDCaB o4nVSrHJG7XOwg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p8GmW-0000Ex-RB; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:18:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:18:09 +0200 Message-Id: <831qoram2m.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <9D33F867-56DD-4612-9E21-ADC1AA09E5CB@HIDDEN> (message from Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:36:43 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs References: <CAHyO48wJribLJHo46fWK=o4mh-tsv=YMHbTvJSqrfuh0cyjLOQ@HIDDEN> <9D33F867-56DD-4612-9E21-ADC1AA09E5CB@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:36:43 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > I was more thinking of something like this: > > A SIGALRM handler is installed in the original process. SIGALRM continues to be delivered to the new process after execve but the signal handler is now the default handler which terminates the process. > > The man pages I mentioned should say somewhere if that’s plausible. It looks to me like that could be what’s happening. But it’s a guess. > > If it is that, one would need to arrange for SIGALRM to be ignored before execve and reinitialize a timers in the new process. Or something like that. Yes, I think our implementation of restart-emacs might be too naïve. Paul, could you perhaps audit the code which implements restart-emacs, and see if we need to make it safer, in particular wrt signals and *.eln files loaded via dynlib. Note that on Posix platforms we currently load *.eln files with RTLD_LAZY and without RTLD_GLOBAL -- is this of any significance for "restarting" Emacs that was built with native-compilation enabled and has *.eln files loaded? Maybe we need to unload the *.eln before calling execvp? Or maybe we should consider re-implementing restart-emacs in some different way, to avoid these problems? Thanks.
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[217.227.102.83]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s4-20020a05600c384400b003c6bd12ac27sm4247963wmr.37.2022.12.21.21.36.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:36:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:36:43 +0100 Message-Id: <9D33F867-56DD-4612-9E21-ADC1AA09E5CB@HIDDEN> References: <CAHyO48wJribLJHo46fWK=o4mh-tsv=YMHbTvJSqrfuh0cyjLOQ@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48wJribLJHo46fWK=o4mh-tsv=YMHbTvJSqrfuh0cyjLOQ@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20C65) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I was more thinking of something like this: A SIGALRM handler is installed in the original process. SIGALRM continues to= be delivered to the new process after execve but the signal handler is now t= he default handler which terminates the process.=20 The man pages I mentioned should say somewhere if that=E2=80=99s plausible. I= t looks to me like that could be what=E2=80=99s happening. But it=E2=80=99s a= guess.=20 If it is that, one would need to arrange for SIGALRM to be ignored before ex= ecve and reinitialize a timers in the new process. Or something like that.=20= Sent from my iPhone > On 22. Dec 2022, at 06:12, Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:09 AM Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.= com> wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:29 AM Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail= .com> wrote: >>>=20 >>> If I remember that correctly, installed signal handlers don=E2=80=99t su= rvive process replacement. The man pages for execve and sigaction should tel= l. >>=20 >> If I'm reading this correctly, that is the case: >>=20 >> Signals set to be ignored in the calling process are set to be ignored >> in the new process. Signals which are set to be caught in the calling >> process image are set to default action in the new process image. >> Blocked >> signals remain blocked regardless of changes to the signal action. >> The signal stack is reset to be undefined (see sigaction(2) for more >> information). >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I have not had a crash today. I have also not restarted Emacs via restart= -emacs. >=20 >=20 > Is this of any relevance? >=20 > File descriptors open in the calling process image remain open in the > new process image, except for those for which the close-on-exec flag > is set (see close(2) and fcntl(2)). Descriptors that remain open are > unaffected by execve(). >=20 > Aaron
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The man pages for execve and sigaction should t= ell. > > If I'm reading this correctly, that is the case: > > Signals set to be ignored in the calling process are set to be ignored > in the new process. Signals which are set to be caught in the calling > process image are set to default action in the new process image. > Blocked > signals remain blocked regardless of changes to the signal action. > The signal stack is reset to be undefined (see sigaction(2) for more > information). > > > > I have not had a crash today. I have also not restarted Emacs via restart= -emacs. Is this of any relevance? File descriptors open in the calling process image remain open in the new process image, except for those for which the close-on-exec flag is set (see close(2) and fcntl(2)). Descriptors that remain open are unaffected by execve(). Aaron
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[217.227.105.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id az17-20020a05600c601100b003cfa81e2eb4sm2298232wmb.38.2022.12.21.05.29.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Dec 2022 05:29:38 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:29:27 +0100 Message-Id: <2A22C718-57EA-4B8C-B931-5A3A87191DCD@HIDDEN> References: <83bknxaqvl.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83bknxaqvl.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20C65) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) If I remember that correctly, installed signal handlers don=E2=80=99t surviv= e process replacement. The man pages for execve and sigaction should tell.=20= If that=E2=80=99s the case the new process has a default handler for SIGALRM= which terminates.=20 But please check the man pages if that=E2=80=99s true.=20 Sent from my iPhone > On 21. Dec 2022, at 13:22, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> >> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 22:47:46 -0500 >> Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >>>> Process 19414 exited with status =3D 14 (0x0000000e) Terminated due to s= ignal 14 >>>=20 >>> What is "signal 14" on macOS? >>=20 >> This is all I could find: >>=20 >> 14 SIGALRM terminate process real-time timer expired >>=20 >> I'm able to reproduce the above without native compilation as well. >> This particular thing only happens when in a lldb and doesn't affect >> me in practice. >=20 > The only place we use SIGALRM in Emacs is in interval timesr (see > atimer.c), which are used for stuff like hour-glass cursor and input > polling. >=20 > Once again, this might mean we are not cleaning up the process state > before calling execvp. But that is just a speculation. >=20 >>> Anyway, look at the code: we restart by calling execvp. You or >>> someone who knowns macOS internals should take a look at what that >>> means for shared libraries which were loaded by the program that calls >>> execvp -- what happens with those libraries in the execvp'ed process. >>> I'm guessing that they are not being unloaded and re-loaded by the new >>> process, or something to that effect. >>>=20 >>> Or maybe the way we load the *.eln files causes this, triggered by >>> 'execvp'? >>=20 >> This is out of my depth. >=20 > Mine as well. Gerd, any ideas or hints? >=20 >> I did a tiny bit of digging and didn't find anything. >=20 > Likewise. >=20 >>> Can you try running for a while Emacs built without native compilation >>> and restarting it? That could tell us whether the *.eln files are the >>> problem. >>=20 >> I wasn't able to reproduce it w/o native compilation. I'm going to try >> running w/ native compilation for a while *without* doing any restarts >> and see if I can get it to crash. I've seen crashes take an hour+ >> after a restart (though most happen w/in 30 seconds). I can't say >> definitively that all crashes have happened in a restarted process. >=20 > OK, thanks.
