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Full text available.Received: (at 70399) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2024 07:39:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 21 03:39:12 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41222 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ryRn5-0005Vr-42 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2024 03:39:12 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:57404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ikumi@HIDDEN>) id 1ryRn2-0005VK-Fi for 70399 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2024 03:39:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-34-11.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.34.11]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E83945C; Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:38:50 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> To: Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#70399: ConTeXT options need updating In-reply-to: <ZiPhJF4bCy5rg212@HIDDEN> References: <Zh0tUugP1yvUGFru@HIDDEN> <5777.1713421894@localhost> <ZiGG5kZy7j2vZ/YX@HIDDEN> <8414.1713602689@localhost> <ZiPhJF4bCy5rg212@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> message dated "Sat, 20 Apr 2024 12:37:08 -0300." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <13690.1713685130.1@localhost> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:38:50 +0900 Message-ID: <13691.1713685130@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70399 Cc: 70399 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Jim, >>>>> Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> writes: >> Do you think AUCTeX should do smart action to avoid "--nonstopmode" when >> "--synctex" is requested by the user, so that >> (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") >> isn't necessary on the user side? It isn't difficult to have >> "--nonstopmode" only when `TeX-source-correlate-mode' and >> `TeX-interactive-mode' are nil. > I think that would be an even nicer solution! I will point out that the > Head Honcho of ConTeXT said (on the ConTeXT users mailing list) > - running context in nonstop mode makes little sense > He did not elaborate on that comment. However, I note that when context > finds an error in an input file, even without -nonstopmode, the process > terminates (in a few tests I did) , unlike (e.g.,) pdftex, which as you > know waits for user input. > I spent a few minutes trying various command line options and commands > inside the source file, and I can't get context to stop on error and wait > for input. This doesn't mean that there is no way to do it, and poking > through the code I see a lot of code related to 'nonstopmode' and > 'errorstopmode', but I don't know how to make context stop on an error and > wait for input. Thanks, I pushed the fix including the change to omit --nonstop option when --synctex option is present. > I could ask for clarification about this on the context users' list if you > would like to hear a more authoritative opinion before making changes. Let > me know. Thanks, I don't think that's necessary. I'll close this bug. Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW
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What was this option >>> "--texutil" for? Unfortunately, "context --help" of TeX Live 2024 >>> doesn't give me useful information. >> I am a relatively recent ConTeXt convert, so I have never used it. >> However, the documentation I can find indicates that texutil was used for >> ConTeXt Mk II, which has (long since) been deprecated (as I understand it). >> I guess since it doesn't hurt anything, it could stay, but I think that it >> has no use in ConTeXt Mk IV. > I see, thanks. I guess this option is necessary for only rather old > context binaries and expect it can be removed safely for now. I expect so as well. ConTeXt is a bit of a moving target, and (like many other software tools) if someone is having any issues with it, I feel confident in saying the developers and the rest of the community will tell people to upgrade to the latest and greatest before any help can be provided. >>>> (b) but if context is called with "--nonstopmode" (or "--nonstop") >>>> the "--synctex=..." request to create a synctex file is over-ridden. >>>> It is easy for a user who knows what is going on to use >>>> (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") > Do you think AUCTeX should do smart action to avoid "--nonstopmode" when > "--synctex" is requested by the user, so that > (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") > isn't necessary on the user side? It isn't difficult to have > "--nonstopmode" only when `TeX-source-correlate-mode' and > `TeX-interactive-mode' are nil. I think that would be an even nicer solution! I will point out that the Head Honcho of ConTeXT said (on the ConTeXT users mailing list) - running context in nonstop mode makes little sense He did not elaborate on that comment. However, I note that when context finds an error in an input file, even without -nonstopmode, the process terminates (in a few tests I did) , unlike (e.g.,) pdftex, which as you know waits for user input. I spent a few minutes trying various command line options and commands inside the source file, and I can't get context to stop on error and wait for input. This doesn't mean that there is no way to do it, and poking through the code I see a lot of code related to 'nonstopmode' and 'errorstopmode', but I don't know how to make context stop on an error and wait for input. I could ask for clarification about this on the context users' list if you would like to hear a more authoritative opinion before making changes. Let me know. Cheers. Jim
