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On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 05:38:26AM +0100, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > I wonder if this is something we're doing (like makeKeyAndOrderFront
> > being called on the new frame and it not checking canBecomeKeyWindow)
> > or if there's some other step we need to take to prevent this. I'm
> > fairly sure that I've never seen these warnings so presumably they're
> > new since 10.14.
>
> You are thinking of this in nsterm.m?
>
> - (void)makeKeyAndOrderFront:(id)sender
> {
> NSTRACE ("[EmacsWindow makeKeyAndOrderFront:]");
>
> if ([self parentWindow])
> {
> [self orderFront:sender];
> [self makeKeyWindow];
> }
> else
> [super makeKeyAndOrderFront:sender];
> }
Yes. I think it's the only place we actually call makeKeyWindow
ourselves, so perhaps it should have a test. Could be worth it just to
see if it makes the messages go away.
So I guess just something like
if ([self canBecomeKeyWindow])
[self makeKeyWindow];
--
Alan Third
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NSTextInputClient has > apparently been around since macOS 10.5, and I haven't heard of this > problem before... EmacsView *should* conform to NSTextInputClient > because it's a subclass of NSView. I've now compared Apple's docss at https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nstextinputclient with what's in nsterm.m, and I think it's indeed different. (Add usual disclaimer that I know neither ObjC nor NS.) Apple: func setMarkedText(Any, selectedRange: NSRange, replacementRange: NSRange) Replaces a specified range in the receiver=E2=80=99s text storage with th= e given string and sets the selection. Required nsterm.m - (void)setMarkedText: (id)aString selectedRange: (NSRange)selRange func validAttributesForMarkedText() -> [NSAttributedString.Key] Returns an array of attribute names recognized by the receiver. Required - (NSArray *)validAttributesForMarkedText func attributedSubstring(forProposedRange: NSRange, actualRange: NSRangeP= ointer?) -> NSAttributedString? - (NSAttributedString *)attributedSubstringFromRange: (NSRange)theRange func insertText(Any, replacementRange: NSRange) Inserts the given string into the receiver, replacing the specified conte= nt. Required - (void)insertText: (id)aString Stopped here.
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Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Found out how to reproduce this with emacs -Q. In scratch, eval
>>
>> (make-frame (list (cons 'parent-frame (selected-frame))
>> (cons 'no-accept-focus t)))
>>
>> This looks to me like some function in ELPA package consult uses
>> no-accept-focus t, so that nsterm.m returns NO from canBecomeKeyWindow.
>> Consult with posframe seems to work anyway, so...
>
> We should be able to create a frame without the system throwing out
> errors, though.
True.
> I wonder if this is something we're doing (like makeKeyAndOrderFront
> being called on the new frame and it not checking canBecomeKeyWindow)
> or if there's some other step we need to take to prevent this. I'm
> fairly sure that I've never seen these warnings so presumably they're
> new since 10.14.
You are thinking of this in nsterm.m?
- (void)makeKeyAndOrderFront:(id)sender
{
NSTRACE ("[EmacsWindow makeKeyAndOrderFront:]");
if ([self parentWindow])
{
[self orderFront:sender];
[self makeKeyWindow];
}
else
[super makeKeyAndOrderFront:sender];
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Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented? > >> >>> > >> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. > > > > Odd, Apple's documentation says: > > > > The value of this property is YES if the window can become the key > > window, otherwise, NO. > > > > Attempts to make the window the key window are abandoned if the > > value of this property is NO. The value of this property is YES if > > the window has a title bar or a resize bar, or NO otherwise. > > > > Is there anything unusual about your frames? > > Found out how to reproduce this with emacs -Q. In scratch, eval > > (make-frame (list (cons 'parent-frame (selected-frame)) > (cons 'no-accept-focus t))) > > This looks to me like some function in ELPA package consult uses > no-accept-focus t, so that nsterm.m returns NO from canBecomeKeyWindow. > Consult with posframe seems to work anyway, so... We should be able to create a frame without the system throwing out errors, though. I wonder if this is something we're doing (like makeKeyAndOrderFront being called on the new frame and it not checking canBecomeKeyWindow) or if there's some other step we need to take to prevent this. I'm fairly sure that I've never seen these warnings so presumably they're new since 10.14. -- Alan Third
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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
> Found out how to reproduce this with emacs -Q. In scratch, eval
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> (make-frame (list (cons 'parent-frame (selected-frame))
> (cons 'no-accept-focus t)))
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> This looks to me like some function in ELPA package consult uses
> no-accept-focus t, so that nsterm.m returns NO from canBecomeKeyWindow.