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The only place we use SIGALRM in Emacs is in interval timesr (see atimer.c), which are used for stuff like hour-glass cursor and input polling. Once again, this might mean we are not cleaning up the process state before calling execvp. But that is just a speculation. > > Anyway, look at the code: we restart by calling execvp. You or > > someone who knowns macOS internals should take a look at what that > > means for shared libraries which were loaded by the program that calls > > execvp -- what happens with those libraries in the execvp'ed process. > > I'm guessing that they are not being unloaded and re-loaded by the new > > process, or something to that effect. > > > > Or maybe the way we load the *.eln files causes this, triggered by > > 'execvp'? > > This is out of my depth. Mine as well. Gerd, any ideas or hints? > I did a tiny bit of digging and didn't find anything. Likewise. > > Can you try running for a while Emacs built without native compilation > > and restarting it? That could tell us whether the *.eln files are the > > problem. > > I wasn't able to reproduce it w/o native compilation. I'm going to try > running w/ native compilation for a while *without* doing any restarts > and see if I can get it to crash. I've seen crashes take an hour+ > after a restart (though most happen w/in 30 seconds). I can't say > definitively that all crashes have happened in a restarted process. OK, thanks.
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That doesn't mean > > > the problem is in rng-loc's code. The fatal signal comes from the > > > maxOS implementation of dlopen, so I suspect that the way we restart > > > Emacs messes up some OS data structures regarding loaded shared > > > libraries or something. > > > > > > Note that the previous crash you posted also crashes inside dlopen. > > > > > > So I think it's safe to say that restarting Emacs makes loading of > > > *.eln files (and maybe share libraries in general) fragile and tending > > > to crash, for some reason. Maybe we should explicitly unload all the > > > *.eln files when we restart? > > > > Interesting. If I restart while launched from lldb, I get the below. > > It happens right away and it doesn't actually restart. This is not the > > behavior I see if I launch it normally or in xcode. I should note that > > occasionally when I restart Emacs it just quits and does not restart. > > I have to restart it manually. Perhaps this is all connected to the > > issue you're suggesting. > > > > (lldb) process launch > > Process 19414 launched: 'src/emacs' (arm64) > > Process 19414 stopped > > * thread #8, stop reason = exec > > frame #0: 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start > > dyld`: > > -> 0x100b2c950 <+0>: mov x0, sp > > 0x100b2c954 <+4>: and sp, x0, #0xfffffffffffffff0 > > 0x100b2c958 <+8>: mov x29, #0x0 > > 0x100b2c95c <+12>: mov x30, #0x0 > > Target 0: (emacs) stopped. > > (lldb) thread list > > Process 19414 stopped > > * thread #8: tid = 0x3026c, 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start, stop > > reason = exec > > (lldb) thread backtrace > > * thread #8, stop reason = exec > > * frame #0: 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start > > (lldb) continue > > Process 19414 resuming > > Process 19414 exited with status = 14 (0x0000000e) Terminated due to signal 14 > > What is "signal 14" on macOS? This is all I could find: 14 SIGALRM terminate process real-time timer expired I'm able to reproduce the above without native compilation as well. This particular thing only happens when in a lldb and doesn't affect me in practice. > Anyway, look at the code: we restart by calling execvp. You or > someone who knowns macOS internals should take a look at what that > means for shared libraries which were loaded by the program that calls > execvp -- what happens with those libraries in the execvp'ed process. > I'm guessing that they are not being unloaded and re-loaded by the new > process, or something to that effect. > > Or maybe the way we load the *.eln files causes this, triggered by > 'execvp'? This is out of my depth. I did a tiny bit of digging and didn't find anything. I'll keep looking but if someone is more familiar w/ this they'd have more luck than me I'm sure. > Can you try running for a while Emacs built without native compilation > and restarting it? That could tell us whether the *.eln files are the > problem. I wasn't able to reproduce it w/o native compilation. I'm going to try running w/ native compilation for a while *without* doing any restarts and see if I can get it to crash. I've seen crashes take an hour+ after a restart (though most happen w/in 30 seconds). I can't say definitively that all crashes have happened in a restarted process. Aaron