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Full text available.Received: (at 70399) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2024 08:45:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 20 04:45:11 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35173 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ry6LP-0005Os-Fu for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2024 04:45:11 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:55836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ikumi@HIDDEN>) id 1ry6LN-0005OC-45 for 70399 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2024 04:45:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-34-11.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.34.11]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DEC465C; Sat, 20 Apr 2024 17:44:50 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> To: Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#70399: ConTeXT options need updating In-reply-to: <ZiGG5kZy7j2vZ/YX@HIDDEN> References: <Zh0tUugP1yvUGFru@HIDDEN> <5777.1713421894@localhost> <ZiGG5kZy7j2vZ/YX@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> message dated "Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:47:34 -0300." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8411.1713602689.1@localhost> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 17:44:49 +0900 Message-ID: <8414.1713602689@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70399 Cc: 70399 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Jim, >>>>> Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> writes: >> It is easy to remove "--texutil", but I'd like to ask whether it is safe >> for older (before 2023) TeX distribution to do so. What was this option >> "--texutil" for? Unfortunately, "context --help" of TeX Live 2024 >> doesn't give me useful information. > I am a relatively recent ConTeXt convert, so I have never used it. > However, the documentation I can find indicates that texutil was used for > ConTeXt Mk II, which has (long since) been deprecated (as I understand it). > I guess since it doesn't hurt anything, it could stay, but I think that it > has no use in ConTeXt Mk IV. I see, thanks. I guess this option is necessary for only rather old context binaries and expect it can be removed safely for now. >>> (b) but if context is called with "--nonstopmode" (or "--nonstop") >>> the "--synctex=..." request to create a synctex file is over-ridden. >>> It is easy for a user who knows what is going on to use >>> (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") Do you think AUCTeX should do smart action to avoid "--nonstopmode" when "--synctex" is requested by the user, so that (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") isn't necessary on the user side? It isn't difficult to have "--nonstopmode" only when `TeX-source-correlate-mode' and `TeX-interactive-mode' are nil. Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW
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None of the AUCTeX maintainer uses ConTeXt, so > inputs from ConTeXt user are valuable. Glad you think so! >>>>>> Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> writes: >> (1) TeX-command-list contains the following >> ("ConTeXt" "%(cntxcom) --once --texutil %(extraopts) %(execopts)%t" >> and --texutil isn't in texlive 2023's context, texlive 2024's context, >> or the context in the ConTeXt distribution. > It is easy to remove "--texutil", but I'd like to ask whether it is safe > for older (before 2023) TeX distribution to do so. What was this option > "--texutil" for? Unfortunately, "context --help" of TeX Live 2024 > doesn't give me useful information. I am a relatively recent ConTeXt convert, so I have never used it. However, the documentation I can find indicates that texutil was used for ConTeXt Mk II, which has (long since) been deprecated (as I understand it). I guess since it doesn't hurt anything, it could stay, but I think that it has no use in ConTeXt Mk IV. >> (2) A recent change (early April 2024?) to context has changed how >> synctex is done. >> On the good side, with the right option context will produce a >> synctex file that epdfinfo knows how to parse. >> On the bad side, >> (a) rather than calling with "--synctex=1" (as done in >> ConTeXt-expand-options in context.el) the correct option is now >> "--synctex=repeat"; >> (b) but if context is called with "--nonstopmode" (or "--nonstop") >> the "--synctex=..." request to create a synctex file is over-ridden. >> It is easy for a user who knows what is going on to use >> (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") >> but changing --synctex=1 to --synctex=repeat seems to require >> a redefinition of the function. >> The --synctex=repeat version may not have reached texlive 2024 yet, but >> using --synctex=repeat with the version of context in TL2024 creates the >> same synctex file as --synctex=1, so there seems to be no harm in >> changing this. > OK, then I'll change "--synctex=1" to "--synctex=repeat", expecting that > the situation about compatibility is the same for older ConTeXt. Thanks. >> Bonus "bug": TeX-submit-bug-report suggests upgrading to the version from >> https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex, but as of today that would be a >> downgrade, since it says the current auctex version is 13.3. > The message is followed by "if your installation is older than the one > available from the web site.", isn't it? 🙂 Good point! Cheers. Jim