> Consult with posframe seems to work anyway, so...
FYI, it's actually posframe. I've submitted an issue for that
https://github.com/tumashu/posframe/issues/136
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Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented? >> >>> >> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning:= -[NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which retur= ned NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. > > Odd, Apple's documentation says: > > The value of this property is YES if the window can become the key > window, otherwise, NO. >=20=20=20=20=20 > Attempts to make the window the key window are abandoned if the > value of this property is NO. The value of this property is YES if > the window has a title bar or a resize bar, or NO otherwise. > > Is there anything unusual about your frames? Found out how to reproduce this with emacs -Q. In scratch, eval (make-frame (list (cons 'parent-frame (selected-frame)) (cons 'no-accept-focus t))) This looks to me like some function in ELPA package consult uses no-accept-focus t, so that nsterm.m returns NO from canBecomeKeyWindow. Consult with posframe seems to work anyway, so... >> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:35.434255+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUIN= SCursorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputCli= ent protocol. > > I don't have the first clue about this one. NSTextInputClient has > apparently been around since macOS 10.5, and I haven't heard of this > problem before... EmacsView *should* conform to NSTextInputClient > because it's a subclass of NSView. This doesn't seem to be related to the other warning. To reproduce, start emacs -Q from a terminal and switch focus between Emacs and Terminal. Of course, I have no idea either what it means either. > >> >> >> >> Alan, any ideas or suggestions? >> > >> > I think this could be related to tab-bar-mode (C-x t 2, ...), which I >> > started using today. I'm also observing frequest beach balls (freezes) >> > with tabs. >>=20 >> Beach balls of death, i.e. Emacs doesn't seem to recover. > > Please try reverting 6acb3c5b05a7b9fb32a5336e1bb740f527571ae9. I > expect that'll fix the freezing, but I don't know about the others. The commit didn't make a difference, as far as the 2 warnings are concerned. With the freezes I'm no step further, BTW, but that's a different subject, I guess.
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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Please try reverting 6acb3c5b05a7b9fb32a5336e1bb740f527571ae9. I
>> expect that'll fix the freezing, but I don't know about the others.
>
> Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
I did revert the commit, but I now think, the freezes might not be
related to this all:
When trying to start Emacs after the revert, Emacs froze. I have a
desktop file that loads Emacs' frame.h. And Emacs freezes only if I load
eglot in my init file, and put eglot-ensure in c-mode-common-hook.
The other freezes I saw yesterday were also while doing C stuff, so they
could be related to using Eglot as well.
Maybe it's some change in Eglot, or, below that, in Emacs process code?
If someone knows if something changed in Eglot and/or Emacs in that
department, I'd be grateful.
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Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented? >> >>> >> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning:= -[NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which retur= ned NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. > > Odd, Apple's documentation says: > > The value of this property is YES if the window can become the key > window, otherwise, NO. >=20=20=20=20=20 > Attempts to make the window the key window are abandoned if the > value of this property is NO. The value of this property is YES if > the window has a title bar or a resize bar, or NO otherwise. > > Is there anything unusual about your frames? I have menu-bar-mode, toolbar-mode, scroll-bar-mode nil, and I use 1 frame in full screen. I also tried to use tabs today. That's when I noticed the messagers, because I started Emacs in LLDB to maybe get an impression where the freezes come frame with tabs. (No luck so far.) Don't know how tabs are implemented, maybe these are also some NS widget/view? > >> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:35.434255+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] >-[TUINSCursorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to >NSTextInputClient protocol. This also appears when never using tabs in a session, BTW. > I don't have the first clue about this one. NSTextInputClient has > apparently been around since macOS 10.5, and I haven't heard of this > problem before... EmacsView *should* conform to NSTextInputClient > because it's a subclass of NSView. > >> >> >> >> Alan, any ideas or suggestions? >> > >> > I think this could be related to tab-bar-mode (C-x t 2, ...), which I >> > started using today. I'm also observing frequest beach balls (freezes) >> > with tabs. >>=20 >> Beach balls of death, i.e. Emacs doesn't seem to recover. > > Please try reverting 6acb3c5b05a7b9fb32a5336e1bb740f527571ae9. I > expect that'll fix the freezing, but I don't know about the others. Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
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On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 06:36:29PM +0100, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> >
> >>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> >>> Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2024 17:18:42 +0100
> >>>
> >>> The following warnings are printed to stderr, which I haven't seen
> >>> previously. Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented?
