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30.0.50; [PATCH] Set a new desktop file to mode 0600

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>; Keywords: patch; dated Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:25:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

[...]

> Bottom line: I think we should install this as optional behavior, by
> default off, if at all.  If many people turn it on in their
> customizations, we can later revisit the default value.

So with all these conditions (a custom, off by default), I then think
that we should not install this.  My idea was to have better privacy by
*default*.  If one user have to tweak a custom somewhere to do this, I
think he'd better set the Unix rights on its desktop file by "hand" as
I'm doing now.  And there is still umask also.
-- 
Manuel Giraud




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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:17:36 -0800
> Cc: 67323 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: 67323 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:00:28 +0100
> >>
> >> I had this idea while browsing savehist.el.  It have
> >> 'savehist-file-modes' set to #o600 by default.  Since desktop.el could
> >> also contain histories or others "secrets", I thought that it may a good
> >> idea to have more strict default.
> >>
> >> > The users can make this file unreadable by others if they want.
> >>
> >> Yes and it is what I have done previously for my own desktop file.  The
> >> idea here is to have saner default.  And as I said, it also works the
> >> other way around ;-)
> >>
> >> > It's a backward-incompatible change in any case.
> >>
> >> You are saying that it might surprise users who rely on the "readable
> >> for all" nature of one desktop file by default?  I'd have a hard time to
> >> figure out such a scenario…  But anyway, if you think this patch does
> >> not worth it, say it and I'll close this report.
> >
> > I'll wait a bit for others to chime in, if anyone has an opinion.
> 
> I think the patch makes sense.
> 
> Having defaults that protect users security and privacy better, even if
> only slightly, is not a bad thing, not unless there are cases where it
> hurts.  And I can't think of any such cases here.

desktop.el can create desktop files in any directory, not just under
the user's HOME directory.  (In fact, I use this feature a lot: I have
different desktop files in different directories, which allows me to
restore the last session on a per-project basis.)  While making the
desktop file unreadable/unwritable by others is probably okay under
HOME, doing that in other directories is not necessarily TRT,
especially if those desktop files can later be used from other users'
sessions.

So, if we install this, I think we need:

  . have a defcustom to control this behavior
  . the default is changed, possibly limit the new behavior to desktop
    files under the HOME directory, leaving the behavior in other
    directories as it is now
  . call out the change in NEWS; if the default changes, we should
    call it out in "Incompatible changes" section

There's also a (probably rare) scenario where the fact that the
desktop file doesn't exist does not necessarily mean it didn't exist
in that same directory.  Consider the following sequence:

  . start Emacs and restore desktop from an existing file
  . delete the desktop file
  . save desktop in the same directory

This could happen, for example, if the original desktop file was
faulty or incorrect in some way, and the user wants to "make it
right".  Completely legitimate (I think I did it myself a few times),
though probably rare.  In this case, the user won't expect the desktop
file to be treated as "new", and will certainly not expect to see its
access bits change in such a drastic way.

Bottom line: I think we should install this as optional behavior, by
default off, if at all.  If many people turn it on in their
customizations, we can later revisit the default value.

Thanks.




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 67323 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:00:28 +0100
>>
>> I had this idea while browsing savehist.el.  It have
>> 'savehist-file-modes' set to #o600 by default.  Since desktop.el could
>> also contain histories or others "secrets", I thought that it may a good
>> idea to have more strict default.
>>
>> > The users can make this file unreadable by others if they want.
>>
>> Yes and it is what I have done previously for my own desktop file.  The
>> idea here is to have saner default.  And as I said, it also works the
>> other way around ;-)
>>
>> > It's a backward-incompatible change in any case.
>>
>> You are saying that it might surprise users who rely on the "readable
>> for all" nature of one desktop file by default?  I'd have a hard time to
>> figure out such a scenario=E2=80=A6  But anyway, if you think this patch=
 does
>> not worth it, say it and I'll close this report.
>
> I'll wait a bit for others to chime in, if anyone has an opinion.

I think the patch makes sense.

Having defaults that protect users security and privacy better, even if
only slightly, is not a bad thing, not unless there are cases where it
hurts.  And I can't think of any such cases here.




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> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 67323 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:00:28 +0100
> 
> I had this idea while browsing savehist.el.  It have
> 'savehist-file-modes' set to #o600 by default.  Since desktop.el could
> also contain histories or others "secrets", I thought that it may a good
> idea to have more strict default.
> 
> > The users can make this file unreadable by others if they want.
> 
> Yes and it is what I have done previously for my own desktop file.  The
> idea here is to have saner default.  And as I said, it also works the
> other way around ;-)
> 
> > It's a backward-incompatible change in any case.
> 
> You are saying that it might surprise users who rely on the "readable
> for all" nature of one desktop file by default?  I'd have a hard time to
> figure out such a scenario…  But anyway, if you think this patch does
> not worth it, say it and I'll close this report.

I'll wait a bit for others to chime in, if anyone has an opinion.

