Received: (at 67044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2023 14:47:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 09 09:47:25 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47079 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rByc1-0001j7-8q for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 09:47:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36756) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1rByby-0001io-Fm; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 09:47:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1rBybd-0008PP-H6; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 09:47:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=ZSxKFSk1/teDJUpYy6OBGbHJyD++o1QHJgxWH9DsQ8E=; b=I4jRiqKyGmeTxUUwLOmW o2jk36GNab9Ay6GbfRMiDfDXEQo3JHQUqleRme9UsG/3DLGqHroKAwDutVoMQciQwscCs3C0Ix1ve NfYp3quUoB/xkYLENP3Z/4L8CVva6MDRZSen2nvuWI7cRs+xZWExeLlQNnwlBgyXTLNbL1r6f1wwg 8QHGnWeiSWyEvXTpbkah9KBbcvKDfJmVb85aOyXhx9zZynsIf6SrYtB+I+3mP790mHdvHUqecoeY6 yseYsTLFhdSCQwUeBO0n0gm0hnbSWlL4eKzcTh7NccFtNu6ayrDX+SEs3z2IMf1a0qrVMOvDgXg+C zuAgwo3rPhu/hQ==; From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> Subject: Re: [bug#67686] bug#67044: C.utf8 locale cannot be built In-Reply-To: <ZXJCpL0u0UoEb8YA@ws> (Tomas Volf's message of "Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:09:40 +0100") References: <ZU5Bcz1vIcoH1COM@ws> <87bkbex3bh.fsf@HIDDEN> <ZWVA0iZhNXLZpfLV@ws> <87zfyme29z.fsf@HIDDEN> <ZXJCpL0u0UoEb8YA@ws> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 15:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87a5qj5t7h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67044 Cc: 67044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 67686 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Tomas, Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> skribis: >> (glibc-2.35)[arguments]: Delete =E2=80=98install-utf8-c-locale=E2=80=99 = phase. > > I do think 2.35 should install the locale as well. That would require to= change > > (invoke (string-append bin "/localedef") > "--no-archive" "--prefix" locale > "-i" "C" "-f" "UTF-8" > (string-append locale "/C.UTF-8"))))) > > into > > (invoke (string-append bin "/localedef") > "-c" "--no-archive" "--prefix" locale > "-i" "C" "-f" "UTF-8" > (string-append locale "/C.UTF-8"))))) > > however I think that is fine. I am using locale built like that and it w= orks > well. What is more, from the discussion under the other issue[0], that is > exactly what is done during normal glibc build: > >> It turns out we ignore errors during the glibc build (--quiet -c). > > After that the drop of 'install-utf8-c-locale can be moved into some other > version < 2.35. I=E2=80=99m a bit wary of using =E2=80=98-c=E2=80=99 (aka. =E2=80=98--force= =E2=80=99) unconditionally as this could hide real problems. But more importantly, I think it won=E2=80=99t matter whether glibc 2.35 sh= ips C.UTF-8 since it=E2=80=99s no longer going to be used, except for building = old locale data via =E2=80=98locale-libcs=E2=80=99. > 2. > > I still believe it makes sense to add the -c also into the locale builder, > because my understanding is that this change will not allow using (locale > "C.utf8") in the operating-system definition (since that would still try = to > build it, and fail). > > If you are not opposed to the idea, I can send a patch if you would prefe= r not > to do it yourself. No you=E2=80=99re right, we could add =E2=80=98-c=E2=80=99 to the code in (= gnu system locale), though perhaps it would be safer to do so only in the 2.35 + C.UTF-8 case. (We can do that independently of this patch.) > 3. > >> I suspect libc builds an additional =E2=80=98localedef=E2=80=99 for the = build machine but I=E2=80=99m >> not sure where it is, hmm=E2=80=A6 > > I looked around a bit, and I am not sure that is true. In the meantime I found that this is wrong indeed: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/67686#11 Thanks for your feedback! Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Subject: Re: bug#67044: C.utf8 locale cannot be built
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Hi :)
On 2023-12-07 11:27:04 +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
> [..]
>
> I decided to give it a go:
>
> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/67686
>
> Please do chime in and let me know what you think!
