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Mon, 13 May 2024 07:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5235ea0a-5481-4490-8e09-6ceada5e08bb@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 14:30:18 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#70900: 30.0.50; tramp complains "File error: Cannot remove lock file for /ssh:..." on every save when remote-file-name-inhibit-locks is non-nil To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> References: <847791f3-e5ed-47d1-87b7-e6e95fb0b8d3@HIDDEN> <87r0e6gsqa.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87r0e6gsqa.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70900 Cc: 70900 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 13/05/2024 08:56, Michael Albinus wrote: >> BTW, I'm surprised this variable isn't mentioned in Tramp's FAQ (the >> performance section in particular). > ??? > > In the Tramp manual, node "Frequently Asked Questions", item "How to > speed up TRAMP?", there is > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > − Disable file locks. Set ‘remote-file-name-inhibit-locks’ to > ‘t’ if you know that different Emacs sessions are not > modifying the same remote file. > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Yes, sorry, I see it now.
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Mon, 13 May 2024 07:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6d8ed744-c05f-4d83-b769-dff6b5ace405@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 14:30:06 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#70900: 30.0.50; tramp complains "File error: Cannot remove lock file for /ssh:..." on every save when remote-file-name-inhibit-locks is non-nil To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> References: <847791f3-e5ed-47d1-87b7-e6e95fb0b8d3@HIDDEN> <87r0e6gsqa.fsf@HIDDEN> <86seymxkub.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86seymxkub.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70900 Cc: 70900 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 13/05/2024 09:54, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> It would also make sense to switch it on by default - it has a >>> noticeable effect on performance. >> No. File locks are an essential part of Emacs. Disabling them has the >> potential to damage something (see above), so it shall be decided by the user. > Agreed. In this aspect I'm commenting as someone who sees user complaints from time to time about how VS Code or etc are faster at remote development than Emacs, and now saw this myself. This particular issue looks like a speed bump that could be removed for good improvement in basic latency. But perhaps it's better approached by optimizing in other places.
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Mon, 13 May 2024 07:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <fc860cad-bec3-48e6-99d0-85b51a6bfc08@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 14:11:55 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#70900: 30.0.50; tramp complains "File error: Cannot remove lock file for /ssh:..." on every save when remote-file-name-inhibit-locks is non-nil To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <847791f3-e5ed-47d1-87b7-e6e95fb0b8d3@HIDDEN> <87r0e6gsqa.fsf@HIDDEN> <86seymxkub.fsf@HIDDEN> <87frumgogm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87frumgogm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70900 Cc: 70900 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi Michael, On 13/05/2024 10:28, Michael Albinus wrote: >>> The description of remote-file-name-inhibit-locks says "Whether to >>> create file locks for remote files.". And this is what Tramp >>> does. Nothing said about checking/removing of lock files. >>> >>> If we want to suppress these actions as well, we shall agree about, and >>> change the doc. Eli? >> I think making the failure to remove be silent in this case is enough. >> If the user sets this variable to t, they are not interested in >> failures to remove lock files, even if it's for reasons other than >> "file does not exist". >> >> IOW, it's okay to try to remove lock files, but if that fails, Emacs >> should not display any error messages. > Done, pushed to master. Anything else, Dmitry? It's a good enough resolution for me. Thank you.
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And this is what Tramp >> does. Nothing said about checking/removing of lock files. >> >> If we want to suppress these actions as well, we shall agree about, and >> change the doc. Eli? > > I think making the failure to remove be silent in this case is enough. > If the user sets this variable to t, they are not interested in > failures to remove lock files, even if it's for reasons other than > "file does not exist". > > IOW, it's okay to try to remove lock files, but if that fails, Emacs > should not display any error messages. Done, pushed to master. Anything else, Dmitry? Best regards, Michael.
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Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> writes:
Hi Dmitry,
> 1. (setq remote-file-name-inhibit-locks t)
> 2. Open some file remotely, lightly edit and save it.
> 3. See this message in the Messages buffer.
The description of remote-file-name-inhibit-locks says "Whether to
create file locks for remote files.". And this is what Tramp
does. Nothing said about checking/removing of lock files.
If we want to suppress these actions as well, we shall agree about, and
change the doc. Eli?
> BTW, I'm surprised this variable isn't mentioned in Tramp's FAQ (the
> performance section in particular).
???
In the Tramp manual, node "Frequently Asked Questions", item "How to
speed up TRAMP?", there is
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
=E2=88=92 Disable file locks. Set =E2=80=98remote-file-name-inhibi=
t-locks=E2=80=99 to
=E2=80=98t=E2=80=99 if you know that different Emacs sessions are=
not
modifying the same remote file.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> It would also make sense to switch it on by default - it has a
> noticeable effect on performance.
No. File locks are an essential part of Emacs. Disabling them has the
potential to damage something (see above), so it shall be decided by the us=
er.
Best regards, Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#70900; Package emacs.
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(setq remote-file-name-inhibit-locks t) 2. Open some file remotely, lightly edit and save it. 3. See this message in the Messages buffer. BTW, I'm surprised this variable isn't mentioned in Tramp's FAQ (the performance section in particular). It would also make sense to switch it on by default - it has a noticeable effect on performance. In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 7, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.18.0, Xaw scroll bars) of 2024-05-12 built on potemkin Repository revision: b20d4ab374fb9b3c80b968df6acd6444f763bd40 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302000 System Description: Ubuntu 23.10
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