GNU bug report logs - #36260
27.0.50; isearchb should be reimplemented without iswitchb

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50; isearchb should be reimplemented without iswitchb
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:17:05 +0200

iswitchb is an obsolete package, but isearchb is implemented on top of
it.  It should be possible to reimplement it on top of any of the
un-obsoleted completion packages (like ido), but it's a complete
reimplementation:

41 matches in 36 lines for "iswitchb" in buffer: isearchb.el
      1:;;; isearchb --- a marriage between iswitchb and isearch
     30:;; iswitchb!  It is not intended to replace it, however, as it works
     37:;; employed by iswitchb).  To use it this way, add to your .emacs:
     59:;; iswitchb, using the prefix you've typed so far.  This is handy when
     75:;;   killing iswitchb.el and then trying to switch back is broken
     80:(require 'iswitchb)                     ;FIXME: Don't rely on iswitchb!
     84:  :group 'iswitchb)
    116:(defun isearchb-iswitchb ()
    117:  "isearchb's custom version of the `iswitchb' command.
    119:`iswitchb-read-buffer'."
    122:	 (iswitchb-method 'samewindow)
    123:	 (buf (iswitchb-read-buffer prompt nil nil nil iswitchb-text t)))
    124:    (if (eq iswitchb-exit 'findfile)
    129:	    (iswitchb-visit-buffer buf)
    131:	  (iswitchb-possible-new-buffer buf))))))
    137:    (setq iswitchb-text nil))
    138:  (unless iswitchb-text
    139:    (setq iswitchb-text "")
    140:    (iswitchb-make-buflist nil))
    142:      (setq iswitchb-rescan t
    143:	    iswitchb-text (concat iswitchb-text
    146:  (iswitchb-set-matches)
    147:  (let* ((match (car iswitchb-matches))
    152:	  (isearchb-iswitchb))
    155:	  (message "isearchb: %s%s" iswitchb-text
    156:		   (iswitchb-completions iswitchb-text))
    157:	(if (= 1 (length iswitchb-matches))
    158:	    (message "isearchb: %s (only match)" iswitchb-text)
    159:	  (message "isearchb: %s" iswitchb-text))))))
    178:	(setq iswitchb-text
    179:	      (substring iswitchb-text 0 (1- (length iswitchb-text))))
    180:	(if (= 0 (length iswitchb-text))
    185:	(setq this-command 'isearchb-iswitchb))
    187:	(iswitchb-next-match)
    191:	(iswitchb-prev-match)
    222:    (setq iswitchb-text nil



In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11)
 of 2019-06-16 built on stories
Repository revision: a1508e8d2db0003fafb53ae51ed1104ba957db6b
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)


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Message #8 received at 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36260: 27.0.50;
 isearchb should be reimplemented without iswitchb
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:56:04 -0400

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  > iswitchb is an obsolete package, but isearchb is implemented on top of
  > it.  It should be possible to reimplement it on top of any of the
  > un-obsoleted completion packages (like ido), but it's a complete
  > reimplementation:

We could declare isearchb obsolete.
We could declare iswitchb not obsolete.

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Message #11 received at 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36260: 27.0.50;
 isearchb should be reimplemented without iswitchb
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:52:41 +0200

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

>   > iswitchb is an obsolete package, but isearchb is implemented on top of
>   > it.  It should be possible to reimplement it on top of any of the
>   > un-obsoleted completion packages (like ido), but it's a complete
>   > reimplementation:
>
> We could declare isearchb obsolete.
> We could declare iswitchb not obsolete.

Yup; those are also solutions, but apparently the maintainers think that
iswitchb isn't very useful anymore, but people still use isearchb,
apparently.

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Message #14 received at 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36260: 27.0.50;
 isearchb should be reimplemented without iswitchb
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 22:52:10 -0400

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  > Yup; those are also solutions, but apparently the maintainers think that
  > iswitchb isn't very useful anymore, but people still use isearchb,
  > apparently.

It seems that iswitchb is still useful for one thing: running isearchb.
Thus, in fact it is not obsolete.

I suggest de-obsoleting iswitchb, unless and until someone 
fixes isearchb not to use it any more.

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Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #17 received at 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 36260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36260: 27.0.50;
 isearchb should be reimplemented without iswitchb
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 19:20:26 +0000

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

>   > Yup; those are also solutions, but apparently the maintainers think that
>   > iswitchb isn't very useful anymore, but people still use isearchb,
>   > apparently.
>
> It seems that iswitchb is still useful for one thing: running isearchb.
> Thus, in fact it is not obsolete.
>
> I suggest de-obsoleting iswitchb, unless and until someone
> fixes isearchb not to use it any more.

We can just leave iswitchb as obsolete until isearchb is re-implemented
to not need it.  Even if we have to wait for a very long time for that
to happen, it costs us little, and will discourage anyone from building
new functionality on top of iswitchb.

IOW, there is no need to delete it "now" just because we said that we
will delete it "at some point".  We can just postpone its deletion.
That's what we already do with fastlock.el and lazylock.el.

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