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2022 17:22:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 12:22:55 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46095 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p7gKN-0007Ao-8A for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:22:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p7gKL-0007Ag-IO for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:22:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p7gKF-0004K7-KF; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:22:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ltKAEOxoZyoTpYoLG6vWB1ISvinR2Jgz838Oph/R70U=; b=DXy2kzkl8GWv Alvgmo1kFk/s9h86ptL4x1rdJnhYri8EXfbIrV/66b7TdtflS8xJw1FS39JOLz3bqvx2DvyqIjz/v ge1oQcqs4SoBD23FadAxjEdbPWHbvwX+iQnQ3N/iz4OfC1RtPfkImNESMCp2zlw7EtjzZCLX4yVm/ X431nE4tsIKGmQPXD2oQ6glDUuIFuR9+11C4D7CDXASZreiDeUOhURBiXoOYegH5/RKOb7EC1Ik7S rSTaAoTwiKEqJ7Mo6erRQU+x5V7h0zglHzvqbwRLQyynZWBLJP6tkkCQ7rI5p14vfAbScqknUsZxK 9fWMUUkGb0V0Jcr+eyas6g==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p7gKE-0005Vn-Lg; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:22:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 19:23:00 +0200 Message-Id: <83r0wuat1n.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48ziSGb4WEdwZ+OnjAbMq1uar2Z6BEdu-x0Gv+fR7BJiSw@HIDDEN> (message from Aaron Jensen on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:59:20 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs References: <m2y1r2rtyi.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48zg7sXKF8G_v7LdZxxfWtVsCdGQScEJsgnNfDkE9h=Z0Q@HIDDEN> <83y1r2axrn.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAHyO48ziSGb4WEdwZ+OnjAbMq1uar2Z6BEdu-x0Gv+fR7BJiSw@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:59:20 -0500 > Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:40 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > > AFAIU, it says that Emacs was _loading_ rng-loc. That doesn't mean > > the problem is in rng-loc's code. The fatal signal comes from the > > maxOS implementation of dlopen, so I suspect that the way we restart > > Emacs messes up some OS data structures regarding loaded shared > > libraries or something. > > > > Note that the previous crash you posted also crashes inside dlopen. > > > > So I think it's safe to say that restarting Emacs makes loading of > > *.eln files (and maybe share libraries in general) fragile and tending > > to crash, for some reason. Maybe we should explicitly unload all the > > *.eln files when we restart? > > Interesting. If I restart while launched from lldb, I get the below. > It happens right away and it doesn't actually restart. This is not the > behavior I see if I launch it normally or in xcode. I should note that > occasionally when I restart Emacs it just quits and does not restart. > I have to restart it manually. Perhaps this is all connected to the > issue you're suggesting. > > (lldb) process launch > Process 19414 launched: 'src/emacs' (arm64) > Process 19414 stopped > * thread #8, stop reason = exec > frame #0: 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start > dyld`: > -> 0x100b2c950 <+0>: mov x0, sp > 0x100b2c954 <+4>: and sp, x0, #0xfffffffffffffff0 > 0x100b2c958 <+8>: mov x29, #0x0 > 0x100b2c95c <+12>: mov x30, #0x0 > Target 0: (emacs) stopped. > (lldb) thread list > Process 19414 stopped > * thread #8: tid = 0x3026c, 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start, stop > reason = exec > (lldb) thread backtrace > * thread #8, stop reason = exec > * frame #0: 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start > (lldb) continue > Process 19414 resuming > Process 19414 exited with status = 14 (0x0000000e) Terminated due to signal 14 What is "signal 14" on macOS? Anyway, look at the code: we restart by calling execvp. You or someone who knowns macOS internals should take a look at what that means for shared libraries which were loaded by the program that calls execvp -- what happens with those libraries in the execvp'ed process. I'm guessing that they are not being unloaded and re-loaded by the new process, or something to that effect. Or maybe the way we load the *.eln files causes this, triggered by 'execvp'? Can you try running for a while Emacs built without native compilation and restarting it? That could tell us whether the *.eln files are the problem.
