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[PATCH] Use -P switch when calling 'python-interpreter'

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>; Keywords: patch; dated Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:24:04 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>,  70440 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:08:43 +0200
> 
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 00:25, kobarity wrote:
> 
> > The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
> > can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
> > not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
> > `python-interpreter-args'?
> 
> After sleeping on this, I recommend using -P anyway and simply failing
> if the installed Python is too old.
> 
> The reason is that this has a security implication, similar to the
> recent Org mode Latex preview situation.  Without -P the user is tacitly
> trusting the contents of the current directory.  By tricking an user
> into downloading a malicious file with an intentional name clash (say
> via git pull), arbitrary code could in principle be executed on the
> user's machine.
> 
> The -P switch completely removes this possibility, and conversely,
> without -P there seems to be no reasonable way to make Python safe.
> 
> I've attached a new patch that informs the user why the commands failed
> when Python is too old, which is good enough in my opinion.  Note also
> that this change only affects the Python import management commands,
> which is a very handy but by no means essential feature.

Doing it this way would be an annoyance.  Users could have
less-than-the-latest Python (or non-CPython version) installed for any
number of reasons, and it is not our business to annoy them because of
this.  Security of using Python is not our concern, it is the user's
concern.

So I'd prefer that the change probed the support for the -P switch
when the relevant Emacs commands/functions are first invoked, and used
that if -P is supported, without any annoying messages.  Do you see
any problems with such an approach?

Thanks.




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On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 00:25, kobarity wrote:

> The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
> can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
> not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
> `python-interpreter-args'?

After sleeping on this, I recommend using -P anyway and simply failing
if the installed Python is too old.

The reason is that this has a security implication, similar to the
recent Org mode Latex preview situation.  Without -P the user is tacitly
trusting the contents of the current directory.  By tricking an user
into downloading a malicious file with an intentional name clash (say
via git pull), arbitrary code could in principle be executed on the
user's machine.

The -P switch completely removes this possibility, and conversely,
without -P there seems to be no reasonable way to make Python safe.

I've attached a new patch that informs the user why the commands failed
when Python is too old, which is good enough in my opinion.  Note also
that this change only affects the Python import management commands,
which is a very handy but by no means essential feature.


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From 2cca02440069a31546eff04c8cd6c00b171a85a2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:17:22 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Use -P switch when calling 'python-interpreter'

This excludes the current directory from Python's module load path,
which can be unsafe.

* lisp/progmodes/python.el (python--list-imports, python--do-isort),
(python-fix-imports): Use -P switch
(python--list-imports-check-status): Warn about old Python versions
missing the -P switch.
---
 lisp/progmodes/python.el | 17 +++++++++--------
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/python.el b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
index 85279d3e84b..304aa2d9d6e 100644
--- a/lisp/progmodes/python.el
+++ b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
@@ -6744,9 +6744,9 @@ python--list-imports
 try:
     from isort import find_imports_in_stream, find_imports_in_paths
 except ModuleNotFoundError:
-    exit(2)
-except ImportError:
     exit(3)
+except ImportError:
+    exit(4)
 
 query, files, result = argv[1] or None, argv[2:], {}
 
@@ -6781,8 +6781,9 @@ python--list-imports-check-status
   (unless (eq 0 status)
     (let* ((details
             (cond
-             ((eq 2 status) " (maybe isort is missing?)")
-             ((eq 3 status) " (maybe isort version is older than 5.7.0?)")
+             ((eq 2 status) " (maybe Python version is older than 3.11?)")
+             ((eq 3 status) " (maybe isort is missing?)")
+             ((eq 4 status) " (maybe isort version is older than 5.7.0?)")
              (t "")))
            (msg
             (concat "%s exited with status %s" details)))
@@ -6805,7 +6806,7 @@ python--list-imports
                                   (append
                                    (split-string-shell-command
                                     python-interpreter-args)
-                                   `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
+                                   `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
                                     (list (or name "")))))
                        (with-current-buffer buffer
                          (apply #'call-process
@@ -6814,7 +6815,7 @@ python--list-imports
                                 (append
                                  (split-string-shell-command
                                   python-interpreter-args)
-                                 `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
+                                 `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
                                  (list (or name ""))
                                  (mapcar #'file-local-name source))))))
              lines)
@@ -6862,7 +6863,7 @@ python--do-isort
                                (append
                                  (split-string-shell-command
                                   python-interpreter-args)
-                                 '("-m" "isort" "-")
+                                 '("-Pm" "isort" "-")
                                  args)))
                 (tick (buffer-chars-modified-tick)))
             (unless (eq 0 status)
@@ -6940,7 +6941,7 @@ python-fix-imports
                   (append
                    (split-string-shell-command
                     python-interpreter-args)
-                   '("-m" "pyflakes"))))
+                   '("-Pm" "pyflakes"))))
         (goto-char (point-min))
         (when (looking-at-p ".* No module named pyflakes$")
           (error "%s couldn't find pyflakes" python-interpreter))
-- 
2.44.0