Thanks.




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:23:56 +0100
>> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>>=20
>> As a desktop file can contain some "secret" data, I think it is better
>> to make it read/write only to the user by default.  This does not
>> prevent the user to later change the mode of this desktop file if he
>> wants to "share" it.
>
> We don't do this in other cases, AFAICT, so why do it here?

Hi Eli,

I had this idea while browsing savehist.el.  It have
'savehist-file-modes' set to #o600 by default.  Since desktop.el could
also contain histories or others "secrets", I thought that it may a good
idea to have more strict default.

> The users can make this file unreadable by others if they want.

Yes and it is what I have done previously for my own desktop file.  The
idea here is to have saner default.  And as I said, it also works the
other way around ;-)

> It's a backward-incompatible change in any case.

You are saying that it might surprise users who rely on the "readable
for all" nature of one desktop file by default?  I'd have a hard time to
figure out such a scenario=E2=80=A6  But anyway, if you think this patch do=
es
not worth it, say it and I'll close this report.

Thanks,
--=20
Manuel Giraud




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> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:23:56 +0100
> From:  Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> As a desktop file can contain some "secret" data, I think it is better
> to make it read/write only to the user by default.  This does not
> prevent the user to later change the mode of this desktop file if he
> wants to "share" it.

We don't do this in other cases, AFAICT, so why do it here?

The users can make this file unreadable by others if they want.

It's a backward-incompatible change in any case.




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Hi,

As a desktop file can contain some "secret" data, I think it is better
to make it read/write only to the user by default.  This does not
prevent the user to later change the mode of this desktop file if he
wants to "share" it.

Best regards,

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From 50605fe88c7c777592a4a785c92004d757809428 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:15:45 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Set a new desktop file to mode 0600

* lisp/desktop.el (desktop-save): Set a new desktop file to mode 0600
by default.
---
 lisp/desktop.el | 7 +++++++
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)

diff --git a/lisp/desktop.el b/lisp/desktop.el
index f096f13ab80..dc6b48f8844 100644
--- a/lisp/desktop.el
+++ b/lisp/desktop.el
@@ -1158,6 +1158,13 @@ desktop-save
 	    (desktop-release-lock)
 	  (unless (and new-modtime (desktop-owner)) (desktop-claim-lock)))
 
+        ;; If the desktop file does not exist, create one only
+        ;; read/writable by user.
+        (let ((full-name (desktop-full-file-name)))
+          (unless (file-exists-p full-name)
+            (make-empty-file full-name)
+            (set-file-modes full-name #o600)))
+
         ;; What format are we going to write the file in?
         (setq desktop-io-file-version
               (cond
-- 
2.42.1


--=-=-=
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mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums gmm-utils mailheader
gnus-win ebdb-mua ebdb-com crm ebdb-format ebdb mailabbrev eieio-opt
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nnheader gnus-util mail-utils range mm-util mail-prsvr wid-edit web-mode
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tramp-message tramp-compat xdg shell pcomplete parse-time iso8601
time-date format-spec tramp-loaddefs slime-fancy slime-indentation
slime-cl-indent cl-indent slime-trace-dialog slime-fontifying-fu
slime-package-fu slime-references slime-compiler-notes-tree advice
slime-scratch slime-presentations bridge slime-macrostep macrostep
slime-mdot-fu slime-enclosing-context slime-fuzzy slime-fancy-trace
slime-fancy-inspector slime-c-p-c slime-editing-commands slime-autodoc
slime-repl slime-parse slime apropos compile text-property-search etags
fileloop generator xref project arc-mode archive-mode noutline outline
icons pp comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring hyperspec thingatpt
slime-autoloads edmacro kmacro use-package-bind-key bind-key appt
diary-lib diary-loaddefs cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs pcase dired-x
dired-aux dired dired-loaddefs notifications dbus xml cl-extra help-mode
use-package-core repeat easy-mmode desktop frameset debbugs-autoloads
ebdb-autoloads ef-themes-autoloads exwm-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads
magit-autoloads git-commit-autoloads finder-inf magit-section-autoloads
dash-autoloads on-screen-autoloads osm-autoloads paredit-autoloads
rust-mode-autoloads speed-type-autoloads transmission-autoloads
with-editor-autoloads info compat-autoloads ytdious-autoloads package
browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history
url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf url-util mailcap url-handlers
url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs password-cache
json subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars cl-loaddefs
cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify
ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win
term/common-win x-dnd touch-screen tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt
fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode
register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
threads kqueue lcms2 dynamic-setting font-render-setting xinput2 x
multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 1120120 482852) (symbols 48 57677 39)
 (strings 32 296390 30784) (string-bytes 1 9719758)
 (vectors 16 181383) (vector-slots 8 3111778 142788)
 (floats 8 690 1106) (intervals 56 52158 2695) (buffers 992 125))

-- 
Manuel Giraud

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Acknowledgement sent to Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#67323; Package emacs. Full text available.
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