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It's slightly > > different. This one seems to point to rng-loc at least as part of the > > trace. > > AFAIU, it says that Emacs was _loading_ rng-loc. That doesn't mean > the problem is in rng-loc's code. The fatal signal comes from the > maxOS implementation of dlopen, so I suspect that the way we restart > Emacs messes up some OS data structures regarding loaded shared > libraries or something. > > Note that the previous crash you posted also crashes inside dlopen. > > So I think it's safe to say that restarting Emacs makes loading of > *.eln files (and maybe share libraries in general) fragile and tending > to crash, for some reason. Maybe we should explicitly unload all the > *.eln files when we restart? Interesting. If I restart while launched from lldb, I get the below. It happens right away and it doesn't actually restart. This is not the behavior I see if I launch it normally or in xcode. I should note that occasionally when I restart Emacs it just quits and does not restart. I have to restart it manually. Perhaps this is all connected to the issue you're suggesting. (lldb) process launch Process 19414 launched: 'src/emacs' (arm64) Process 19414 stopped * thread #8, stop reason = exec frame #0: 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start dyld`: -> 0x100b2c950 <+0>: mov x0, sp 0x100b2c954 <+4>: and sp, x0, #0xfffffffffffffff0 0x100b2c958 <+8>: mov x29, #0x0 0x100b2c95c <+12>: mov x30, #0x0 Target 0: (emacs) stopped. (lldb) thread list Process 19414 stopped * thread #8: tid = 0x3026c, 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start, stop reason = exec (lldb) thread backtrace * thread #8, stop reason = exec * frame #0: 0x0000000100b2c950 dyld`_dyld_start (lldb) continue Process 19414 resuming Process 19414 exited with status = 14 (0x0000000e) Terminated due to signal 14
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2022 15:36:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 10:36:29 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45563 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p7efN-0005vO-4Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:36:29 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f45.google.com ([209.85.216.45]:41524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>) id 1p7efK-0005vH-Sb for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:36:27 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f45.google.com with SMTP id n65-20020a17090a2cc700b0021bc5ef7a14so12547870pjd.0 for <60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:36:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8ofHQuZg79jIVAQ3/THN895VugIS8EXHXIYAhIksTFU=; b=iN4U0XZ26Wx7q7AGAHLjhnwGDt1GdbxIaDqzPjO27i4Qut7lHwqWyqng+QHqQGH2xk 62CBt9Ctg6cKFCQluykZLKTovdgYdk3s4souzyOCtMZ+nfoVadNOhXegYYrWzh+E1U9W uA/p5p/lEorHTWi3vyqixx64J3CxV1cdJY7TQe5Z6R7GRBFNpbb6TOWv/Mb3SJKc1WRL KQ5rUw4ZLgwGqWPM0bVC3li/Jgy610wl7qofFwiOvlz+wZC4iQYisJJT4ljyHeimGdDP M+mAmtznIlUtN0SmwAkbQh44t5NUYJG3Y7UK/lQujPe96KTimNYw03+DuAhlizND0QJt 4FFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=8ofHQuZg79jIVAQ3/THN895VugIS8EXHXIYAhIksTFU=; b=rQ+ihwKYd9huOp6bF0zOAGksyOfZGYQg9m3h3QqLo/tMa1lgBeNPfNqa3Oq9ZoHI4p kJ+SBMmc1gqxsBsx9Kn0n1RWSPgUQspRwlGh+AJXVlLu3gHwQTXWVv8+3QkH8ltYMSQC bTZFOadPPInLZQtM/nSV3sPpkEzqE2Ogl6aeLhi0b9/X+1CGfyqZPYeNOW/v/T2NgX/p Nr2Rpe8mEjEgJN2olQdLqOA4Q/MmZc2SYhDu0DyCMemttqQ8KNmqQ900gGLpRnZNgBRh rZlX5uwGDvFotP9EUh3CQau7Q1brMRR/7TqumU5ff4hCJ2vJYqkIcxeRNiOiwXcL9xyR wcqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqDA6VG56aAJlrNUe5hkCBFADfCBsIBgaFq0IeZKVRmeQixONe+ 3tCMaMY/5/cloGmzVUyhQnNJheguGieduO47aPE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvUGDXhbJX8bFQZiUMAmbxfBZpG+8zLiXZu872+3jOpOHKdSvRvjYehGRUUErXb1RlFqALkrYnJA3N5UUPg8r8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:a00c:b0:219:38b7:fdd2 with SMTP id q12-20020a17090aa00c00b0021938b7fdd2mr2233952pjp.114.1671550580870; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:36:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <m2y1r2rtyi.fsf@HIDDEN> <83359accr1.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83359accr1.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:36:09 -0500 Message-ID: <CAHyO48z9WTgKSLdWCq9U9gj+9s1zMUHNtEOg3madgFyY5Pjbkw@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:31 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> > > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:11:17 -0500 > > > > > > I've been seeing this crash somewhat frequently recently on emacs-29 > > master. It's possibly since updating to macOS Ventura (13.1). I can't > > seem to reproduce it with debug symbols and a debugger attached, so this > > may be the best I can provide right now. It tends to happen shortly > > after I restart Emacs using `restart-emacs'. It also just happened > > randomly while I didn't even have Emacs focused. I believe I have seen > > it happen once when starting Emacs without a restart. > > I guess it means restarting Emacs on macOS is not safe. Possibly. There's a lot going on in my config so I'm trying to pare it down. I'll see if I can narrow it or eliminate it. It could be some stale bytecode or binaries from my previous version of Emacs and/or macOS dependencies. I'll effectively start from scratch and see if that helps. Aaron
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Full text available.Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2022 15:31:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 10:31:58 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p7eb0-0005rl-DU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:31:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p7eaw-0005rY-Se for 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:31:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p7ear-0002r2-Bf; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:31:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=llHGrQC8nkrMQtW4Q8ev0/TP+BEvnNnsFBwZXP9IidI=; b=LAKryY/pW7Zd Nx6VaUEeAC4ymHcGCltObGb1JsdEgLj0QmzXERsovQmG9Mzs26opyk2x1oUYp31xu9hJjSDLB7WKw YL/783padus93OYbqn4nP3HewAS3JM2UvH6bt9zSTgfxyUAYr7Mbub63Nz8I/AU+ijJOOCR1TrIOX yDacvtosu+hZkucFZiV6cfBx5FCGCprhrvdMcLzKK43pSYQA3RwaYafjYiyYVzvOXnzdqszAbiP/s +eHc3hIUDTxAPcH9aXXiagIfzPQWwRH7ssYNbqb0dCYaaCK3pF+SEFMBKSvgDh+Kx0JIzMsviK60K Vqi9kyeqLQ4aFMjXq0tfJw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1p7eaq-0004LM-O7; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:31:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 17:32:02 +0200 Message-Id: <83359accr1.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <m2y1r2rtyi.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Aaron Jensen on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:11:17 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs References: <m2y1r2rtyi.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60220 Cc: 60220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:11:17 -0500 > > > I've been seeing this crash somewhat frequently recently on emacs-29 > master. It's possibly since updating to macOS Ventura (13.1). I can't > seem to reproduce it with debug symbols and a debugger attached, so this > may be the best I can provide right now. It tends to happen shortly > after I restart Emacs using `restart-emacs'. It also just happened > randomly while I didn't even have Emacs focused. I believe I have seen > it happen once when starting Emacs without a restart. I guess it means restarting Emacs on macOS is not safe.