> >>>
> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow].
Odd, Apple's documentation says:
The value of this property is YES if the window can become the key
window, otherwise, NO.
Attempts to make the window the key window are abandoned if the
value of this property is NO. The value of this property is YES if
the window has a title bar or a resize bar, or NO otherwise.
Is there anything unusual about your frames?
> >>> 2024-03-03 17:10:35.434255+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCursorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient protocol.
I don't have the first clue about this one. NSTextInputClient has
apparently been around since macOS 10.5, and I haven't heard of this
problem before... EmacsView *should* conform to NSTextInputClient
because it's a subclass of NSView.
> >>
> >> Alan, any ideas or suggestions?
> >
> > I think this could be related to tab-bar-mode (C-x t 2, ...), which I
> > started using today. I'm also observing frequest beach balls (freezes)
> > with tabs.
>
> Beach balls of death, i.e. Emacs doesn't seem to recover.
Please try reverting 6acb3c5b05a7b9fb32a5336e1bb740f527571ae9. I
expect that'll fix the freezing, but I don't know about the others.
--
Alan Third
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From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#69525: 30.0.50; MacOS: New warnings on stderr
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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
>>> Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2024 17:18:42 +0100
>>>
>>> The following warnings are printed to stderr, which I haven't seen
>>> previously. Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented?
>>>
>>> 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[=
NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned=
NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow].
>>> 2024-03-03 17:10:35.434255+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCu=
rsorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient=
protocol.
>>> 2024-03-03 17:10:37.073109+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[=
NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned=
NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow].
>>> 2024-03-03 17:13:19.141805+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCu=
rsorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient=
protocol.
>>
>> Alan, any ideas or suggestions?
>
> I think this could be related to tab-bar-mode (C-x t 2, ...), which I
> started using today. I'm also observing frequest beach balls (freezes)
> with tabs.
Beach balls of death, i.e. Emacs doesn't seem to recover.
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Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented? >> >> 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[N= SWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned = NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. >> 2024-03-03 17:10:35.434255+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCur= sorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient = protocol. >> 2024-03-03 17:10:37.073109+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[N= SWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned = NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. >> 2024-03-03 17:13:19.141805+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCur= sorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient = protocol. > > Alan, any ideas or suggestions? I think this could be related to tab-bar-mode (C-x t 2, ...), which I started using today. I'm also observing frequest beach balls (freezes) with tabs.
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Maybe canBecomeKeyWindow should be implemented? 2024-03-03 17:10:16.334906+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. 2024-03-03 17:10:35.434255+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCursorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient protocol. 2024-03-03 17:10:37.073109+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [Window] Warning: -[NSWindow makeKeyWindow] called on EmacsWindow 0x7f7d90a34030 which returned NO from -[NSWindow canBecomeKeyWindow]. 2024-03-03 17:13:19.141805+0100 emacs[12805:61381] [CursorUI] -[TUINSCursorUIController activate:]: EmacsView doesn't conform to NSTextInputClient protocol. In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin23.3.0, NS appkit-2487.40 Version 14.3.1 (Build 23D60)) of 2024-03-01 built on Pro.fritz.box Repository revision: 862dfef88d8e62d12bac3ca2e44e035a2ff5b298 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2487 System Description: macOS 14.3.1
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