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I've found some strange issue with the sentence movement commands in
buffers that have invisible and intangible overlays.  Here's a recipe:

1. emacs -Q
2. Eval this function

(defun hide-every-2nd-line ()
  (interactive)
  (while t
    (next-line 2)
    (let ((ol (make-overlay (line-beginning-position)
			    (line-end-position))))
      (overlay-put ol 'invisible t)
      (overlay-put ol 'intangible t))))

3. C-h t (use the tutorial as test buffer)
4. M-x hide-every-2nd-line RET

So now we have the TUTORIAL buffer where every second line is invisible
and intangible and point is at `point-max'.  In this situation, there
are two problems with the M-a and M-e.

  1. In some situations, M-a/M-e don't move at all.  (I think, that's
     the case, if the sentence start/end is inside a hidden line, but
     I'm not too sure.)

     For example, when point is at point-max, I can hit M-a once so that
     point is at the beginning of the invisible line below the "Please
     read the file COPYING...".  Hitting M-a again has no effect
     anymore.

     (BTW: This "M-a/M-e don't move issue" is also present in the bug
     messages buffer.)

  2. At some positions in that file, invoking M-a/M-e will make emacs
     hang.  Try hitting M-e repeatedly beginning at the start of the
     buffer.  After the second M-e, point is after "See end for copying
     conditions.".  Hitting it again makes emacs hang.

Basically, that's not a too big issue in interactive use where you can
hit C-g, but it caused my emacs to freeze completely when I ran it from
a post-command-hook function which moves an overlay overlay using
(save-excursion (backward-sentence 1)) as start and (save-excursion
(forward-sentence 1)) as end position.

Bye,
Tassilo


In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.2)
 of 2011-12-03 on thinkpad
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11102000
configured using `configure  '--prefix=3D/usr' '--build=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-g=
nu' '--host=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir=
=3D/usr/share/info' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--local=
statedir=3D/var/lib' '--libdir=3D/usr/lib64' '--disable-dependency-tracking=
' '--program-suffix=3D-emacs-24' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info/emacs-24' '--=
with-crt-dir=3D/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/../../../../lib64' '-=
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hout-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--with-gpm' '--with-dbus' '--with-gnu=
tls' '--without-selinux' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-gconf' '--wit=
h-gsettings' '--with-xml2' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--without-wide-=
int' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '-=
-with-xpm' '--with-imagemagick' '--with-xft' '--with-libotf' '--with-m17n-f=
lt' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3' 'EBZR_BRANCH=3Dtrunk' 'EBZR_REVNO=3D106589' '=
build_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'CC=
=3D/usr/bin/clang' 'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dcore2 -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--a=
s-needed''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8
  value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8
  value of $LANG: en_US.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Message

Minor modes in effect:
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  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
  TeX-source-correlate-mode: t
  mml-mode: t
  yas/global-mode: t
  yas/minor-mode: t
  recentf-mode: t
  anything-dired-mode: Enable anything completion in Dired functions.
Bindings affected are C, R, S, H.
This is deprecated for Emacs24+ users, use `ac-mode' instead.
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  global-subword-mode: t
  subword-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
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  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
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<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <left> SPC <M-right> <backspace> i n g SPC=20
<M-left> <M-left> <M-left> <M-left> <M-right> <backspace>=20
<backspace> d r <backspace> M-q <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> C-k a n SPC=20
o v e r l y <backspace> a f <backspace> y M-q <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
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<left> <left> <left> <right> <right> <right> <right>=20
<right> <right> <right> <M-backspace> <M-backspace>=20
<M-backspace> <M-backspace> <M-backspace> <backspace>=20
<backspace> SPC w h i c h <M-right> <backspace> <backspace>=20
<backspace> e s M-q <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up>=20
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<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>=20
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>=20
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<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>=20
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>=20
<down> <down> <down> <down> M-w M-x r e p o <tab> r=20
<tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Using try-complete-lisp-symbol
Type M-x delete-other-windows to delete the help window.
Using try-complete-lisp-symbol [2 times]
Mark set [2 times]
Auto-saving...done
Mark set
Quit
Auto-saving...done
Mark set
Making completion list...

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>       (overlay-put ol 'invisible t)
>       (overlay-put ol 'intangible t))))

While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work better,
the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged, specifically because
it's pretty much impossible to make all other commands work "right" in
the presence of intangible properties.


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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

>>       (overlay-put ol 'invisible t)
>>       (overlay-put ol 'intangible t))))
>
> While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work
> better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged,

Then it would be good if the docs stated that.

> specifically because it's pretty much impossible to make all other
> commands work "right" in the presence of intangible properties.

Yes, probably.  I've experimented a bit more, and it gets even worse
with line-editing commands like kill-line, especially if the intangible
overlay starts or ends in the middle of a line...

But it seems that there's no sense in making an invisible overlay
intangible, anyway, at least I can't find any difference in behavior
between invisible and invisible + intangible (except that the problem
doesn't appear).

The mode that creates those overlays (iedit-mode) seems to do that in
order to protect the invisible regions, but you can still accidentally
kill an intangible & invisible region as a whole.  `read-only' would be
the right property to use here, but it seems it's not supported for
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>>> (overlay-put ol 'invisible t)
>>> (overlay-put ol 'intangible t))))
>> While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work
>> better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged,
> Then it would be good if the docs stated that.

I've just changed lispref/text.texi to warn against `intangible' properties.

> The mode that creates those overlays (iedit-mode) seems to do that in

Please report this problem to the author (he can probably just remove
the code that puts the `intangible' without changing anything else).
While you're add it, mention that he should use define-minor-mode.


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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

>>>> (overlay-put ol 'invisible t)
>>>> (overlay-put ol 'intangible t))))
>>> While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work
>>> better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged,
>> Then it would be good if the docs stated that.
>
> I've just changed lispref/text.texi to warn against `intangible' properties.
>
>> The mode that creates those overlays (iedit-mode) seems to do that in
>
> Please report this problem to the author (he can probably just remove
> the code that puts the `intangible' without changing anything else).
> While you're add it, mention that he should use define-minor-mode.

I'll do so.

Bye,
Tassilo




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Tassilo Horn <tassilo@HIDDEN> writes:

> `read-only' would be the right property to use here, but it seems it's
> not supported for overlays...

http://debbugs.gnu.org/6922





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