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It's slightly different. This one seems to point to rng-loc at least as part of the trace. ------------------------------------- Translated Report (Full Report Below) ------------------------------------- Process: Emacs [18694] Path: /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs Version: Version 29.0.60 (9.0) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2022-12-20 10:22:50.8160 -0500 OS Version: macOS 13.1 (22C65) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: CD1F31D7-5E61-2935-643D-55F58CD29C12 Sleep/Wake UUID: 254FA28B-6F01-412E-8D38-DE2EC5BE8B25 Time Awake Since Boot: 17000 seconds Time Since Wake: 1554 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x612f737265735627 -> 0x0000737265735627 (possible pointer authentication failure) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x612f737265735627 VM Region Info: 0x737265735627 is not in any region. Bytes after previous region: 21381512386088 REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 600018000000-600020000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=NUL ...(unallocated) ---> UNUSED SPACE AT END Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1820921b0 __pthread_kill + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c8cec pthread_kill + 288 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x181fcaa50 raise + 32 3 Emacs 0x1045f5af4 terminate_due_to_signal + 204 4 Emacs 0x1045f62f0 emacs_abort + 20 5 Emacs 0x1045c4db8 ns_term_shutdown + 132 6 Emacs 0x1044b0b9c shut_down_emacs + 332 7 Emacs 0x1045f5abc terminate_due_to_signal + 148 8 Emacs 0x1044d308c handle_fatal_signal + 16 9 Emacs 0x1044d3108 deliver_thread_signal + 124 10 Emacs 0x1044d1708 deliver_fatal_thread_signal + 12 11 Emacs 0x1044d3168 handle_sigsegv + 96 12 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x1820f72a4 _sigtramp + 56 13 ??? 0xffff800181dce730 ??? 14 dyld 0x181dc9a7c lsl::PersistentAllocator::reserveRange(lsl::BTree<lsl::Allocator::Buffer, lsl::PersistentAllocator::RegionSizeCompare, false>::const_iterator&, lsl::Allocator::Buffer) + 392 15 dyld 0x181dca0b0 lsl::PersistentAllocator::allocate_buffer(unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long, lsl::Allocator**) + 624 16 dyld 0x181dc91e0 lsl::Allocator::aligned_alloc(unsigned long, unsigned long) + 180 17 dyld 0x181dc9230 lsl::Allocator::strdup(char const*) + 48 18 dyld 0x181dc68b8 dyld4::FileManager::fileRecordForPath(char const*) + 40 19 dyld 0x181de4624 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::readMappedFileInfo(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>&, unsigned long long&, lsl::UUID&, dyld4::FileRecord&) + 132 20 dyld 0x181de3170 dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::Serializer::deserialize(std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 928 21 dyld 0x181de2cec dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot::ProcessSnapshot(lsl::Allocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul>) + 304 22 dyld 0x181daef64 lsl::UniquePtr<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot> lsl::Allocator::makeUnique<dyld4::Atlas::ProcessSnapshot, lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&>(lsl::EphemeralAllocator&, dyld4::FileManager&, bool&&, std::__1::span<std::byte, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 80 23 dyld 0x181dabafc dyld4::RuntimeState::getCurrentProcessSnapshot() + 96 24 dyld 0x181dab8cc dyld4::RuntimeState::notifyDebuggerLoad(std::__1::span<dyld4::Loader const*, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 72 25 dyld 0x181ddaf3c dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*)::$_0::operator()() const + 748 26 dyld 0x181dd4968 dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*) + 892 27 Emacs 0x104578db8 Fnative_elisp_load + 356 28 Emacs 0x104554894 Fload + 2104 29 Emacs 0x1045565f8 save_match_data_load + 92 30 Emacs 0x104530930 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 31 Emacs 0x10453cd8c Frequire + 560 32 Emacs 0x10456f948 exec_byte_code + 2988 33 Emacs 0x10456ed6c Fbyte_code + 140 34 Emacs 0x10452ca38 eval_sub + 2236 35 Emacs 0x104530a54 Feval + 88 36 rng-loc-798ea863-2dd98436.eln 0x13e19abdc top_level_run + 172 37 Emacs 0x1045785cc load_comp_unit + 844 38 Emacs 0x104578e10 Fnative_elisp_load + 444 39 Emacs 0x104554894 Fload + 2104 40 Emacs 0x1045565f8 save_match_data_load + 92 41 Emacs 0x104530930 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 42 Emacs 0x10453cd8c Frequire + 560 43 Emacs 0x10456f948 exec_byte_code + 2988 44 Emacs 0x10456ed6c Fbyte_code + 140 45 Emacs 0x10452ca38 eval_sub + 2236 46 Emacs 0x104530a54 Feval + 88 47 ox-odt-c6038b82-f0fa0d16.eln 0x14e65dab4 top_level_run + 2628 48 Emacs 0x1045785cc load_comp_unit + 844 49 Emacs 0x104578e10 Fnative_elisp_load + 444 50 Emacs 0x104554894 