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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
To: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#66647: Installation of RPMs produced by =?utf-8?B?4oCY?=
=?utf-8?B?Z3VpeCBwYWNr4oCZ?= is super slow
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Hello,
Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 10:12, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@inria=
.fr> wrote:
>
>>> We could mention that other package managers than yum should be
>>> preferred in a "@quotation Note", due to a performance problem when
>>> handling modern RPMs as those made by Guix; or we could close this and
>>> wait for yum to have become completely irrelevant (which seems like in a
>>> year or so, last I checked the RHEL end-of-life dates).
>>>
>>> Is someone volunteering to add the note? Or should we close this?
>>
>> Yeah maybe let=E2=80=99s just a short note warning against old versions =
of =E2=80=98yum=E2=80=99
>> and close this issue.
>
> I am proposing [1]:
>
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> doc/guix.texi | 8 ++++++++
>
> modified doc/guix.texi
> @@ -7299,6 +7299,14 @@ Invoking guix pack
> sudo rpm --install --prefix=3D/opt /gnu/store/...-hello.rpm
> @end example
>
> +@quotation Warning
> +Rely on @command{rpm --install} for installing an RPM archive and avoid
> +@command{yum install} or related. The generated RPM archive will
> +install faster when using @command{rpm} than when using @command{yum}.
> +The performances of @command{yum} when installing generated RPM archive
> +could be detrimental compared to installing using @command{rpm} tool.
> +@end quotation
> +
Instead of wording it in a way that make it seems 'rpm' is the only tool
to be preferred, I'd say something like
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Older
versions of the @command{yum} command is known to have performance
problems when installing a Guix-generated RPM package. Prefer to use
modern alternatives such as the @command{dnf} or the @command{rpm}
commands.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Otherwise, LGTM! Thanks for volunteering to write it!
--=20
Thanks,
Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#66647; Package guix.
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From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN>
To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>, Maxim
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Hi,
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 10:12, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN=
r> wrote:
>> We could mention that other package managers than yum should be
>> preferred in a "@quotation Note", due to a performance problem when
>> handling modern RPMs as those made by Guix; or we could close this and
>> wait for yum to have become completely irrelevant (which seems like in a
>> year or so, last I checked the RHEL end-of-life dates).
>>
>> Is someone volunteering to add the note? Or should we close this?
>
> Yeah maybe let=E2=80=99s just a short note warning against old versions o=
f =E2=80=98yum=E2=80=99
> and close this issue.
I am proposing [1]:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
doc/guix.texi | 8 ++++++++
modified doc/guix.texi
@@ -7299,6 +7299,14 @@ Invoking guix pack
sudo rpm --install --prefix=3D/opt /gnu/store/...-hello.rpm
@end example
+@quotation Warning
+Rely on @command{rpm --install} for installing an RPM archive and avoid
+@command{yum install} or related. The generated RPM archive will
+install faster when using @command{rpm} than when using @command{yum}.
+The performances of @command{yum} when installing generated RPM archive
+could be detrimental compared to installing using @command{rpm} tool.
+@end quotation
+
@quotation Note
Contrary to Debian packages, conflicting but @emph{identical} files in
RPM packages can be installed simultaneously, which means multiple
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
WDYT?