Thanks to the detailed cover letter, now I understand the benefit, so I agr=
ee it
would make sense. I looked over the implementation, and it looks fine to m=
e (I
am not sure if I am qualified to do the review though :) ).
I just have few notes:
1.
> (glibc-2.35)[arguments]: Delete =E2=80=98install-utf8-c-locale=E2=80=99 p=
hase.
I do think 2.35 should install the locale as well. That would require to c=
hange
(invoke (string-append bin "/localedef")
"--no-archive" "--prefix" locale
"-i" "C" "-f" "UTF-8"
(string-append locale "/C.UTF-8")))))
into
(invoke (string-append bin "/localedef")
"-c" "--no-archive" "--prefix" locale
"-i" "C" "-f" "UTF-8"
(string-append locale "/C.UTF-8")))))
however I think that is fine. I am using locale built like that and it wor=
ks
well. What is more, from the discussion under the other issue[0], that is
exactly what is done during normal glibc build:
> It turns out we ignore errors during the glibc build (--quiet -c).
After that the drop of 'install-utf8-c-locale can be moved into some other
version < 2.35.
2.
I still believe it makes sense to add the -c also into the locale builder,
because my understanding is that this change will not allow using (locale
"C.utf8") in the operating-system definition (since that would still try to
build it, and fail).
If you are not opposed to the idea, I can send a patch if you would prefer =
not
to do it yourself.
3.
> I suspect libc builds an additional =E2=80=98localedef=E2=80=99 for the b=
uild machine but I=E2=80=99m
> not sure where it is, hmm=E2=80=A6
I looked around a bit, and I am not sure that is true. There seems to be o=
nly
=2E/locale/localedef created. However, there is localedef inside gcc-toolc=
hain's
bin directory, and, of course, in the build glibc. I am not sure what are =
the
version requirements here, but I would expect at least the one provided by =
glibc
to be usable.
Have a nice day,
Tomas
0: https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D28845
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Hi! :) >=20 > Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> skribis: >=20 > > when trying to build a system with C.utf8 locale, I end up with the fol= lowing > > error: > > > > building /gnu/store/v6jma6kmwywr509n4y0vypchnh4y5s3m-locale-2.35.dr= v... > > building locale 'C.utf8'... > > [error] LC_MONETARY: value for field `mon_decimal_point' must not b= e an empty string > > [error] no output file produced because errors were issued >=20 > [...] >=20 > > This seems to be a known problem in 2.35, > > https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D28861 . On the page = there is > > also a workaround, and that is to compile with the locales with -c. > > > > So that would be one solution until we update to 2.36 or higher. I do = not see a > > way to override this (add the -c) from the operating-system definition. >=20 > We could/should fix this in (gnu system locale). That is currently not possible I am afraid, since %default-locale-definitio= ns is global, not per-version, and glibc-2.33 is installed by default. >=20 > Now, it would also be nice if C.utf8 were built-in, shipped with the > =E2=80=98glibc=E2=80=99 package we have (to me that=E2=80=99s the whole p= oint of C.utf8). We > should fix that now in =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99. Ideas on how to d= o that? After short research, I do have an idea. My knowledge of Guix's internals = is not good enough (yet? :)) to implement it though. And I am not even sure it should be done. Anyway here it goes: 1. Add a phase after 'install that builds and installs the C.utf8 locale, as documented here[0]. 