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24.3.50; scrolling is very long to happen or never happen

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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3.50; scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:26:19 +0100

Hi all,

1) Go to scratch buffer

2) `switch-to-buffer-other-window' in a consequent buffer

3) eval this code:

(with-selected-window (next-window) (scroll-up 12))


This return nil as expected but the next window to the one handling
"*scratch*" doesn't move, but wait a certain time (up to one minute or
more sometimes) and the window finish to scroll.

Sometimes it doesn't scroll at all but maybe I don't wait enough. 




In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of 2013-12-03 on dell-14z
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000
System Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS

Configured using:
 `configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-toolkit-scroll-bars
 --without-gconf --without-gsettings'

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  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
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Recent input:
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
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<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> C-x C-e C-x C-b C-c o C-< <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
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<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
C-M-SPC M-w C-x 1 C-M-SPC M-w C-x C-b C-c o C-< C-e 
C-x C-e C-x o C-< C-< C-< <left> <left> <backspace> 
1 2 <right> <right> <right> <up> C-e C-x C-e C-< C-< 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
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C-x C-e C-x C-e <left> <left> <left> <left> C-x 1 <left> 
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<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> C-M-SPC M-w 
M-x r e p o r t <return>

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Message #8 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:47:57 +0200

> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:26:19 +0100
> 
> 1) Go to scratch buffer
> 
> 2) `switch-to-buffer-other-window' in a consequent buffer

What do you mean by "consequent buffer"?  Is this in "emacs -Q" or in
a session that has other buffers besides *scratch* and *Messages*?

Message #11 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:48:18 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:26:19 +0100
>> 
>> 1) Go to scratch buffer
>> 
>> 2) `switch-to-buffer-other-window' in a consequent buffer
>
> What do you mean by "consequent buffer"?

Use a buffer that is longer enough to scroll (i.e in emacs -Q *Messages*
is not long enough to be scrolled)

> Is this in "emacs -Q" or in a session that has other buffers besides
> *scratch* and *Messages*?

In both.

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Message #14 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:58:39 +0100

Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:26:19 +0100
>>> 
>>> 1) Go to scratch buffer
>>> 
>>> 2) `switch-to-buffer-other-window' in a consequent buffer
>>
>> What do you mean by "consequent buffer"?
>
> Use a buffer that is longer enough to scroll (i.e in emacs -Q *Messages*
> is not long enough to be scrolled)
>
>> Is this in "emacs -Q" or in a session that has other buffers besides
>> *scratch* and *Messages*?
>
> In both.

To make this happen faster, you can repeat the recipe I sent, then when
you see nothing happen, hit `C-x o', the window is immediately scrolled.

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Message #17 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:06:16 +0200

> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:58:39 +0100
> 
> Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >>> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
> >>> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:26:19 +0100
> >>> 
> >>> 1) Go to scratch buffer
> >>> 
> >>> 2) `switch-to-buffer-other-window' in a consequent buffer
> >>
> >> What do you mean by "consequent buffer"?
> >
> > Use a buffer that is longer enough to scroll (i.e in emacs -Q *Messages*
> > is not long enough to be scrolled)
> >
> >> Is this in "emacs -Q" or in a session that has other buffers besides
> >> *scratch* and *Messages*?
> >
> > In both.
> 
> To make this happen faster, you can repeat the recipe I sent, then when
> you see nothing happen, hit `C-x o', the window is immediately scrolled.

If I evaluate the expression via "M-:", I don't see any problem, the
other buffer is scrolled immediately.

I still am not sure I did what you meant me to do (rant: why is it
that some Emacs developers don't bother to post detailed enough
recipes that spell everything out and leave no t's uncrossed?).
Here's what I did:

  emacs -Q
  C-x C-f src/xdisp.c RET
  C-x 4 b *scratch* RET
  M-: (with-selected-window (next-window) (scroll-up 12)) RET

This scrolls immediately.

Perhaps you meant to type the expression in *scratch* and evaluate it
with C-j or C-x C-e?  If so, I can indeed confirm that the scroll
doesn't happen in that case.  I'm guessing this is due to the latest
Stefan's changes, because in an older build I don't see this.

Message #20 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:34:00 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Perhaps you meant to type the expression in *scratch* and evaluate it
> with C-j or C-x C-e?

Yes. (`C-x C-e')

> If so, I can indeed confirm that the scroll doesn't happen in that
> case.  I'm guessing this is due to the latest Stefan's changes,
> because in an older build I don't see this.

Indeed.

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Message #23 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:07:34 +0100

Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Perhaps you meant to type the expression in *scratch* and evaluate it
>> with C-j or C-x C-e?
>
> Yes. (`C-x C-e')
>
>> If so, I can indeed confirm that the scroll doesn't happen in that
>> case.  I'm guessing this is due to the latest Stefan's changes,
>> because in an older build I don't see this.
>
> Indeed.

BTW I found this bug because it affect helm, it is no more possible to
scroll other window while in a helm session.

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Message #26 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 12:14:13 -0500

> (with-selected-window (next-window) (scroll-up 12))

> This return nil as expected but the next window to the one handling
> "*scratch*" doesn't move, but wait a certain time (up to one minute or
> more sometimes) and the window finish to scroll.

I think I know what's going on.  It's probably due to my patch that adds
`redisplay' fields everywhere, and here it ends up not marking the
`next-window' for redisplay, for some reason.

Thanks for the good recipe, the patch should follow later today,


        Stefan

Message #29 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:47:39 -0500

> 3) eval this code:
> (with-selected-window (next-window) (scroll-up 12))
> This return nil as expected but the next window to the one handling
> "*scratch*" doesn't move, but wait a certain time (up to one minute or
> more sometimes) and the window finish to scroll.

Should be fixed now, thank to the patch below,


        Stefan


--- src/window.c	2013-12-03 21:37:41 +0000
+++ src/window.c	2013-12-04 18:23:14 +0000
@@ -4732,6 +4731,8 @@
   immediate_quit = 1;
   n = clip_to_bounds (INT_MIN, n, INT_MAX);
 
+  wset_redisplay (XWINDOW (window));
+
   /* If we must, use the pixel-based version which is much slower than
      the line-based one but can handle varying line heights.  */
   if (FRAME_WINDOW_P (XFRAME (XWINDOW (window)->frame)))

Message #32 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:09:38 +0100

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Should be fixed now, thank to the patch below,

Thanks Stefan, works great now.

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Message #35 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:14:13 +0100

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> 3) eval this code:
>> (with-selected-window (next-window) (scroll-up 12))
>> This return nil as expected but the next window to the one handling
>> "*scratch*" doesn't move, but wait a certain time (up to one minute or
>> more sometimes) and the window finish to scroll.
>
> Should be fixed now, thank to the patch below,

Hoops! It is working fine in helm now but now from gnus-summary hitting
RET don't scroll anymore (same symptoms).

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Message #38 received at 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 16034 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16034: 24.3.50;
 scrolling is very long to happen or never happen
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:09:23 -0500

> Hoops! It is working fine in helm now but now from gnus-summary hitting
> RET don't scroll anymore (same symptoms).

Ha!  Indeed!  Thanks again, should be fixed as well, now.  On to the
next problem,


        Stefan

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