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ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby

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From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:24:39 +0200

Package: emacs
Version: 23.3+1-4
Severity: wishlist

ruby.el reads:

    ...
    ;; Keywords: languages ruby
    ;; Version: 1.0

However word "ruby" is not in list returned by M-x finder-list-keywords.
Perhaps finder-list-keywords or ruby.el should be updated.

Jari

-- System Information
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Architecture: amd64
Kernel: Linux picasso 3.0.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 27 16:21:11 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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-- Versions of packages `emacs depends on'.
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Message #8 received at 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Cc: 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10280: ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:35:15 +0200

> ruby.el reads:
>
>     ...
>     ;; Keywords: languages ruby
>     ;; Version: 1.0
>
> However word "ruby" is not in list returned by M-x finder-list-keywords.
> Perhaps finder-list-keywords or ruby.el should be updated.

Free-form user-defined keywords are allowed since the list of keywords is
open-ended.  So this is rather a shortcoming of `finder-list-keywords'
that doesn't yet list all keywords beyond a few of "official" ones.

Message #11 received at 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Subject: Re: bug#10280: ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 02:32:19 +0200

Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> writes:

>> ruby.el reads:
>>
>>     ...
>>     ;; Keywords: languages ruby
>>     ;; Version: 1.0
>>
>> However word "ruby" is not in list returned by M-x finder-list-keywords.
>> Perhaps finder-list-keywords or ruby.el should be updated.
>
> Free-form user-defined keywords are allowed since the list of keywords is
> open-ended.  So this is rather a shortcoming of `finder-list-keywords'
> that doesn't yet list all keywords beyond a few of "official" ones.

Do we really want to change finder-list-keywords to list all keywords?
(For some definition of "all".)

Wouldn't that make the menu much harder to navigate?

Thanks,
Stefan Kangas

Message #14 received at 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Subject: RE: bug#10280: ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 18:03:19 -0700 (PDT)

> >>     ;; Keywords: languages ruby
> >>
> >> However word "ruby" is not in list returned by M-x finder-list-
> >> keywords. Perhaps finder-list-keywords or ruby.el should be updated.
> >
> > Free-form user-defined keywords are allowed since the list of
> > keywords is open-ended.  So this is rather a shortcoming of
> > `finder-list-keywords'

No, it's not a shortcoming.  It's open-ended by design,
AFAIK, and that's good.

> > that doesn't yet list all keywords beyond a few of "official" ones.

And it shouldn't, IMO.  list `finder-known-keywords'
should remain something defined by Emacs.

On the other hand, `finder.el' could be enhanced
to provide such a feature as an _option_.  It
could have a user option whose value is a list
of additional keywords to recognize.

That's the approach we take with Dired guessing
shell-command associations.  We have a non-option
variable, `dired-guess-shell-alist-default', which
is defines the default associations, and we have
a user option, `dired-guess-shell-alist-user',
which is prepended to the default list.

That would let users control the behavior of
`finder-list-keywords'.  After all, that's a
command - it's for users.

> Do we really want to change finder-list-keywords to list all keywords?
> (For some definition of "all".)

No, we don't; that is, I don't.

Field `Keywords' is _not_ just for `finder.el'.
It's for anything a library writer (or user) wants
it to be for.

(I believe it predates `finder.el', but I'm not sure
of that.)

> Wouldn't that make the menu much harder to navigate?

Yes.  If we want to let users choose that, and choose
how much harder (which and how many extra keywords),
that's fine, however.

Message #17 received at 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 10280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Subject: Re: bug#10280: ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 00:27:45 +0300

>>>     ;; Keywords: languages ruby
>>>     ;; Version: 1.0
>>>
>>> However word "ruby" is not in list returned by M-x finder-list-keywords.
>>> Perhaps finder-list-keywords or ruby.el should be updated.
>>
>> Free-form user-defined keywords are allowed since the list of keywords is
>> open-ended.  So this is rather a shortcoming of `finder-list-keywords'
>> that doesn't yet list all keywords beyond a few of "official" ones.
>
> Do we really want to change finder-list-keywords to list all keywords?
> (For some definition of "all".)
>
> Wouldn't that make the menu much harder to navigate?

It's possible now to visit (info "(*Finder*) Keyword unknown")
to see all unsupported keywords.  Among other keywords
there is also the "ruby" keyword linking to ruby-mode.
So it seems you could close this report.

Message #22 received at 10280-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: 10280-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Subject: Re: bug#10280: ruby-mode.el - Unknown finder.el keyword: ruby
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 09:02:07 +0200

Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> writes:

> It's possible now to visit (info "(*Finder*) Keyword unknown")
> to see all unsupported keywords.  Among other keywords
> there is also the "ruby" keyword linking to ruby-mode.
> So it seems you could close this report.

Thanks for that; closing.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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