Cheers,
simon
1: bug#66647: Installation of RPMs produced by =E2=80=98guix pack=E2=80=99 =
is super slow
Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN>
Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:31:20 +0100
id:87a5qyatsn.fsf@HIDDEN
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66647
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/msgid/87a5qyatsn.fsf@HIDDEN
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#66647; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 66647) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2024 09:12:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 15 04:12:50 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rPJ1W-0006Qc-J0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 04:12:50 -0500 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:50831) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>) id 1rPJ1T-0006QK-6n for 66647 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 04:12:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inria.fr; s=dc; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date: message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RINyxLQ9SdnAIIMc7+oQR94lIA9QlWKMvQJ8TPQK0yo=; b=foEZslveEblAuy2ZGwgKv9k032telaG6Dm96fxoEia/Q2UYQrwBKo7XB wBq42w0gnq4BXih1KigYhP9slhuve03vyotvDtmSr7Rk2tOB/uII7Nfeh wy0JkHUEY0CVf+B1jfGs8n9+UYs98LniCwObeQNes6jpBhLEONs0HVqYQ Y=; Authentication-Results: mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr; dkim=none (message not signed) header.i=none; spf=SoftFail smtp.mailfrom=ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) d=inria.fr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.04,196,1695679200"; d="scan'208";a="146614562" Received: from unknown (HELO ribbon) ([193.50.110.52]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 15 Jan 2024 10:12:42 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN> To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#66647: Installation of RPMs produced by =?utf-8?B?4oCY?= =?utf-8?B?Z3VpeCBwYWNr4oCZ?= is super slow In-Reply-To: <87zfx7qn1q.fsf@HIDDEN> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:43:13 -0500") References: <87a5sdvblv.fsf@HIDDEN> <5cd008c8-3f9b-4470-b8d2-3e43ff08b4bd@HIDDEN> <87r0kseer7.fsf@HIDDEN> <874jh96hfo.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5qyatsn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87il5g42q0.fsf@HIDDEN> <8734v324gz.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zfx7qn1q.fsf@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Sextidi 26 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 232 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour de =?utf-8?Q?l'=C3=89tain?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:12:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87v87vj6yf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66647 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Lo=C3=AFc?= SIRVIN <loic.sirvin@HIDDEN>, 66647 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> skribis: > Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Hi Inria=E2=80=99s folks, :-) >> >> On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 at 18:13, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN= > wrote: >> >>> I'd rather we try it with a few more software such as 'dnf' to narrow it >>> down to just 'yum', or some other issues in our Guix-generated RPM. >> >> have you tried with =E2=80=99dnf=E2=80=99? Is it similarly slow as =E2= =80=99yum=E2=80=99? > > I've tried it myself, and it was fast. yum is an alias that invokes dnf > even on an old obsolete Fedora 37 VM I had available. > > We could mention that other package managers than yum should be > preferred in a "@quotation Note", due to a performance problem when > handling modern RPMs as those made by Guix; or we could close this and > wait for yum to have become completely irrelevant (which seems like in a > year or so, last I checked the RHEL end-of-life dates). > > Is someone volunteering to add the note? Or should we close this? Yeah maybe let=E2=80=99s just a short note warning against old versions of = =E2=80=98yum=E2=80=99 and close this issue. Thanks for following up! Ludo=E2=80=99.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#66647; Package guix.
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[72.10.136.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fe3-20020a05622a4d4300b0042994016b68sm3567872qtb.71.2024.01.14.19.43.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 14 Jan 2024 19:43:14 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> To: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#66647: Installation of RPMs produced by =?utf-8?B?4oCY?= =?utf-8?B?Z3VpeCBwYWNr4oCZ?= is super slow In-Reply-To: <8734v324gz.fsf@HIDDEN> (Simon Tournier's message of "Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:57:00 +0100") References: <87a5sdvblv.fsf@HIDDEN> <5cd008c8-3f9b-4470-b8d2-3e43ff08b4bd@HIDDEN> <87r0kseer7.fsf@HIDDEN> <874jh96hfo.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5qyatsn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87il5g42q0.fsf@HIDDEN> <8734v324gz.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:43:13 -0500 Message-ID: <87zfx7qn1q.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66647 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Lo=C3=AFc?= SIRVIN <loic.sirvin@HIDDEN>, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>, 66647 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi Inria=E2=80=99s folks, :-) > > On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 at 18:13, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>= wrote: > >> I'd rather we try it with a few more software such as 'dnf' to narrow it >> down to just 'yum', or some other issues in our Guix-generated RPM. > > have you tried with =E2=80=99dnf=E2=80=99? Is it similarly slow as =E2= =80=99yum=E2=80=99? I've tried it myself, and it was fast. yum is an alias that invokes dnf even on an old obsolete Fedora 37 VM I had available. We could mention that other package managers than yum should be preferred in a "@quotation Note", due to a performance problem when handling modern RPMs as those made by Guix; or we could close this and wait for yum to have become completely irrelevant (which seems like in a year or so, last I checked the RHEL end-of-life dates). Is someone volunteering to add the note? Or should we close this? --=20 Thanks, Maxim
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Hi,
On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 at 15:22, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN=
r> wrote:
> Maxim, should we explicitly recommend =E2=80=98rpm -i=E2=80=99 in the man=
ual?
