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Full text available.Received: (at unknown) by unknown; unknown X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 896) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Sep 2008 18:34:01 +0000 Received: from atum.ita.chalmers.se (atum.ita.chalmers.se [129.16.4.148]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m8JIXvbt016253 for <896 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:33:59 -0700 Received: from zemdatav.stor.no-ip.org (remote3.student.chalmers.se [129.16.29.81]) by mail.chalmers.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9976385C9 for <896 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:33:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by zemdatav.stor.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 054A046858; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:33:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Magnus Henoch <mange <at> freemail.hu> To: 896 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#896: Inclusion of jabber.el in Emacs 24 References: <87myimh4sr.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor <at> gnu.org> Mail-Copies-To: never Jabber-Id: legoscia <at> jabber.cd.chalmers.se Disposition-Notification-To: Magnus Henoch <mange <at> freemail.hu> X-Hashcash: 1:23:080919:896 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com::WSw8FRliZfH2mjAQ:0000000000000000000000000000000MTLr Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:33:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87myimh4sr.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor <at> gnu.org> (Yavor Doganov's message of "Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:37:56 +0300") Message-ID: <8763osx9ws.fsf <at> freemail.hu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yavor Doganov <yavor <at> gnu.org> writes: > Possible caveats: > > - Copyright assignment: there are not so many contributors AFAIK so it > should be doable. Indeed. > - Uses (optionally) FLIM features. These have been merged into Gnus, and in turn into Emacs 23. > - Most probably something else I'm missing. Uses CL liberally. In particular, the following functions are used: delete-if delete-if-not find find-if intersection remove-if remove-if-not set-difference union And as I'm allergic to code duplication, I'm reluctant to change that. Could these functions have aliases starting with cl-? Or could someone persuade me not to use these functions? :) Magnus
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Full text available.Received: (at unknown) by unknown; unknown X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, HAS_PACKAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,X_DEBBUGS_CC autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Sep 2008 17:38:08 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m85Hc4Yi030780 for <submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:38:05 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KbfG0-00043z-Of for bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:38:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KbfFy-00043k-BB for bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:38:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52352 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbfFy-00043h-5G for bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:38:02 -0400 Received: from [213.91.245.92] (port=37237 helo=yavor.doganov.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <yavor <at> gnu.org>) id 1KbfFx-00056L-6s for bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:38:01 -0400 Received: from tzotzolana.yavor.doganov.org ([192.168.0.3]) by yavor.doganov.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <yavor <at> gnu.org>) id 1KbfFs-0004fw-Qx for bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:37:58 +0300 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=tzotzolana.yavor.doganov.org) by tzotzolana.yavor.doganov.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <yavor <at> gnu.org>) id 1KbfFs-0003oD-J0 for bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:37:56 +0300 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:37:56 +0300 Message-ID: <87myimh4sr.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor <at> gnu.org> From: Yavor Doganov <yavor <at> gnu.org> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org X-Debbugs-CC: emacs-jabber-general <at> lists.sourceforge.net User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The GNU Emacs Church (Bulgarian eparchy) X-Jabber-ID: doganov <at> jabber.minus273.org MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: yavor <at> gnu.org Subject: Inclusion of jabber.el in Emacs 24 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on yavor.doganov.org) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 2) Package: emacs Severity: wishlist I'd like if one of the most wonderful and adorable Jabber clients, jabber.el (aka emacs-jabber, <http://emacs-jabber.sourceforge.net>) is evaluated for inclusion in Emacs 24. Possible caveats: - Copyright assignment: there are not so many contributors AFAIK so it should be doable. - Uses (optionally) FLIM features. - Most probably something else I'm missing. Pros: - Rocks. - Really rocks. (Personally I find it much more convenient than the official GNU Jabber client GNU Freetalk.) - Jabber (XMPP) is the only free IM protocol, replacement of the proprietary AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo!, Gadu-Gadu, etc. etc. protocols. I find it odd that Emacs has 2 IRC clients (ERC and the default rcirc), but no Jabber client. - Has many users; some of them have abandoned sophisticated GUI Jabber clients (such as Pidgin/Gajim/Psi/Empathy/etc) in favor of jabber.el. (Well, mostly because they're Emacs users, but the argument still holds.) I know such requests should come from the add-on package maintainer(s), but I see no harm reporting it to the Emacs BTS as a user.
Yavor Doganov <yavor <at> gnu.org>:emacs-jabber-general <at> lists.sourceforge.net, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>.
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