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> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> Cc: kobarity@HIDDEN,  70440 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:02:34 +0200
> 
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 18:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>,  70440 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:52:21 +0200
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 00:25, kobarity wrote:
> >> 
> >> > The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
> >> > can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
> >> > not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
> >> > `python-interpreter-args'?
> >> 
> >> Ah, too bad.  So let's send that option via environment variables.  I'll
> >> make a new patch when I get the chance.
> >
> > Maybe we should discuss this before you sit down to write and text the
> > code.  Pushing things into the environment has its downsides: those
> > environment variables then affect all the subordinate processes,
> > including their children, grandchildren etc.  This is not always
> > wanted.
> 
> In this case we would just let-bind the env variable for this specific
> subprocess call only.  It's no different than passing a command-line
> switch.

Don't then the child processes of that python subprocess inherit the
same variable in their environments?  That's what I meant by what I
wrote above: all of the descendants of our sub-process will inherit
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 18:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>,  70440 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:52:21 +0200
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 00:25, kobarity wrote:
>> 
>> > The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
>> > can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
>> > not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
>> > `python-interpreter-args'?
>> 
>> Ah, too bad.  So let's send that option via environment variables.  I'll
>> make a new patch when I get the chance.
>
> Maybe we should discuss this before you sit down to write and text the
> code.  Pushing things into the environment has its downsides: those
> environment variables then affect all the subordinate processes,
> including their children, grandchildren etc.  This is not always
> wanted.

In this case we would just let-bind the env variable for this specific
subprocess call only.  It's no different than passing a command-line
switch.

> One alternative to environment variables would be detecting whether -P
> is supported before the first time we invoke Python.  We do similar
> stuff for Grep and other programs we invoke.




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> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>,  70440 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:52:21 +0200
> 
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 00:25, kobarity wrote:
> 
> > The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
> > can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
> > not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
> > `python-interpreter-args'?
> 
> Ah, too bad.  So let's send that option via environment variables.  I'll
> make a new patch when I get the chance.

Maybe we should discuss this before you sit down to write and text the
code.  Pushing things into the environment has its downsides: those
environment variables then affect all the subordinate processes,
including their children, grandchildren etc.  This is not always
wanted.

One alternative to environment variables would be detecting whether -P
is supported before the first time we invoke Python.  We do similar
stuff for Grep and other programs we invoke.




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On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 00:25, kobarity wrote:

> The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
> can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
> not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
> `python-interpreter-args'?

Ah, too bad.  So let's send that option via environment variables.  I'll
make a new patch when I get the chance.

This patch is a quite important fix and shouldn't be left to a
customization.  Without it, you need to trust the .py files in the
current directory.  Moreover any name clashes with the built-in library
module names can crash the commands (just happened to me).




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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:23:30 +0200
> > 
> > The attachment should be self-explanatory, otherwise let me know.
> > 
> > 
> > >From 04db8a3fbb29f497fdc728f4413aea162650b30b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:17:22 +0200
> > Subject: [PATCH] Use -P switch when calling 'python-interpreter'
> > 
> > This excludes the current directory from Python's module load path,
> > which can be unsafe.
> > 
> > * lisp/progmodes/python.el (python--list-imports): Use -P switch
> > (python--do-isort): Use -P switch
> > (python-fix-imports): Use -P switch
> > ---
> >  lisp/progmodes/python.el | 8 ++++----
> >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/python.el b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
> > index 85279d3e84b..180a8357aad 100644
> > --- a/lisp/progmodes/python.el
> > +++ b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
> > @@ -6805,7 +6805,7 @@ python--list-imports
> >                                    (append
> >                                     (split-string-shell-command
> >                                      python-interpreter-args)
> > -                                   `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
> > +                                   `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
> >                                      (list (or name "")))))
> >                         (with-current-buffer buffer
> >                           (apply #'call-process
> > @@ -6814,7 +6814,7 @@ python--list-imports
> >                                  (append
> >                                   (split-string-shell-command
> >                                    python-interpreter-args)
> > -                                 `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
> > +                                 `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
> >                                   (list (or name ""))
> >                                   (mapcar #'file-local-name source))))))
> >               lines)
> > @@ -6862,7 +6862,7 @@ python--do-isort
> >                                 (append
> >                                   (split-string-shell-command
> >                                    python-interpreter-args)
> > -                                 '("-m" "isort" "-")
> > +                                 '("-Pm" "isort" "-")
> >                                   args)))
> >                  (tick (buffer-chars-modified-tick)))
> >              (unless (eq 0 status)
> > @@ -6940,7 +6940,7 @@ python-fix-imports
> >                    (append
> >                     (split-string-shell-command
> >                      python-interpreter-args)
> > -                   '("-m" "pyflakes"))))
> > +                   '("-Pm" "pyflakes"))))
> >          (goto-char (point-min))
> >          (when (looking-at-p ".* No module named pyflakes$")
> >            (error "%s couldn't find pyflakes" python-interpreter))
> > -- 
> > 2.44.0
> > 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> kobarity, any comments?