I propose something like:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
doc/guix.texi | 8 ++++++++
modified doc/guix.texi
@@ -7299,6 +7299,14 @@ Invoking guix pack
sudo rpm --install --prefix=3D/opt /gnu/store/...-hello.rpm
@end example
=20
+@quotation Warning
+Rely on @command{rpm --install} for installing an RPM archive and avoid
+@command{yum install} or related. The generated RPM archive will
+install faster when using @command{rpm} than when using @command{yum}.
+The performances of @command{yum} when installing generated RPM archive
+could be detrimental compared to installing using @command{rpm} tool.
+@end quotation
+
@quotation Note
Contrary to Debian packages, conflicting but @emph{identical} files in
RPM packages can be installed simultaneously, which means multiple
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
WDYT?
Cheers,
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Hello
Sorry for the late feedback
Installing the rpm with `rpm -i file.rpm` command does not take lot of time.
It takes very long time when we install it with `yum install file.rpm`
command.
Some system informations :
# cat /etc/centos-release
CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core)
# yum --version
3.4.3
Installés : rpm-4.11.3-48.el7_9.x86_64 à 2023-06-02 11:45
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem<http://bugs.centos.org> à 2021-11-24 16:33
Commité : Michal Domonkos<mdomonko@HIDDEN> à 2021-11-01
Installés : subscription-manager-1.24.53-1.el7.centos.x86_64 à 2023-10-30 10:29
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem<http://bugs.centos.org> à 2023-10-16 13:21
Commité : Pino Toscano<ptoscano@HIDDEN> à 2023-09-22
Installés : yum-3.4.3-168.el7.centos.noarch à 2023-06-02 11:45
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem<http://bugs.centos.org> à 2020-10-01 17:03
Commité : CentOS Sources<bugs@HIDDEN> à 2020-09-29
Installés : yum-plugin-fastestmirror-1.1.31-54.el7_8.noarch à 2023-06-02 11:45
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem<http://bugs.centos.org> à 2020-05-12 16:27
Commité : Michal Domonkos<mdomonko@HIDDEN> à 2020-03-12
Installés : yum-rhn-plugin-2.7.7-1.el7.noarch à 2023-06-02 11:46
Compilé : Koji à 2017-08-01 10:56
Commité : Eric Herget<eherget@HIDDEN> à 2017-07-31
# rpm --version
RPM version 4.11.3
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<p>Hello</p>
<p>Sorry for the late feedback</p>
<p>Installing the rpm with `rpm -i file.rpm` command does not take
lot of time.</p>
<p>It takes very long time when we install it with `yum install
file.rpm` command.</p>
<p>Some system informations :</p>
<pre># cat /etc/centos-release
CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core)
# yum --version
3.4.3
Installés : rpm-4.11.3-48.el7_9.x86_64 à 2023-06-02 11:45
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://bugs.centos.org"><http://bugs.centos.org></a> à 2021-11-24 16:33
Commité : Michal Domonkos <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mdomonko@HIDDEN"><mdomonko@HIDDEN></a> à 2021-11-01
Installés : subscription-manager-1.24.53-1.el7.centos.x86_64 à 2023-10-30 10:29
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://bugs.centos.org"><http://bugs.centos.org></a> à 2023-10-16 13:21
Commité : Pino Toscano <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ptoscano@HIDDEN"><ptoscano@HIDDEN></a> à 2023-09-22
Installés : yum-3.4.3-168.el7.centos.noarch à 2023-06-02 11:45
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://bugs.centos.org"><http://bugs.centos.org></a> à 2020-10-01 17:03
Commité : CentOS Sources <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bugs@HIDDEN"><bugs@HIDDEN></a> à 2020-09-29
Installés : yum-plugin-fastestmirror-1.1.31-54.el7_8.noarch à 2023-06-02 11:45
Compilé : CentOS BuildSystem <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://bugs.centos.org"><http://bugs.centos.org></a> à 2020-05-12 16:27
Commité : Michal Domonkos <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mdomonko@HIDDEN"><mdomonko@HIDDEN></a> à 2020-03-12
Installés : yum-rhn-plugin-2.7.7-1.el7.noarch à 2023-06-02 11:46
Compilé : Koji à 2017-08-01 10:56
Commité : Eric Herget <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eherget@HIDDEN"><eherget@HIDDEN></a> à 2017-07-31
# rpm --version
RPM version 4.11.3
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Attached the view I get using the pack > generated with, > > guix pack -f rpm -S /opt/bin=3Dbin -R gmsh > > then copied with =E2=80=99scp=E2=80=99. Well, I do not have GUI but gmsh= seems working. > > For me, =E2=80=99rpm -i=E2=80=99 needs less than 10 seconds. It installs= 88 items if I > read correctly. Yeah, a ~600 MiB closure is by no means specially large, should it shouldn't take 45 minutes unless the IO in the VM is pathologically slow, or if the old RPM version was struggling with something in our custom-generated RPMs. You example shows this is not the case, so I'll close this with 'moreinfo' and 'unreproducible' tags. Ludo: feel free to reopen if you can gather more details that would point at our RPMs being faulty. --=20 Thanks, Maxim
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From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court?=
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Subject: Re: bug#66647: Installation of RPMs produced by =?utf-8?B?4oCY?=
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Hi,
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 at 21:35, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
[...]