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Full text available.Received: (at 70399) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2024 06:31:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 18 02:31:58 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rxLJN-0007KT-5w for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:31:57 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:50642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ikumi@HIDDEN>) id 1rxLJH-0007JZ-94 for 70399 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:31:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-34-11.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.34.11]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 717045F; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:31:35 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> To: Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#70399: ConTeXT options need updating In-reply-to: <Zh0tUugP1yvUGFru@HIDDEN> References: <Zh0tUugP1yvUGFru@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> message dated "Mon, 15 Apr 2024 10:36:18 -0300." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:31:34 +0900 Message-ID: <5777.1713421894@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70399 Cc: 70399 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Jim, Thank you for your report. None of the AUCTeX maintainer uses ConTeXt, so inputs from ConTeXt user are valuable. >>>>> Jim <zlists+context@HIDDEN> writes: > (1) TeX-command-list contains the following > ("ConTeXt" "%(cntxcom) --once --texutil %(extraopts) %(execopts)%t" > and --texutil isn't in texlive 2023's context, texlive 2024's context, > or the context in the ConTeXt distribution. It is easy to remove "--texutil", but I'd like to ask whether it is safe for older (before 2023) TeX distribution to do so. What was this option "--texutil" for? Unfortunately, "context --help" of TeX Live 2024 doesn't give me useful information. > (2) A recent change (early April 2024?) to context has changed how > synctex is done. > On the good side, with the right option context will produce a > synctex file that epdfinfo knows how to parse. > On the bad side, > (a) rather than calling with "--synctex=3D1" (as done in > ConTeXt-expand-options in context.el) the correct option is now > "--synctex=3Drepeat"; > (b) but if context is called with "--nonstopmode" (or "--nonstop") > the "--synctex=3D..." request to create a synctex file is over-ri= dden. > It is easy for a user who knows what is going on to use > (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") > but changing --synctex=3D1 to --synctex=3Drepeat seems to require > a redefinition of the function. > The --synctex=3Drepeat version may not have reached texlive 2024 yet, but > using --synctex=3Drepeat with the version of context in TL2024 creates the > same synctex file as --synctex=3D1, so there seems to be no harm in > changing this. OK, then I'll change "--synctex=3D1" to "--synctex=3Drepeat", expecting that the situation about compatibility is the same for older ConTeXt. > Bonus "bug": TeX-submit-bug-report suggests upgrading to the version from > https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex, but as of today that would be a > downgrade, since it says the current auctex version is 13.3. The message is followed by "if your installation is older than the one available from the web site.", isn't it? =F0=9F=99=82 Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW
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(1) TeX-command-list contains the following ("ConTeXt" "%(cntxcom) --once --texutil %(extraopts) %(execopts)%t" and --texutil isn't in texlive 2023's context, texlive 2024's context, or the context in the ConTeXt distribution. (2) A recent change (early April 2024?) to context has changed how synctex is done. On the good side, with the right option context will produce a synctex file that epdfinfo knows how to parse. On the bad side, (a) rather than calling with "--synctex=1" (as done in ConTeXt-expand-options in context.el) the correct option is now "--synctex=repeat"; (b) but if context is called with "--nonstopmode" (or "--nonstop") the "--synctex=..." request to create a synctex file is over-ridden. It is easy for a user who knows what is going on to use (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") but changing --synctex=1 to --synctex=repeat seems to require a redefinition of the function. The --synctex=repeat version may not have reached texlive 2024 yet, but using --synctex=repeat with the version of context in TL2024 creates the same synctex file as --synctex=1, so there seems to be no harm in changing this. In case it wasn't clear: What I expected to happen: running context would create a synctex file. What happened (with new context): the synctex file was not created. Thanks. Jim Bonus "bug": TeX-submit-bug-report suggests upgrading to the version from https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex, but as of today that would be a downgrade, since it says the current auctex version is 13.3.
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