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Python can't use https with recent grafts

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Reported by: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>

Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 00:00:02 UTC

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From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:59:24 -0800
Most of Guix seems to be working just fine with the grafts support and
grafting of openssl.  However, unlike most grafts that will be done
probably, this one removes a feature, and that seems to be creating
problems in Python land.

  >>> from urllib.request import HTTPSHandler
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  ImportError: cannot import name 'HTTPSHandler'

Notably, virtualenv no longer works:

  $ guix environment --ad-hoc python-virtualenv
  substitute: updating list of substitutes from 'http://hydra.gnu.org'... 100.0%
  The following derivations will be built:
     /gnu/store/mcxrh4ba9pf4855kcbdnz654r0xxf86b-profile.drv
     /gnu/store/ii3ykjkidhz88ycx4p3gi2c7bhhn1vqz-ca-certificate-bundle.drv
     /gnu/store/h6fzjn70ki8vk3sxd0863vqjwkds1723-info-dir.drv

  $ virtualenv /tmp/try-virtualenv
  Using base prefix '/gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3'
  New python executable in /tmp/try-virtualenv/bin/python
  Installing setuptools, pip, wheel...
    Complete output from command /tmp/try-virtualenv/bin/python -c "import sys, pip; sys...d\"] + sys.argv[1:]))" setuptools pip wheel:
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv_support/pip-7.1.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pip/__init__.py", line 15, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv_support/pip-7.1.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pip/vcs/subversion.py", line 9, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv_support/pip-7.1.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pip/index.py", line 30, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv_support/pip-7.1.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pip/wheel.py", line 35, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv_support/pip-7.1.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pip/_vendor/distlib/scripts.py", line 14, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv_support/pip-7.1.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pip/_vendor/distlib/compat.py", line 66, in <module>
  ImportError: cannot import name 'HTTPSHandler'
  ----------------------------------------
  ...Installing setuptools, pip, wheel...done.
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/bin/.virtualenv-real", line 9, in <module>
      load_entry_point('virtualenv==13.1.2', 'console_scripts', 'virtualenv')()
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv.py", line 832, in main
      symlink=options.symlink)
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv.py", line 1004, in create_environment
      install_wheel(to_install, py_executable, search_dirs)
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv.py", line 969, in install_wheel
      'PIP_NO_INDEX': '1'
    File "/gnu/store/h38982xp00s1g95nzr6lws31w8q8njb3-python-virtualenv-13.1.2/lib/python3.4/site-packages/virtualenv-13.1.2-py3.4.egg/virtualenv.py", line 910, in call_subprocess
      % (cmd_desc, proc.returncode))
  OSError: Command /tmp/try-virtualenv/bin/python -c "import sys, pip; sys...d\"] + sys.argv[1:]))" setuptools pip wheel failed with error code 1

I'm not really sure this is a problem with the new grafts system.  It
might just be that a "fix" which tears parts of a library is going to
cause unexpected problems in some places for ABI incompatibility
reasons.

Not sure if we should just wait for the world-rebuild or what right
now...!




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From: Leo Famulari <leo <at> famulari.name>
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>
Cc: 22876 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22876: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:13:37 -0500
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 03:59:24PM -0800, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
> Most of Guix seems to be working just fine with the grafts support and
> grafting of openssl.  However, unlike most grafts that will be done
> probably, this one removes a feature, and that seems to be creating
> problems in Python land.
> 
>   >>> from urllib.request import HTTPSHandler
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
>     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>   ImportError: cannot import name 'HTTPSHandler'

I suspect this has to do with the error message Mark shared on #guix:
ImportError: /gnu/store/f0jzhl04iyaqv56yj92cd9bk57p3inqx-python-2.7.10/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/_ssl.so:
undefined symbol: SSLv2_method

[,,,]

> I'm not really sure this is a problem with the new grafts system.  It
> might just be that a "fix" which tears parts of a library is going to
> cause unexpected problems in some places for ABI incompatibility
> reasons.

Yeah, I'm not surprised other packages are breaking as a result of this.

Can you give me a method to reproduce this bug? I can try building
Python against the new OpenSSL directly and see if the problem persists.

> 
> Not sure if we should just wait for the world-rebuild or what right
> now...!

I guess that grafts of compatible updates can persist for a while but in
cases like this we should probably start rebuilding...