2. Make glibc package add the directory into GUIX_LOCPATH. Since it accept= s : separated directories, it should be possible, however I am unsure how. I think that should do it. However, I am not sure what the benefit would b= e. The base locale is C, anything else (like C.utf8) is extra, and user needs = to modify LANG to get it working anyway. So installing it via the glibc-local= es seems fine enough. In my opinion, the correct long-term approach here is to just add C.utf8 in= to %default-locale-definitions. That however cannot be done until glibc-2.33 = is dropped from %default-locale-libcs. For the time being however, using C.utf8 is solvable[1] from the operating-system definition, with the exception of compiling the locale. A= bout which is this issue and the fix is trivial[2]. I am not sure this issue is worth overthinking it. 0: https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Running-make-install.= html 1: https://emacs.ch/@graywolf/111404592336140803 2: https://git.sr.ht/~graywolf/guix/commit/1e94b59a7b27d44435f321083a01242b= df16c566 Let me know what you think :) Tomas --=20 There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. --f9JAAyI27Xq6Kzpr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEt4NJs4wUfTYpiGikL7/ufbZ/wakFAmVlQNIACgkQL7/ufbZ/ wan0AQ/+OHiwyDN13D0zAWS2o0MkFfs3bxt3ayWWNZE4QSvlWoYXnIlZnB56qREq JKbfEc3ujuFZRrwIwhJ3cDQR3yr2edoIAZVv2VLPAR1BjUbeVe5Wm0MJxDvlSLr6 dNQqJEL8NIHMN2COWzQbyxPHP5eREDFgAW5JdB3UXiVVI4LRYwogD92kZO0x6Uj3 T21Ndqu7B1qOHWAOXdnwOqqvjUFoHxR/WF94PNs89CDKHdcR5vM9GJ2QM1y6CjXb +S6PPO/v6O1x+rCMo+BbLHTiSitObwVhY5fQ9iVXqUcGAqKaQaqhd80vAELjzBYj SFsxZb9JPPbabuYDrmQqVnmKbKsa7HqTbH2NzQFAU+n5ig4NytMDUuG8EFGXip71 n+9gmyc6/sHTDIxk0sRrBRwGmKmIFTl8GgcVFWADaQsVvvd1RtfVIweCSlabfwfY vgBLqlvjHrP6Pzo9n3j+c84kwvkRCoR/Xs2VJEpVnkl1jy8bKiMTAjcZaX8MWcI7 vIcINUh0AG8vQtcrBPiV3ubURm8qgjhfMh0JquJKkge29CrAGXtAGG1vh0t/nqow S+RTYKIhuSrGC6nUdGvI3ISXwflGp/hEnMdq7UgXvuk9zqoRQiKiZ7RET8snHguB bm6YGKvbumIqMER9aPQUL1JwRGCxTtp1MLTaSCY7V41oVwXtnQA= =+I50 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f9JAAyI27Xq6Kzpr--
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From: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>
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Subject: C.utf8 locale cannot be built
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Hi,
when trying to build a system with C.utf8 locale, I end up with the followi=
ng
error:
building /gnu/store/v6jma6kmwywr509n4y0vypchnh4y5s3m-locale-2.35.drv...
building locale 'C.utf8'...
[error] LC_MONETARY: value for field `mon_decimal_point' must not be an=
empty string
[error] no output file produced because errors were issued
Backtrace:
2 (primitive-load "/gnu/store/ccv2qfrqxk166ysg6anrzj1kz4h?")
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
285:13 1 (for-each #<procedure 7fffeef5c540 at ice-9/eval.scm:3?> ?)
In guix/build/utils.scm:
812:6 0 (invoke "localedef" "--no-archive" "--prefix" "/gnu/st?" ?)
=20
guix/build/utils.scm:812:6: In procedure invoke:
ERROR:
1. &invoke-error:
program: "localedef"
arguments: ("--no-archive" "--prefix" "/gnu/store/08rlginv27b9v1b=
a4n94plp7lmxjihja-locale-2.35/2.35" "-i" "C" "-f" "UTF-8" "/gnu/store/08rlg=
inv27b9v1ba4n94plp7lmxjihja-locale-2.35/2.35/C.utf8")
exit-status: 4
term-signal: #f
stop-signal: #f
builder for `/gnu/store/v6jma6kmwywr509n4y0vypchnh4y5s3m-locale-2.35.dr=
v' failed with exit code 1
build of /gnu/store/v6jma6kmwywr509n4y0vypchnh4y5s3m-locale-2.35.drv fa=
iled
View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/v6/jma6kmwywr509n4y0vypchnh4y5s3m=
-locale-2.35.drv.gz'.
cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/g47g7zqs5la6qpfmn6q1zgbhp291l1ha-sy=
stem.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built
guix system: error: build of `/gnu/store/g47g7zqs5la6qpfmn6q1zgbhp291l1=
ha-system.drv' failed
This seems to be a known problem in 2.35,
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D28861 . On the page ther=
e is
also a workaround, and that is to compile with the locales with -c.
So that would be one solution until we update to 2.36 or higher. I do not =
see a
way to override this (add the -c) from the operating-system definition.
Tomas Volf
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There are only two hard things in Computer Science:
cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.
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