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the turkish keyboard layout in the windows's terminal bug

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 8 Aug 2023 12:29:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 12:30:03 +0300
> 
> I executed "describe-key-briefly" to show which commands calling in emacs.Then I pressed the
> turkish character on the keyboard, which is ğ. It prints this output.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> C-_ runs the command undo (found in global-map), which is an
> interactive native-compiled Lisp function in ‘simple.el’.

C-_ has the character code of 0x1F, which is the lower byte of ğ,
whose codepoint is 0x11F.  So for some reason Emacs doesn't see the
upper byte, not sure why.

How are your regional and language preferences set on that system?




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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 12:17:30 +0300
> 
> How can i find out the byte of chars ?

If you cave a port of the 'cat' program, then an easy way is this:

  cat > some-file

Then type ığ and press RET, then Ctrl-Z.  The file "some-file" will
have the bytes the keyboard sent.  Then you can either post that file
as a binary attachment, or use Emacs to show the bytes, e.g., with
"M-x hexl-find-file RET".

'cat' is part of GNU Coreutils, so if you don't have it, perhaps find
some port and install it?

Also, where did you get this version of Emacs?  If you downloaded a
pre-built binary, can you tell from which site?




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no doesn't work. I am pressing my keyboard turkish character "=C4=B1". it
inserts 1,which is a number.

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 8 A=C4=9Fu 2023 Sal, 18:26 tarihinde =C5=9Fun=
u yazd=C4=B1:

> [Please use Reply All in your responses.]
>
> > From: Ferhat Avc=C4=B1 <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:57:10 +0300
> >
> > it doesn't work.
>
> What if you type
>
>   chcp 857
>
> or
>
>   chcp 1254
>
> in the cmd.exe window before invoking "emacs -nw"?  Does that help?
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">no doesn&#39;t work. I am pressing=C2=A0my keyboard=C2=A0t=
urkish character &quot;=C4=B1&quot;. it inserts 1,which is a number.</div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Eli Zar=
etskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt;, 8 A=C4=9Fu=
 2023 Sal, 18:26 tarihinde =C5=9Funu yazd=C4=B1:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">[Please use Reply All in your responses.]<=
br>
<br>
&gt; From: Ferhat Avc=C4=B1 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ferhat3223@HIDDEN" tar=
get=3D"_blank">ferhat3223@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:57:10 +0300<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; it doesn&#39;t work.<br>
<br>
What if you type<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 chcp 857<br>
<br>
or<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 chcp 1254<br>
<br>
in the cmd.exe window before invoking &quot;emacs -nw&quot;?=C2=A0 Does tha=
t help?<br>
</blockquote></div>

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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 21:52:05 +0300
> 
> No it doesn't work. But thank you.

Can you figure out which bytes the keyboard sends when you type those
characters, "ı" and "ğ"?




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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 20:57:12 +0300
> 
> in bottom left corner DD9

And the character you typed is displayed correctly, as "ı"?

What happens if you start "emacs -nw" and then type

  C-x RET k windows-1254 RET




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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
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> no doesn't work. I am pressing my keyboard turkish character "ı". it inserts 1,which is a number.

If you type "chcp" into the cmd.exe window, what does Windows say?

If you type "echo ı > file", and then open the file in Emacs, what do
you see in the file, and what is the value of
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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:57:10 +0300
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> it doesn't work.

What if you type

  chcp 857

or

  chcp 1254

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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:36:05 +0300
> 
> cp437

OK.  Please try

   M-: (w32-set-console-codepage 857) RET
   C-x RET k cp857 RET

If that doesn't help, try

   M-: (w32-set-console-codepage 1254) RET
   C-x RET k cp1254 RET




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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 15:20:54 +0300
> 
> In the windows's terminal(app was opened with -nw command), pressing ğ char not adding char ğ. it
> does undo command.Please sir fixing this issue.
> Emacs version is 29.1. I am using currently Windows 10.

Please type

  M-: (terminal-coding-system) RET

and post here what Emacs says as result.




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> From: Ferhat Avcı <ferhat3223@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 15:20:54 +0300
> 
> In the windows's terminal(app was opened with -nw command), pressing ğ char not adding char ğ. it
> does undo command.Please sir fixing this issue.
> Emacs version is 29.1. I am using currently Windows 10.

Please type

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