Fload + 2104 51 Emacs 0x1045565f8 save_match_data_load + 92 52 Emacs 0x104530930 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 53 Emacs 0x10453cd8c Frequire + 560 54 Emacs 0x10456f948 exec_byte_code + 2988 55 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 56 Emacs 0x1045312dc funcall_nil + 12 57 Emacs 0x1045311f8 run_hook_with_args + 320 58 subr-13adf6a6-818c6388.eln 0x108906c50 F646f2d61667465722d6c6f61642d6576616c756174696f6e_do_after_load_evaluation_0 + 576 59 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 60 Emacs 0x10455493c Fload + 2272 61 Emacs 0x1045565f8 save_match_data_load + 92 62 Emacs 0x104530930 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 63 Emacs 0x10453cd8c Frequire + 560 64 Emacs 0x10452ca38 eval_sub + 2236 65 Emacs 0x10452c734 eval_sub + 1464 66 Emacs 0x10452cb58 Fif + 24 67 Emacs 0x10452c8a4 eval_sub + 1832 68 Emacs 0x10452cbb4 Fprogn + 48 69 Emacs 0x104532114 funcall_lambda + 1316 70 Emacs 0x10456f7c8 exec_byte_code + 2604 71 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 72 Emacs 0x1045312dc funcall_nil + 12 73 Emacs 0x1045311f8 run_hook_with_args + 320 74 subr-13adf6a6-818c6388.eln 0x108906c50 F646f2d61667465722d6c6f61642d6576616c756174696f6e_do_after_load_evaluation_0 + 576 75 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 76 Emacs 0x10455493c Fload + 2272 77 Emacs 0x1045565f8 save_match_data_load + 92 78 Emacs 0x104530930 load_with_autoload_queue + 120 79 Emacs 0x10453cd8c Frequire + 560 80 Emacs 0x10452ca38 eval_sub + 2236 81 Emacs 0x10452f160 internal_lisp_condition_case + 884 82 Emacs 0x10452c8a4 eval_sub + 1832 83 Emacs 0x10452cbb4 Fprogn + 48 84 Emacs 0x10452e3b0 Fwhile + 80 85 Emacs 0x10452c8a4 eval_sub + 1832 86 Emacs 0x10452cbb4 Fprogn + 48 87 Emacs 0x104532114 funcall_lambda + 1316 88 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 89 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 90 timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln 0x10b3dce44 F74696d65722d6576656e742d68616e646c6572_timer_event_handler_0 + 832 91 Emacs 0x10452e72c Ffuncall + 316 92 Emacs 0x1044bd290 timer_check + 892 93 Emacs 0x1044bb63c readable_events + 36 94 Emacs 0x1044bcebc get_input_pending + 56 95 Emacs 0x1044b7b50 read_char + 2872 96 Emacs 0x1044b5550 read_key_sequence + 1056 97 Emacs 0x1044b3dc0 command_loop_1 + 700 98 Emacs 0x10452f334 internal_condition_case + 96 99 Emacs 0x1044b3af0 command_loop_2 + 52 100 Emacs 0x10452ed58 internal_catch + 88 101 Emacs 0x1045f5f18 command_loop.cold.1 + 80 102 Emacs 0x1044b3490 command_loop + 152 103 Emacs 0x1044b334c recursive_edit_1 + 148 104 Emacs 0x1044b35b0 Frecursive_edit + 264 105 Emacs 0x1044b292c main + 7484 106 dyld 0x181d9fe50 start + 2544 Thread 1: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 2: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 3:: gmain 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x182094a00 __select + 8 1 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x105457b20 g_poll + 424 2 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10544acc4 g_main_context_iterate + 340 3 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10544ad8c g_main_context_iteration + 60 4 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10544c124 glib_worker_main + 48 5 libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x10546f3a8 g_thread_proxy + 68 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c906c _pthread_start + 148 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 4: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 5: 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e18 start_wqthread + 0 Thread 6: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x18208ffa4 __pselect + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x18208fe7c pselect$DARWIN_EXTSN + 64 2 Emacs 0x1045c5e98 -[EmacsApp fd_handler:] + 184 3 Foundation 0x1830a9470 __NSThread__start__ + 716 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c906c _pthread_start + 148 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 7:: com.apple.NSEventThread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x182089d70 mach_msg2_trap + 8 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x18209b8a4 mach_msg2_internal + 80 2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1820925c4 mach_msg_overwrite + 540 3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x18208a0ec mach_msg + 24 4 CoreFoundation 0x1821a8bc0 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160 5 CoreFoundation 0x1821a74ac __CFRunLoopRun + 1232 6 CoreFoundation 0x1821a6888 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612 7 AppKit 0x185552410 _NSEventThread + 172 8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c906c _pthread_start + 148 9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c3e2c thread_start + 8 Thread 0 