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24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Daniel Pittman <dpittman <at> fb.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with
 tramp) 
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 21:47:14 +0000

C-x C-f /sshx:dpittman <at> remotehost.local:/path/to/file/in/hg/repo.txt

…and Emacs hangs.

I had problems with the Hg backend hanging via tramp; checking showed that it
was hung waiting on `less`, which was sitting there telling me that the
terminal wasn't fully featured and could it please, kindly, have some human
input to let it know that it was OK to continue.

Fixing this wasn't too dire: we can just ask hg to not use a pager, which
solves the problem.  It might be a good idea to ask it to be entirely
non-interactive, but I didn't test that, and don't require it for this to work
on my system.

After these changes are applied, the problem is resolved:

(require 'vc-hg)
(defun dp/vc-hg-state-interactive-pager-workaround (args)
  "Potentially modify process-file arguments to work around a vc-hg bug"
  (if (and (equal (first args) vc-hg-program)
           (not (cl-search vc-hg-global-switches args :test 'equal)))
      (concatenate 'list args vc-hg-global-switches)
    args))
(advice-add 'process-file :filter-args 'dp/vc-hg-state-interactive-pager-workaround)
(setq vc-hg-global-switches '("--pager" "never"))


The `vc-hg-global-switches` setting *should* be enough, but unfortunately the
`vc-hg-state` function doesn't *use* that setting, which means that it out and
out needs awful hacks to make it work.

(I could have redefined the function, but this felt better, and should not
cause trouble if we actually fix the bug.)


Anyway, options that probably make sense to set to make this smoother:

1. `HGPLAIN` exists in the environment.

This disables things that might change output, and is recommended for
non-interactive calls to try and discourage random breakage.

2. `-y` or `--noninteractive`

These cause it to pick the first choice if a prompt would have been displayed,
instead of asking interactively.  Probably good on any of the read-only
operations, at the very least.

3. --color never

...because if you have a tty, and less/hg think it is an interactive enough
call to invoke the pager and complain to a human, you might well get color
displayed as well.

4. --pager never

...because you just don't want to page the output for non-interactive use.





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Message #8 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Daniel Pittman <dpittman <at> fb.com>
To: "18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#18940: Acknowledgement (24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager,
 leading to hangs (at least with tramp) )
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 22:13:12 +0000

Additional notes:

Ideally, we should set `HGPLAIN=1` in the environment, but we can’t actually do that successfully if this is run with tramp: tramp doesn’t carry across `process-environment` to the remote system in `process-file` or similar commands.

Setting it unconditionally in tramp-remote-process-environment does fix the problem with no other changes applied, for files accessed via tramp.  Given `process-connection-type` of `t`, I suspect that a local instance will still have problems unless that is set in the local envirnoment.

Message #11 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Daniel Pittman <dpittman <at> fb.com>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 11:24:21 +0100

Daniel Pittman <dpittman <at> fb.com> writes:

> C-x C-f /sshx:dpittman <at> remotehost.local:/path/to/file/in/hg/repo.txt
>
> …and Emacs hangs.
>
> I had problems with the Hg backend hanging via tramp; checking showed that it
> was hung waiting on `less`, which was sitting there telling me that the
> terminal wasn't fully featured and could it please, kindly, have some human
> input to let it know that it was OK to continue.

<http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/PagerExtension> discusses the
problem, and proposes even a solution for "Tramp in Emacs" :-)

> Anyway, options that probably make sense to set to make this smoother:
>
> 1. `HGPLAIN` exists in the environment.
>
> This disables things that might change output, and is recommended for
> non-interactive calls to try and discourage random breakage.

I'm a little bit reluctant to add this per default to
`tramp-remote-process-environment'. There shouldn't be such default
application specific settings.

But the following patch might be sufficient (could you, please, test?):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
*** /home/albinus/src/emacs/lisp/vc/vc-hg.el.~118313~	2014-11-09 11:19:05.851785605 +0100
--- /home/albinus/src/emacs/lisp/vc/vc-hg.el	2014-11-09 11:13:53.255025363 +0100
***************
*** 210,220 ****
  			     ;; can parse the output.
  			     (append (list "TERM=dumb" "LANGUAGE=C")
  				     process-environment)))
! 			(process-file
! 			 vc-hg-program nil t nil
! 			 "--config" "alias.status=status"
! 			 "--config" "defaults.status="
! 			 "status" "-A" (file-relative-name file)))
                      ;; Some problem happened.  E.g. We can't find an `hg'
                      ;; executable.
                      (error nil)))))))
--- 210,227 ----
  			     ;; can parse the output.
  			     (append (list "TERM=dumb" "LANGUAGE=C")
  				     process-environment)))
! 			(if (file-remote-p file)
! 			    (process-file
! 			     "env" nil t nil
! 			     "HGPLAIN=1" vc-hg-program
! 			     "--config" "alias.status=status"
! 			     "--config" "defaults.status="
! 			     "status" "-A" (file-relative-name file))
! 			  (process-file
! 			   vc-hg-program nil t nil
! 			   "--config" "alias.status=status"
! 			   "--config" "defaults.status="
! 			   "status" "-A" (file-relative-name file))))
                      ;; Some problem happened.  E.g. We can't find an `hg'
                      ;; executable.
                      (error nil)))))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

> 3. --color never
>
> ...because if you have a tty, and less/hg think it is an interactive enough
> call to invoke the pager and complain to a human, you might well get color
> displayed as well.
>
> 4. --pager never
>
> ...because you just don't want to page the output for non-interactive use.