> [user@fedora Downloads]$ sudo time rpm -i 7m01b0308z5y2pmyn8ywzdj914dxaws=
l-gmsh-rpm-pack.rpm
> 17.26user 10.19system 0:42.31elapsed 64%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 24468maxre=
sident)k
> 1481136inputs+2177344outputs (19major+6242minor)pagefaults 0swaps
>
> [user@fedora Downloads]$ rpm --version
> RPM version 4.18.0
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
These days I am doing some experiments with CentOS7 (rpm 4.11.8), so I
have a virtualbox VM around. Attached the view I get using the pack
generated with,
guix pack -f rpm -S /opt/bin=3Dbin -R gmsh
then copied with =E2=80=99scp=E2=80=99. Well, I do not have GUI but gmsh s=
eems working.
For me, =E2=80=99rpm -i=E2=80=99 needs less than 10 seconds. It installs 8=
8 items if I
read correctly.
Hope that helps,
simon
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Subject: Re: bug#66647: Installation of RPMs produced by =?utf-8?B?4oCY?=
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Hi,
Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi!
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> However, installing those RPMs takes a lot of time. For example,
>>> installing the RPM for =E2=80=98gmsh=E2=80=99 (closure: 596=C2=A0MiB; t=
housands of files)
>>> takes ~45mn.
>
> [...]
>
>> What is the OS thy install on? How do they generate the gmsh package
>> exactly? Perhaps I still have a RPM-based distro VM to try it with.
>
> They=E2=80=99re targeting CentOS 7 (!). It=E2=80=99s built with:
>
> guix pack -f rpm -S /opt/bin=3Dbin -R gmsh
I guess it has to do with that very dated version of rpm, because
testing from a Fedora 37 VM I had at hand, it's fast (42 seconds on my
17 years old Core 2 Duo desktop):
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ cat /etc/os-release=20
NAME=3D"Fedora Linux"
VERSION=3D"37 (Workstation Edition)"
ID=3Dfedora
VERSION_ID=3D37
VERSION_CODENAME=3D""
PLATFORM_ID=3D"platform:f37"
PRETTY_NAME=3D"Fedora Linux 37 (Workstation Edition)"
ANSI_COLOR=3D"0;38;2;60;110;180"
LOGO=3Dfedora-logo-icon
CPE_NAME=3D"cpe:/o:fedoraproject:fedora:37"
DEFAULT_HOSTNAME=3D"fedora"
HOME_URL=3D"https://fedoraproject.org/"
DOCUMENTATION_URL=3D"https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f37/system=
-administrators-guide/"
SUPPORT_URL=3D"https://ask.fedoraproject.org/"
BUG_REPORT_URL=3D"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/"
REDHAT_BUGZILLA_PRODUCT=3D"Fedora"
REDHAT_BUGZILLA_PRODUCT_VERSION=3D37
REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT=3D"Fedora"
REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT_VERSION=3D37
VARIANT=3D"Workstation Edition"
VARIANT_ID=3Dworkstation
[user@fedora Downloads]$ sudo time rpm -i 7m01b0308z5y2pmyn8ywzdj914dxawsl-=
gmsh-rpm-pack.rpm
17.26user 10.19system 0:42.31elapsed 64%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 24468maxresi=
dent)k
1481136inputs+2177344outputs (19major+6242minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[user@fedora Downloads]$ rpm --version
RPM version 4.18.0
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Perhaps using guix time-machine to a commit where we had a RHEL 7 era
rpm version (4.11 according to [0]) would be faster than installing
Centos 7 in a VM... :-) except, hm, no, that's way too old. The oldest
we've got is:
e3e1ecf67c0 (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s 2015-10-26 290) (version
"4.12.0")
from 2015...