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit): x0: 0x0000000000000000 x1: 0x0000000000000000 x2: 0x0000000000000000 x3: 0x0000600003f886c0 x4: 0x0000600003f886a0 x5: 0x0000000000000000 x6: 0x0000000000000000 x7: 0x0000000000000710 x8: 0xb04c5173d21794d4 x9: 0xb04c51720f556e54 x10: 0x0000000000000001 x11: 0x0000000000000003 x12: 0x0000000000000001 x13: 0x0000600002a99480 x14: 0x01000001dd44fee9 x15: 0x00000001dd44fee8 x16: 0x0000000000000148 x17: 0x00000001e22707f0 x18: 0x0000000000000000 x19: 0x0000000000000006 x20: 0x00000001dd42fa80 x21: 0x0000000000000103 x22: 0x00000001dd42fb60 x23: 0x0000000000000003 x24: 0x000000016ba12308 x25: 0x0000000000000006 x26: 0x0000000000000020 x27: 0x0000000104d52d70 x28: 0x0000000104d52de0 fp: 0x0000000104bb1910 lr: 0x00000001820c8cec sp: 0x0000000104bb18f0 pc: 0x00000001820921b0 cpsr: 0x40001000 far: 0x0000000104ba79f0 esr: 0x56000080 Address size fault Binary Images: 0x182089000 - 0x1820c1ff3 libsystem_kernel.dylib (*) <aebf397e-e2ef-3a49-be58-23d4558511f6> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1820c2000 - 0x1820ceffb libsystem_pthread.dylib (*) <132084c6-c347-3489-9ac2-fcaad21cdb73> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x181f89000 - 0x182009ff3 libsystem_c.dylib (*) <756cd0d2-3241-3a74-8c59-02632dcee221> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib 0x1043e8000 - 0x10463ffff org.gnu.Emacs (Version 29.0.60) <96c2c81f-a22d-3b5c-b9bc-7b549603be41> /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs 0x1820f3000 - 0x1820faffb libsystem_platform.dylib (*) <b215ae90-4ed2-3fcd-8ccc-6c0d93cc4f41> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_platform.dylib 0x0 - 0xffffffffffffffff ??? (*) <00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000> ??? 0x181d9a000 - 0x181e24b63 dyld (*) <487cfdeb-9b07-39bf-bfb9-970b61aea2d1> /usr/lib/dyld 0x13e194000 - 0x13e19bfff rng-loc-798ea863-2dd98436.eln (*) <99fc78aa-c562-3a97-b250-b4eafbfb9457> /Users/USER/*/rng-loc-798ea863-2dd98436.eln 0x14e640000 - 0x14e663fff ox-odt-c6038b82-f0fa0d16.eln (*) <b70c4abe-ae3f-3f4d-9de8-eeb718dc2f8d> /Users/USER/*/ox-odt-c6038b82-f0fa0d16.eln 0x1088e8000 - 0x10891bfff subr-13adf6a6-818c6388.eln (*) <7350297a-5236-3262-aa1f-9e88e72dfa8b> /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/native-lisp/29.0.60-c7b10636/preloaded/subr-13adf6a6-818c6388.eln 0x10b3d8000 - 0x10b3dffff timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln (*) <0f550bba-4a80-3546-98fe-a92aa0d14158> /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/native-lisp/29.0.60-c7b10636/preloaded/timer-3ee7cfd9-d55357b5.eln 0x105414000 - 0x1054fbfff libglib-2.0.0.dylib (*) <f593e720-37ac-3b64-8d96-f9c330062fec> /opt/homebrew/*/libglib-2.0.0.dylib 0x183053000 - 0x183a8bfff com.apple.Foundation (6.9) <f1f5f857-8c3c-36d5-bc27-7702d6795468> /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation 0x182127000 - 0x1825fefff com.apple.CoreFoundation (6.9) <fd16d6d9-10c0-323b-b43b-9781c4a4d268> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation 0x1853ef000 - 0x1862f9fff com.apple.AppKit (6.9) <dbbd4dea-6c68-3200-a81b-79b6a62f4669> /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit External Modification Summary: Calls made by other processes targeting this process: task_for_pid: 628 thread_create: 0 thread_set_state: 0 Calls made by this process: task_for_pid: 0 thread_create: 0 thread_set_state: 0 Calls made by all processes on this machine: task_for_pid: 216650 thread_create: 0 thread_set_state: 14824 VM Region Summary: ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=1.1G resident=0K(0%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=1.1G(100%) Writable regions: Total=1.5G written=0K(0%) resident=0K(0%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=1.5G(100%) VIRTUAL REGION REGION TYPE SIZE COUNT (non-coalesced) =========== ======= ======= Accelerate framework 128K 1 Activity Tracing 256K 1 CG backing stores 3072K 4 CG image 48K 2 ColorSync 528K 26 CoreAnimation 96K 6 CoreGraphics 32K 2 CoreUI image data 832K 5 Foundation 16K 1 Kernel Alloc Once 32K 1 MALLOC 371.3M 77 MALLOC guard page 192K 10 MALLOC_MEDIUM (reserved) 720.0M 6 reserved VM address space (unallocated) MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 384.0M 1 reserved VM address space (unallocated) STACK GUARD 112K 7 Stack 13.3M 8 Stack Guard 54.4M 1 VM_ALLOCATE 208K 13 __AUTH 646K 164 __AUTH_CONST 11.3M 321 __CTF 756 1 __DATA 31.0M 842 __DATA_CONST 21.1M 610 __DATA_DIRTY 709K 110 __FONT_DATA 2352 1 __LINKEDIT 797.7M 447 __OBJC_CONST 1334K 138 __OBJC_RO 65.4M 1 __OBJC_RW 1986K 1 __TEXT 285.5M 782 dyld private memory 1024K 4 mapped file 233.1M 42 shared memory 864K 15 =========== ======= ======= TOTAL 2.9G 3651 TOTAL, minus reserved VM space 1.9G 3651 Aaron
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