It looks, like you need to enable the respective extensions in your .hgrc.
Therefore, they cannot be added in vg-hg.el by default, I fear.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #16 received at 18940-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Daniel Pittman <dpittman <at> fb.com>
Cc: 18940-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:36:58 +0100

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

> I'm a little bit reluctant to add this per default to
> `tramp-remote-process-environment'. There shouldn't be such default
> application specific settings.
>
> But the following patch might be sufficient (could you, please, test?):

I've committed the patch to the Emacs repository. Closing the bug.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #19 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: michael.albinus <at> gmx.de, dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:10:06 -0500

> I've committed the patch to the Emacs repository. Closing the bug.

I think it's an OK workaround for now, but we should implement a more
reliable solution.

I think "the right way" is for Tramp to propagate some env-vars in its
implementation of process-file (and start-file-process).  Of course,
it's not completely clear which envvars to propagate, but maybe we could
simply compare the current process-environment from
"global/initial" (either using default-toplevel-value or stashing the
initial value somewhere).


        Stefan

Message #22 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:37:35 +0100

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> I think "the right way" is for Tramp to propagate some env-vars in its
> implementation of process-file (and start-file-process).  Of course,
> it's not completely clear which envvars to propagate, but maybe we could
> simply compare the current process-environment from
> "global/initial" (either using default-toplevel-value or stashing the
> initial value somewhere).

There is a proposal in the TODO list (see tramp.el):

;; * Implement a general server-local-variable mechanism, as there are
;;   probably other variables that need different values for different
;;   servers too.  The user could then configure a variable (such as
;;   tramp-server-local-variable-alist) to define any such variables
;;   that they need to, which would then be let bound as appropriate
;;   in tramp functions.  (Jason Rumney)

process-environment would be one of the candidates.

>         Stefan

Best regards, Michael.

Message #25 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:49:17 -0500

> There is a proposal in the TODO list (see tramp.el):

> ;; * Implement a general server-local-variable mechanism, as there are
> ;;   probably other variables that need different values for different
> ;;   servers too.  The user could then configure a variable (such as
> ;;   tramp-server-local-variable-alist) to define any such variables
> ;;   that they need to, which would then be let bound as appropriate
> ;;   in tramp functions.  (Jason Rumney)

> process-environment would be one of the candidates.

It seems related, indeed, but in the case at hand, this
process-environment value should be specific to the process started with
process-file, not specific to a particular server.


        Stefan

Message #28 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh <at> octave.org>
To: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Enabling hg extensions
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:24:21 -0500

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:
> Daniel Pittman <dpittman <at> fb.com> writes:
> > 3. --color never
> >
> > ...because if you have a tty, and less/hg think it is an interactive
> > enough call to invoke the pager and complain to a human, you might
> > well get color displayed as well.
> >
> > 4. --pager never
> >
> > ...because you just don't want to page the output for
> > non-interactive use.

> It looks, like you need to enable the respective extensions in your .hgrc.
> Therefore, they cannot be added in vg-hg.el by default, I fear.

You can pass `--config extensions.color=` and `--config
extenions.pager=` as extra arguments to hg in order to enable these
particular extensions for a single invocation... but enabling them
just to disable their effects again seems rather silly. At any rate,
HGPLAIN=1 takes care of disabling both of these, unless I'm much
mistaken.

Still, I think it's important to spread the knowledge that hg
extensions can be temporarily enabled from the command-line. I feel
like Mercurial is much misunderstood.

Message #31 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh <at> octave.org>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18940: Enabling hg extensions
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:00:49 +0100

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh <at> octave.org> writes:

> At any rate, HGPLAIN=1 takes care of disabling both of these, unless
> I'm much mistaken.

That's what I did in vc-hg.el.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #34 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:55:23 +0100

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> It seems related, indeed, but in the case at hand, this
> process-environment value should be specific to the process started with
> process-file, not specific to a particular server.

We need a mechanism which shall allow kind of let-bind the process
environment variables when starting a new (remote) process. But there
shall be also server-specific defaults to be used.

I haven't started yet a design, how this could look like. Proposals welcome!

>         Stefan

Best regards, Michael.

PS: Maybe we could shift this dicussion to emacs-devel?

Message #37 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca, dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:29:51 +0200

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:55:23 +0100
> Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dpittman <at> fb.com
> 
> Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> > It seems related, indeed, but in the case at hand, this
> > process-environment value should be specific to the process started with
> > process-file, not specific to a particular server.
> 
> We need a mechanism which shall allow kind of let-bind the process
> environment variables when starting a new (remote) process. But there
> shall be also server-specific defaults to be used.
> 
> I haven't started yet a design, how this could look like. Proposals welcome!

Maybe I'm missing something, but what's wrong with let-binding
process-environment?

Message #40 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca, dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:38:28 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> We need a mechanism which shall allow kind of let-bind the process
>> environment variables when starting a new (remote) process. But there
>> shall be also server-specific defaults to be used.
>> 
>> I haven't started yet a design, how this could look like. Proposals welcome!
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but what's wrong with let-binding
> process-environment?

process-environment handles local variables. Variables on the remote
host might require different settings.

Usually, let-binding of process-environment keeps its value, and
prepends some settings. That's not what could be applied for remote hosts.

Tramp has tramp-remote-process-environment, but this is not a
comprehensive solution. It is evaluated when a new connection is
establishes. So it could be useful for asynchronous processes, but it
doesn't play sufficiently for synchronous processes.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #43 received at 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 18940 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>,
 dpittman <at> fb.com
Subject: Re: bug#18940: 24.4;
 vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:08:47 -0500

> Maybe I'm missing something, but what's wrong with let-binding
> process-environment?

Nothing wrong with it.  The problem is that Tramp ignores those
let-bindings because it fails to propagate this environment to its
remote sub-processed.

`tramp-sh-handle-process-file' really needs to compare
process-environment with (default-toplevel-value 'process-environment)
to infer the env-vars that have been added via let-binding and then
propagate those to the remote sub-process.


        Stefan

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