The -P switch is new, introduced in CPython 3.11, so I don't think it
can be added unconditionally.  Furthermore, `python-interpreter' may
not be CPython.  Isn't it enough to customize
`python-interpreter-args'?




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> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:23:30 +0200
> 
> The attachment should be self-explanatory, otherwise let me know.
> 
> 
> >From 04db8a3fbb29f497fdc728f4413aea162650b30b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:17:22 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] Use -P switch when calling 'python-interpreter'
> 
> This excludes the current directory from Python's module load path,
> which can be unsafe.
> 
> * lisp/progmodes/python.el (python--list-imports): Use -P switch
> (python--do-isort): Use -P switch
> (python-fix-imports): Use -P switch
> ---
>  lisp/progmodes/python.el | 8 ++++----
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/python.el b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
> index 85279d3e84b..180a8357aad 100644
> --- a/lisp/progmodes/python.el
> +++ b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
> @@ -6805,7 +6805,7 @@ python--list-imports
>                                    (append
>                                     (split-string-shell-command
>                                      python-interpreter-args)
> -                                   `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
> +                                   `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
>                                      (list (or name "")))))
>                         (with-current-buffer buffer
>                           (apply #'call-process
> @@ -6814,7 +6814,7 @@ python--list-imports
>                                  (append
>                                   (split-string-shell-command
>                                    python-interpreter-args)
> -                                 `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
> +                                 `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
>                                   (list (or name ""))
>                                   (mapcar #'file-local-name source))))))
>               lines)
> @@ -6862,7 +6862,7 @@ python--do-isort
>                                 (append
>                                   (split-string-shell-command
>                                    python-interpreter-args)
> -                                 '("-m" "isort" "-")
> +                                 '("-Pm" "isort" "-")
>                                   args)))
>                  (tick (buffer-chars-modified-tick)))
>              (unless (eq 0 status)
> @@ -6940,7 +6940,7 @@ python-fix-imports
>                    (append
>                     (split-string-shell-command
>                      python-interpreter-args)
> -                   '("-m" "pyflakes"))))
> +                   '("-Pm" "pyflakes"))))
>          (goto-char (point-min))
>          (when (looking-at-p ".* No module named pyflakes$")
>            (error "%s couldn't find pyflakes" python-interpreter))
> -- 
> 2.44.0
> 

Thanks.

kobarity, any comments?




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From 04db8a3fbb29f497fdc728f4413aea162650b30b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:17:22 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Use -P switch when calling 'python-interpreter'

This excludes the current directory from Python's module load path,
which can be unsafe.

* lisp/progmodes/python.el (python--list-imports): Use -P switch
(python--do-isort): Use -P switch
(python-fix-imports): Use -P switch
---
 lisp/progmodes/python.el | 8 ++++----
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/python.el b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
index 85279d3e84b..180a8357aad 100644
--- a/lisp/progmodes/python.el
+++ b/lisp/progmodes/python.el
@@ -6805,7 +6805,7 @@ python--list-imports
                                   (append
                                    (split-string-shell-command
                                     python-interpreter-args)
-                                   `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
+                                   `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
                                     (list (or name "")))))
                        (with-current-buffer buffer
                          (apply #'call-process
@@ -6814,7 +6814,7 @@ python--list-imports
                                 (append
                                  (split-string-shell-command
                                   python-interpreter-args)
-                                 `("-c" ,python--list-imports)
+                                 `("-Pc" ,python--list-imports)
                                  (list (or name ""))
                                  (mapcar #'file-local-name source))))))
              lines)
@@ -6862,7 +6862,7 @@ python--do-isort
                                (append
                                  (split-string-shell-command
                                   python-interpreter-args)
-                                 '("-m" "isort" "-")
+                                 '("-Pm" "isort" "-")
                                  args)))
                 (tick (buffer-chars-modified-tick)))
             (unless (eq 0 status)
@@ -6940,7 +6940,7 @@ python-fix-imports
                   (append
                    (split-string-shell-command
                     python-interpreter-args)
-                   '("-m" "pyflakes"))))
+                   '("-Pm" "pyflakes"))))
         (goto-char (point-min))
         (when (looking-at-p ".* No module named pyflakes$")
           (error "%s couldn't find pyflakes" python-interpreter))
-- 
2.44.0


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