GNU bug report logs - #896
Inclusion of jabber.el in Emacs 24

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Yavor Doganov <yavor <at> gnu.org>; dated Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:45:03 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org.
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Yavor Doganov <yavor <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Possible caveats:
>
> - Copyright assignment: there are not so many contributors AFAIK so it
>   should be doable.

Indeed.

> - Uses (optionally) FLIM features.

These have been merged into Gnus, and in turn into Emacs 23.

> - Most probably something else I'm missing.

Uses CL liberally.  In particular, the following functions are used:

delete-if
delete-if-not
find
find-if
intersection
remove-if
remove-if-not
set-difference
union

And as I'm allergic to code duplication, I'm reluctant to change that.
Could these functions have aliases starting with cl-?  Or could someone
persuade me not to use these functions? :)

Magnus




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Package: emacs
Severity: wishlist

I'd like if one of the most wonderful and adorable Jabber clients,
jabber.el (aka emacs-jabber, <http://emacs-jabber.sourceforge.net>) is
evaluated for inclusion in Emacs 24.

Possible caveats:

- Copyright assignment: there are not so many contributors AFAIK so it
  should be doable.

- Uses (optionally) FLIM features.

- Most probably something else I'm missing.

Pros:

- Rocks.

- Really rocks.  (Personally I find it much more convenient than the
  official GNU Jabber client GNU Freetalk.)

- Jabber (XMPP) is the only free IM protocol, replacement of the
  proprietary AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo!, Gadu-Gadu, etc. etc. protocols.
  I find it odd that Emacs has 2 IRC clients (ERC and the default
  rcirc), but no Jabber client.

- Has many users; some of them have abandoned sophisticated GUI Jabber
  clients (such as Pidgin/Gajim/Psi/Empathy/etc) in favor of
  jabber.el.  (Well, mostly because they're Emacs users, but the
  argument still holds.)


I know such requests should come from the add-on package
maintainer(s), but I see no harm reporting it to the Emacs BTS as a
user.





Acknowledgement sent to Yavor Doganov <yavor <at> gnu.org>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to emacs-jabber-general <at> lists.sourceforge.net, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, emacs-jabber-general <at> lists.sourceforge.net, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#896; Package emacs. Full text available.
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