I don't think I'll be looking at fixing this use case; hopefully they
can retire their CentOS 7 soon (EOL: June 30th 2024) and use something
newer.
I'm tempted to close this as 'wontfix'. What do you think?
[0] https://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=3Drpm&submit=3DSea=
rch+...
--=20
Thanks,
Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#66647; Package guix.
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Hi Ludo,
Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hello!
>
> I made friends at work when I told them we could provide an RPM for any
> modern package to install on their old RPM-based distro. :-)
>
> However, installing those RPMs takes a lot of time. For example,
> installing the RPM for =E2=80=98gmsh=E2=80=99 (closure: 596=C2=A0MiB; tho=
usands of files)
> takes ~45mn.
>
> Is there something about the metadata generated by (guix rpm) that could
> be improved, or are we hitting some limitation of the RPM format or
> implementation?
What is the OS thy install on? How do they generate the gmsh package
exactly? Perhaps I still have a RPM-based distro VM to try it with.
--=20
Thanks,
Maxim
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Hi!
Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hello!
>
> I made friends at work when I told them we could provide an RPM for any
> modern package to install on their old RPM-based distro. :-)
>
> However, installing those RPMs takes a lot of time. For example,
> installing the RPM for =E2=80=98gmsh=E2=80=99 (closure: 596=C2=A0MiB; tho=
usands of files)
> takes ~45mn.
>
> Is there something about the metadata generated by (guix rpm) that could
> be improved, or are we hitting some limitation of the RPM format or
> implementation?
What? That's crazy. I haven't experimented with it recently, but I
used to generate packages for Jami back when it had a closure of 2 GiB
and it took many seconds, but not that much.
Many RPM is doing extra checks now?
--=20
Thanks,
Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#66647; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Oct 2023 10:21:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 20 06:21:31 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qtmdH-0001vn-Km for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 06:21:31 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:54890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>) id 1qtmdC-0001vE-K3 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 06:21:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>) id 1qtmce-0001Fb-CX for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 06:20:52 -0400 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>) id 1qtmcb-0002ut-FJ for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 06:20:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inria.fr; s=dc; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; bh=V0VvSH2MBwPtuLvMW3GRB10ptDet6DUYIrvPOuNdlIA=; b=TqlMpYOfKDJfQyF5mGSX7P/v3yDTBzFz7GoLBAM4MegEuqTtV0gdOVI/ UjXEwZ3tE4AwQqxIBFFa+SpWv158fjAWgASm9U2WfHHx4mlRD8jRtV7kV fZCBN3AV2TiFDQh2zw34B/UlyNV6r0hiWZPme3O/LQrnmUkamzYAb9EjM M=; Authentication-Results: mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr; dkim=none (message not signed) header.i=none; spf=SoftFail smtp.mailfrom=ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) d=inria.fr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.03,238,1694728800"; d="scan'208";a="132315267" Received: from unknown (HELO ribbon) ([193.50.110.87]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 20 Oct 2023 12:20:44 +0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN> To: bug-guix@HIDDEN Subject: Installation of RPMs produced by =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBwYWNr4oCZ?= is super slow X-Debbugs-Cc: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Nonidi 29 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 232 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour de l'Orge X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 12:20:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87a5sdvblv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.134.164.83; envelope-from=ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN; helo=mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello! I made friends at work when I told them we could provide an RPM for any modern package to install on their old RPM-based distro. :-) However, installing those RPMs takes a lot of time. For example, installing the RPM for =E2=80=98gmsh=E2=80=99 (closure: 596=C2=A0MiB; thous= ands of files) takes ~45mn. Is there something about the metadata generated by (guix rpm) that could be improved, or are we hitting some limitation of the RPM format or implementation? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
Ludovic Courtès <ludovic.courtes@HIDDEN>:maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN, bug-guix@HIDDEN.
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