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[73.23.241.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e26-20020ac5c7da000000b003b89f00e276sm1732564vkn.40.2022.12.20.07.11.19 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: <m2y1r2rtyi.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::112d; envelope-from=aaronjensen@HIDDEN; helo=mail-yw1-x112d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I've been seeing this crash somewhat frequently recently on emacs-29 master. It's possibly since updating to macOS Ventura (13.1). I can't seem to reproduce it with debug symbols and a debugger attached, so this may be the best I can provide right now. It tends to happen shortly after I restart Emacs using `restart-emacs'. It also just happened randomly while I didn't even have Emacs focused. I believe I have seen it happen once when starting Emacs without a restart. ------------------------------------- Translated Report (Full Report Below) ------------------------------------- Process: Emacs [600] Path: /opt/homebrew/*/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs Version: Version 29.0.60 (9.0) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2022-12-20 10:06:15.9650 -0500 OS Version: macOS 13.1 (22C65) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: CD1F31D7-5E61-2935-643D-55F58CD29C12 Sleep/Wake UUID: 254FA28B-6F01-412E-8D38-DE2EC5BE8B25 Time Awake Since Boot: 16000 seconds Time Since Wake: 559 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000 Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1820921b0 __pthread_kill + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1820c8cec pthread_kill + 288 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x181fcaa50 raise + 32 3 Emacs 0x100309af4 terminate_due_to_sign= al + 204 4 Emacs 0x10030a2f0 emacs_abort + 20 5 Emacs 0x1002d8db8 ns_term_shutdown + 132 6 Emacs 0x1001c4b9c shut_down_emacs + 332 7 Emacs 0x100309abc terminate_due_to_sign= al + 148 8 Emacs 0x1001e708c handle_fatal_signal += 16 9 Emacs 0x1001e7108 deliver_thread_signal= + 124 10 Emacs 0x1001e5708 deliver_fatal_thread_= signal + 12 11 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x1820f72a4 _sigtramp + 56 12 dyld 0x181e15a00 abort_with_payload_wr= apper_internal + 104 13 dyld 0x181e15a34 abort_with_payload + = 16 14 dyld 0x181da40a4 dyld4::halt(char cons= t*) + 328 15 dyld 0x181e14584 abort_report_np + 80 16 dyld 0x181e145c0 __assert_rtn + 60 17 dyld 0x181e11794 dyld4::Loader::contai= ns(dyld4::RuntimeState&, void const*, void const**, unsigned long long*, un= signed char*) const (.cold.1) + 44 18 dyld 0x181db3328 dyld4::Loader::contai= ns(dyld4::RuntimeState&, void const*, void const**, unsigned long long*, un= signed char*) const + 92 19 dyld 0x181dd3af4 invocation function f= or block in dyld4::APIs::findImageMappedAt(void const*, dyld3::MachOLoaded = const**, bool*, char const**, void const**, unsigned long long*, unsigned c= har*) + 144 20 dyld 0x181da744c dyld4::RuntimeState::= withLoadersReadLock(void () block_pointer) + 92 21 dyld 0x181dd3904 dyld4::APIs::findImag= eMappedAt(void const*, dyld3::MachOLoaded const**, bool*, char const**, voi= d const**, unsigned long long*, unsigned char*) + 720 22 dyld 0x181dd3c6c dyld4::APIs::dyld_ima= ge_path_containing_address(void const*) + 72 23 libsystem_trace.dylib 0x181e702e8 _os_trace_dylib_or_ma= in_executable_was_loaded + 84 24 dyld 0x181dac624 invocation function f= or block in dyld4::RuntimeState::notifyLoad(std::__1::span<dyld4::Loader co= nst*, 18446744073709551615ul> const&) + 248 25 dyld 0x181da79f0 dyld4::RuntimeState::= withNotifiersReadLock(void () block_pointer) + 96 26 dyld 0x181dac2cc dyld4::RuntimeState::= notifyLoad(std::__1::span<dyld4::Loader const*, 18446744073709551615ul> con= st&) + 356 27 dyld 0x181dd4a9c dyld4::APIs::dlopen_f= rom(char const*, int, void*) + 1200 28 Emacs 0x10028cdb8 Fnative_elisp_load + = 356 29 Emacs 0x100283948 exec_byte_code + 2988 30 Emacs 0x10024272c Ffuncall + 316 31 Emacs 0x100244f30 Fapply + 612 32 Emacs 0x10023feb0 apply1 + 52 33 Emacs 0x1002433c0 internal_condition_ca= se_1 + 100 34 Emacs 0x100298e48 exec_sentinel + 292 35 Emacs 0x10029012c status_notify + 780 36 Emacs 0x1002967a8 wait_reading_process_= output + 1580 37 Emacs 0x1001cd1e8 read_char + 8656 38 Emacs 0x1001c9550 read_key_sequence + 1= 056 39 Emacs 0x1001c7dc0 command_loop_1 + 700 40 Emacs 0x100243334 internal_condition_ca= se + 96 41 Emacs 0x1001c7af0 command_loop_2 + 52 42 Emacs 0x100242d58 internal_catch + 88 43 Emacs 0x100309f18 command_loop.cold.1 += 80 44 Emacs 0x1001c7490 command_loop + 152 45 Emacs 0x1001c734c recursive_edit_1 + 148 46 Emacs 0x1001c75b0 Frecursive_edit + 264 47 Emacs 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Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@HIDDEN>
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