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24.3; replace-string function does not respect current region

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From: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; replace-string function does not respect current region
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:55:32 +0200

emacs started with -Q. Documentation of function (replace-string)
says:

In Transient Mark mode, if the mark is active, operate on the contents
of the region.  Otherwise, operate from point to the end of the buffer.

However I can't make it work on a region and it always replaces
from the point up to the end of buffer. For example this call:

(replace-string "a" "x")

If I execute it through M-x, it works correctly, working only on the region.


In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
 of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --cflags
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2'

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: PLK
  locale-coding-system: cp1250
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<up> <up> <up> <up> <S-down> M-: ( r e p l a c e -
s t r i n g SPC " i " SPC " * " ) <return> M-x r e
p o r <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Mark set [2 times]
Replaced 8 occurrences
nil

Load-path shadows:
None found.

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Message #8 received at 15275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan <at> gmail.com>
To: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
Cc: 15275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15275: 24.3;
 replace-string function does not respect current region
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:19:19 +0530

Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl> writes:

> emacs started with -Q. Documentation of function (replace-string)
> says:
>
> In Transient Mark mode, if the mark is active, operate on the contents
> of the region.  Otherwise, operate from point to the end of the buffer.
>
> However I can't make it work on a region and it always replaces
> from the point up to the end of buffer. For example this call:
>
> (replace-string "a" "x")
>
> If I execute it through M-x, it works correctly, working only on the
> region.

1. Mark a region
2. Replace string

      M-x replace-string RET a RET x RET

3. Do 

     M-x list-command-histort RET

4. You will find something like this.

    (replace-string "a" "x" nil
                    (if (and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
                        (region-beginning))
                    (if (and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
                        (region-end)))

This will probably provide some clue on what you are looking for.
    
>
>
> In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
>  of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN
> Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
> Configured using:
>  `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --cflags
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include
>  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2'
>
> Important settings:
>   value of $LANG: PLK
>   locale-coding-system: cp1250
>   default enable-multibyte-characters: t
>
> Major mode: Lisp Interaction
>
> Minor modes in effect:
>   tooltip-mode: t
>   mouse-wheel-mode: t
>   tool-bar-mode: t
>   menu-bar-mode: t
>   file-name-shadow-mode: t
>   global-font-lock-mode: t
>   font-lock-mode: t
>   blink-cursor-mode: t
>   auto-composition-mode: t
>   auto-encryption-mode: t
>   auto-compression-mode: t
>   line-number-mode: t
>   transient-mark-mode: t
>
> Recent input:
> <up> <up> <up> <up> <S-down> M-: ( r e p l a c e -
> s t r i n g SPC " i " SPC " * " ) <return> M-x r e
> p o r <tab> <return>
>
> Recent messages:
> For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
> Mark set [2 times]
> Replaced 8 occurrences
> nil
>
> Load-path shadows:
> None found.
>
> Features:
> (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml
> easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
> mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
> mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks
> lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp w32-common-fns disp-table w32-win
> w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list
> newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select
> scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham
> georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
> korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic
> indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple
> abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
> text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule
> custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process
> w32 multi-tty emacs)

Message #11 received at 15275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
Cc: 15275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15275: 24.3;
 replace-string function does not respect current region
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:40:02 -0400

In non-interactive use, you need to specify START and END explicitly.
This is fairly common for Emacs commands.
But note that the doc-string says: "This function is usually the wrong
thing to use in a Lisp program."

Message #14 received at 15275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek <at> poczta.onet.pl>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 15275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15275: 24.3; replace-string function does not respect current
 region
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 23:14:13 +0200

W dniu 09/05/2013 06:40 PM, Glenn Morris pisze:
> In non-interactive use, you need to specify START and END explicitly.
> This is fairly common for Emacs commands.
> But note that the doc-string says: "This function is usually the wrong
> thing to use in a Lisp program."
>

I was not going to use it from Lisp program. I just find it convenient 
to have the whole replacement command on one line. If the function 
worked the way it is described in docs, it would be perfect.

But I am emacs newbie, you decide. A newbie just reads the docs and 
hopes the program works according to docs.

Cheers
Jarek

Message #19 received at 15275-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 15275-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15275: 24.3;
 replace-string function does not respect current region
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:39:24 -0400

Version: 24.4

Clarified the doc.

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