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From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>
To: 22876 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22876: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 16:13:41 -0800
Christopher Allan Webber writes:

> Most of Guix seems to be working just fine with the grafts support and
> grafting of openssl.  However, unlike most grafts that will be done
> probably, this one removes a feature, and that seems to be creating
> problems in Python land.
>
>   >>> from urllib.request import HTTPSHandler
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
>     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>   ImportError: cannot import name 'HTTPSHandler'

As expected, this is for the same reasons offlineimap seemed to have
problems:

  cwebber <at> oolong:~/devel/mediagoblin$ python3
  Python 3.4.3 (default, Jan  1 1970, 00:00:01) 
  [GCC 4.9.3] on linux
  Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
  >>> import ssl
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
    File "/gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/ssl.py", line 97, in <module>
      import _ssl             # if we can't import it, let the error propagate
  ImportError: /gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/lib-dynload/_ssl.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: SSLv2_method

This leads to my suspicion that it's not really grafting's fault here,
it's the *removal* of a piece of code, thus making things
abi-incompatible with the system we built.  Hopefully most grafting
situations won't require this.  I think that's right? :)

Unfortunately, I'd say that ssl and python isn't really optional!
Is it possible to graft on top of a graft?  Could we rebuild Python
based on the grafted openssl, and then graft things on top of the
grafted Python? :)




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From: Leo Famulari <leo <at> famulari.name>
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>
Cc: 22876 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22876: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:23:07 -0500
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 04:13:41PM -0800, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
> Christopher Allan Webber writes:
> 
> > Most of Guix seems to be working just fine with the grafts support and
> > grafting of openssl.  However, unlike most grafts that will be done
> > probably, this one removes a feature, and that seems to be creating
> > problems in Python land.
> >
> >   >>> from urllib.request import HTTPSHandler
> >   Traceback (most recent call last):
> >     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> >   ImportError: cannot import name 'HTTPSHandler'
> 
> As expected, this is for the same reasons offlineimap seemed to have
> problems:
> 
>   cwebber <at> oolong:~/devel/mediagoblin$ python3
>   Python 3.4.3 (default, Jan  1 1970, 00:00:01) 
>   [GCC 4.9.3] on linux
>   Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>   >>> import ssl
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
>     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>     File "/gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/ssl.py", line 97, in <module>
>       import _ssl             # if we can't import it, let the error propagate
>   ImportError: /gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/lib-dynload/_ssl.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: SSLv2_method

We need to get that SSLv2 out of there!

> 
> This leads to my suspicion that it's not really grafting's fault here,
> it's the *removal* of a piece of code, thus making things
> abi-incompatible with the system we built.  Hopefully most grafting
> situations won't require this.  I think that's right? :)

It seems like most security updates are ABI compatible, thankfully. This
was a special case since it removed an insecure protocol completely.

> 
> Unfortunately, I'd say that ssl and python isn't really optional!
> Is it possible to graft on top of a graft?  Could we rebuild Python
> based on the grafted openssl, and then graft things on top of the
> grafted Python? :)
> 
> 
> 




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From: Jookia <166291 <at> gmail.com>
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>
Cc: 22876 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22876: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:39:24 +1100
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 04:13:41PM -0800, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
> This leads to my suspicion that it's not really grafting's fault here,
> it's the *removal* of a piece of code, thus making things
> abi-incompatible with the system we built.  Hopefully most grafting
> situations won't require this.  I think that's right? :)

At least we know grafting works now. :)

> Unfortunately, I'd say that ssl and python isn't really optional!
> Is it possible to graft on top of a graft?  Could we rebuild Python
> based on the grafted openssl, and then graft things on top of the
> grafted Python? :)

I'm super curious now, are grafts composable? What if we need to graft multiple
packages for whatever reason (static linking comes to mind.)

Jookia.




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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw <at> netris.org>
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>
Cc: 22876-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22876: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 02:27:52 -0500
In brief, I believe this is fixed by commit 03a0e682a8 on master.
See below for details.

Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org> writes:

> Christopher Allan Webber writes:
>
>> Most of Guix seems to be working just fine with the grafts support and
>> grafting of openssl.  However, unlike most grafts that will be done
>> probably, this one removes a feature, and that seems to be creating
>> problems in Python land.
>>
>>   >>> from urllib.request import HTTPSHandler
>>   Traceback (most recent call last):
>>     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>   ImportError: cannot import name 'HTTPSHandler'
>
> As expected, this is for the same reasons offlineimap seemed to have
> problems:
>
>   cwebber <at> oolong:~/devel/mediagoblin$ python3
>   Python 3.4.3 (default, Jan  1 1970, 00:00:01) 
>   [GCC 4.9.3] on linux
>   Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>   >>> import ssl
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
>     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>     File "/gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/ssl.py", line 97, in <module>
>       import _ssl             # if we can't import it, let the error propagate
>   ImportError: /gnu/store/1spkp48cbbzg6ic5qkv3qpm3mvsgwkys-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/lib-dynload/_ssl.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: SSLv2_method
>
> This leads to my suspicion that it's not really grafting's fault here,
> it's the *removal* of a piece of code, thus making things
> abi-incompatible with the system we built.

That's exactly right, and it turns out that Guix is not the only one who
was bitten by this, e.g.:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313509
  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/openssl-1.0.2g-1.fc23#comment-395291
  https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7886940.html

I believe this issue is fixed by commit 03a0e682a8 on master.  In my
tests, I found that it fixes offlineimap, virtualenv, and importing
HTTPSHandler from urllib.request.

The fix is simply to add "enable-ssl2" to the arguments passed to the
OpenSSL ./config script.  I concluded that this is safe based on the
following excerpt from the CHANGES file:

  * Disable SSLv2 default build, default negotiation and weak ciphers.  SSLv2
    is by default disabled at build-time.  Builds that are not configured with
    "enable-ssl2" will not support SSLv2.  Even if "enable-ssl2" is used,
    users who want to negotiate SSLv2 via the version-flexible SSLv23_method()
    will need to explicitly call either of:

        SSL_CTX_clear_options(ctx, SSL_OP_NO_SSLv2);
    or
        SSL_clear_options(ssl, SSL_OP_NO_SSLv2);

    as appropriate.  Even if either of those is used, or the application
    explicitly uses the version-specific SSLv2_method() or its client and
    server variants, SSLv2 ciphers vulnerable to exhaustive search key
    recovery have been removed.  Specifically, the SSLv2 40-bit EXPORT
    ciphers, and SSLv2 56-bit DES are no longer available.
    (CVE-2016-0800)
    [Viktor Dukhovni]

Note that the "enable-ssl2" option is only needed when grafting, because
that's the only case where we need to preserve ABI compatibility.  I've
verified that 'offlineimap' works on the security-updates branch, where
openssl-1.0.2g has been updated in the normal way, without grafting and
without the "enable-ssl2" option.

> Hopefully most grafting situations won't require this.  I think that's
> right? :)

Yes.  When grafting, we must ensure ABI compatibility.  The mistake here
was that the ABI of the grafted OpenSSL was different than the one it
replaced.  Like Fedora and Gentoo, we expected upstream to ensure that
1.0.2g was ABI compatible with 1.0.2f.  I believe this was a reasonable
expectation.

> Is it possible to graft on top of a graft?

Good question, I don't know!  I guess we should test this, for the sake
of robustness, but on the other hand, I don't see a practical need for
this feature.  In general, we can simply update the replacement package,
which is what I've done in 03a0e682a8.

I'm closing this bug, but feel free to re-open it if you find that
problems remain.

    Thanks!
      Mark




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From: ludo <at> gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Jookia <166291 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber <at> dustycloud.org>, 22876 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22876: Python can't use https with recent grafts
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 10:22:30 +0100
Jookia <166291 <at> gmail.com> skribis:

> On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 04:13:41PM -0800, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
>> This leads to my suspicion that it's not really grafting's fault here,
>> it's the *removal* of a piece of code, thus making things
>> abi-incompatible with the system we built.  Hopefully most grafting
>> situations won't require this.  I think that's right? :)
>
> At least we know grafting works now. :)

Yay, we can experience ABI breaks like a real distro now!  :-)

>> Unfortunately, I'd say that ssl and python isn't really optional!
>> Is it possible to graft on top of a graft?  Could we rebuild Python
>> based on the grafted openssl, and then graft things on top of the
>> grafted Python? :)
>
> I'm super curious now, are grafts composable? What if we need to graft multiple
> packages for whatever reason (static linking comes to mind.)

It’s supposed to Just Work!  That is, any number of packages can have a
‘replacement’ field, and the resulting grafts will be applied as needed.

Ludo’.




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