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Full text available.Received: (at 69263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2024 12:42:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 19 07:42:29 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40604 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rc2yb-0001So-Gl for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 07:42:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rc2yZ-0001SY-F8; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 07:42:28 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rc2y8-000652-Sl; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 07:42:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rLwYYcDYm5F/6CKDYFZ2izHkp+od1GXAMlmjkHbtOqY=; b=iiqpUX9Hfw8F niB2p8Hy/AU/wcUffIUaWwia/0/fXSTJWDRByKPtuRCiVgZyrhX2JTqRQg2rPakvownrz5DtSm75N JRxVqXBVvqwxfQ7bRfo+mpeHd+tnHC63GfbohXG/9WJQo7gnS0Ay93NF4rZ2+umqbPRE3/922wLlU kPHjQ78jZPVbGg+dfyBrzOWHEZQGGlxu9OJDIbDMaAsnEH+2RaNysIkuNiUrRSYAqxZPliIRga3k4 CI+ZhOaz452RWAr2kt4SYj1EqTzTUK6Gr5h5vlvH9B/2dgCzrSJK3t+vItgjo7MotuA5UDJZhUJHd rB4C8SfzkWqbG13x3frrnQ==; Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 14:41:58 +0200 Message-Id: <86wmr0pqw9.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: awrhygty@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <TYZPR01MB3920433162F8A8A1036B1D4DC3512@HIDDEN> (awrhygty@HIDDEN) Subject: Re: bug#69263: 29.1; emacs freeze with memory swap References: <TYZPR01MB3920433162F8A8A1036B1D4DC3512@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69263 Cc: 69263 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) tags 69263 moreinfo thanks > From: awrhygty@HIDDEN > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 14:56:10 +0900 > > > My PC has 8GB memory and HDD, no SSD. > Emacs freezes with the procedure below. > > (0) Close all applications. > (1) Start task manager. > Confirm disk usage is low and memory usage is about 2GB or less. > (2) Start emacs -Q > (3) Evaluate the form below > (progn (make-string (* 8000 1000 1000) 0) > (kill-emacs)) > (4) Memory usage increases and then decreases in ten seconds. > (5) Disk usage keep 100% active for a few minutes. > (6) Application window of emacs keep alive and emacs process name is > displayed in the process tab of task manager. > (At least 10 hours, I waited.) I don't have a 8GB 64-bit Windows system to try this, and the results are likely to be dependent on the intimate details of the Virtual Memory setup on that system. So if you want to help us understand what happens in the strange case where a Lisp program creates a 8GB Lisp string, and clear it all, on a 8GB MS-Windows system, please attach GDB to Emacs after running the above recipe, and produce a backtrace that can be used to try to figure out what happens. (I hope that your Emacs binary is not stripped of debugging symbols, because if it's stripped, GDB will not tell anything useful.) Thanks.
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My PC has 8GB memory and HDD, no SSD.
Emacs freezes with the procedure below.
(0) Close all applications.
(1) Start task manager.
Confirm disk usage is low and memory usage is about 2GB or less.
(2) Start emacs -Q
(3) Evaluate the form below
(progn (make-string (* 8000 1000 1000) 0)
(kill-emacs))
(4) Memory usage increases and then decreases in ten seconds.
(5) Disk usage keep 100% active for a few minutes.
(6) Application window of emacs keep alive and emacs process name is
displayed in the process tab of task manager.
(At least 10 hours, I waited.)
In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2023-08-02 built on
AVALON
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19045.4046)
Configured using:
'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation=aot
--without-compress-install --with-tree-sitter CFLAGS=-O2'
Configured features:
ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP
NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB
(NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available)
Important settings:
value of $LANG: JPN
locale-coding-system: cp932
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
eldoc-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
indent-tabs-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date subr-x mm-decode
mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader
cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util
mail-prsvr mail-utils term/bobcat japan-util rmc iso-transl tooltip
cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
elisp-mode mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win
w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register
page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process
native-compile emacs)
Memory information:
((conses 16 51566 9231)
(symbols 48 5198 0)
(strings 32 15196 1637)
(string-bytes 1 409249)
(vectors 16 10772)
(vector-slots 8 335055 18016)
(floats 8 35 38)
(intervals 56 228 9)
(buffers 984 10))
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