Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2019 06:33:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 28 02:33:50 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48932 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iE6Ib-0003BE-KO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:33:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1iE6IZ-0003Az-3z for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:33:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1iE6IS-0005nZ-Q0; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:33:37 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1739 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1iE6IL-0007XT-5M; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:33:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:33:22 +0300 Message-Id: <83h84xhqvh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <20190927213937.GA75649@HIDDEN> (message from Alan Third on Fri, 27 Sep 2019 22:39:37 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition References: <CADwFkm=xwDXuxpoEM7PTrhXZXAuC2r1_jLUQXwVxb4PaR0M_UA@HIDDEN> <20190922115451.GA52669@HIDDEN> <bb097bac1af6e23b6d03fc5df58be3aa.squirrel@HIDDEN> <20190923184000.GC53480@HIDDEN> <834l12p6w5.fsf@HIDDEN> <20190927213937.GA75649@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: joostkremers@HIDDEN, jwiegley@HIDDEN, stefan@HIDDEN, 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mituharu@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 22:39:37 +0100 > From: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> > Cc: mituharu@HIDDEN, stefan@HIDDEN, jwiegley@HIDDEN, > joostkremers@HIDDEN, 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 09:04:10AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > What are the problems that prevent getting HarfBuzz to work in the > > GNUstep port? I think we want all the major supported platforms to be > > able to build with HarfBuzz, since many modern features related to > > sophisticated text shaping and display to be developed for Emacs will > > be based on HarfBuzz facilities. > > I’m not aware of any fundamental problems, I think someone just needs > to write the code. Most of the code is already in hbfont.c, you just need the platform-specific glue, of which there are several examples in the repository. I hope someone will write this code, so that we could have HarfBuzz supported on all major platforms. Thanks.
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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:72:7ec:8b54:d28f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c6sm8348449wrb.60.2019.09.22.04.54.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:54:51 +0100 From: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition Message-ID: <20190922115451.GA52669@HIDDEN> References: <CADwFkm=xwDXuxpoEM7PTrhXZXAuC2r1_jLUQXwVxb4PaR0M_UA@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=xwDXuxpoEM7PTrhXZXAuC2r1_jLUQXwVxb4PaR0M_UA@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.0 (2019-05-25) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN>, John Wiegley <jwiegley@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:45:20AM +0200, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:17:21AM -0700, John Wiegley wrote: > >> >>>>> "AT" == Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > >> > >> AT> Hi, does anyone know if this bug was resolved? I assume if it worked in > >> AT> the Mac port it will now work in the NS port? > >> > >> Why can that assumption be made now? > > > > In the seven or eight years since this bug report was made, we > > switched over to the mac port font backend. > > Since that was written, harfbuzz was enabled by default. And wouldn't > that library have good support for this anyhow? > > > It might still be an issue on GNUstep, though. I think it still uses > > nsfont.m. > > I'm not a GNUstep user so I can't easily test this. > > But would the recent harfbuzz support (enabled by default on GNUstep > too, I assume) fix this? Do you know, Eli? As I understand it Harfbuzz is not supported on the NS port at all. I know that Yamamoto Mitsuharu wrote a proof of concept, but I don’t believe it was ever finished. -- Alan Third
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Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2012 00:23:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 03 20:23:14 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SFE0H-0008Tn-9H for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:23:14 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:50506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <mituharu@HIDDEN>) id 1SFE0D-0008Tc-UM for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:23:12 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44554C0569; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:22:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:22:42 +0900 Message-ID: <wliphge46l.wl%mituharu@HIDDEN> From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@HIDDEN> To: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition In-Reply-To: <20120402074402.GA29206@HIDDEN> References: <20120323154400.GA47762@HIDDEN> <wlpqbqr43r.wl%mituharu@HIDDEN> <20120402074402.GA29206@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 09:44:03 +0200, Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> said: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:21:28PM +0900, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: >> The NS port doesn't support text shaping. The Mac port, which used to >> support text shaping only for left-to-right, now also supports for >> right-to-left: >> >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-04/msg00018.html >> >> I'd appreciate it if you could accept its experimental/hackers-only >> status and try it, because its right-to-left text shaping code is very >> new and not fully tested. > I'd be happy to try it, but when I open the Emacs.app included in the mac/ > folder, I get the following error: > joost@pc201:~/Desktop/emacs-24.0.95-mac-2.91/mac $ open Emacs.app/ > LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -10810 for the file /Users/joost/Desktop/emacs-24.0.95-mac-2.91/mac/Emacs.app. > (Same thing happens if I move Emacs.app to /Applications.) I've never heard of this. Please send me the compile log personally. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@HIDDEN
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Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2012 09:12:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 03 05:12:38 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37623 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SEzn4-0002kt-4M for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 05:12:38 -0400 Received: from fmailer.gwdg.de ([134.76.11.16]:45805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <joostkremers@HIDDEN>) id 1SEzn1-0002kl-L0 for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 05:12:36 -0400 Received: from pc201.uni-germanistik.gwdg.de ([134.76.139.33]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <joostkremers@HIDDEN>) id 1SEzmX-00073d-VZ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:12:06 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:12:06 +0200 From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> To: Kenichi Handa <handa@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition Message-ID: <20120403091206.GA45855@HIDDEN> References: <E1SCamk-0006mV-UD@HIDDEN> <tl71uo5czxi.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <tl71uo5czxi.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Editor: Emacs of course! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Authenticated: Id:jkremer X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 11:27:37AM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > It seems that you don't have libtool. Well, XCode (which I have installed) does have a program called libtool, but it's not GNU libtool. > By the way, as someone else wrote, the current OS X port > code doesn't support text shaping, which means, even if you > successfully installed m17n-lib and libotf, Emacs can't use > it. Ah ok... Thanks for pointing that out. I won't make any further attempts, then. -- Dr. Joost Kremers Georg-August-Universität Seminar für Deutsche Philologie Käte-Hamburger-Weg 3 D-37073 Göttingen
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Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2012 02:37:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 02 22:37:14 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37253 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SEtcP-0001z4-W5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:37:14 -0400 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:37541) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <handa@HIDDEN>) id 1SEtcN-0001yv-Iw for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:37:13 -0400 Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id q332ZZjY023266; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:36:50 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@HIDDEN) Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id q332Rd7W014876; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:27:39 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@HIDDEN) Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id q332RbXT029451; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 11:27:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@HIDDEN) From: Kenichi Handa <handa@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition In-Reply-To: <E1SCamk-0006mV-UD@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:06:22 -0400) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:27:37 +0900 Message-ID: <tl71uo5czxi.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: joostkremers@HIDDEN, 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) In article <E1SCamk-0006mV-UD@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > I've tried, but haven't been successful... m17n-db can be installed, though > > it requires downloading the charmaps and installing GNU/gettext because the > > program msgfmt isn't part of OS X. (It's part of GNU/gettext but not of the > > gettext that comes with OS X, it seems.) > > > > Then, however, configuring m17n-lib failed with the following message: > > > > autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I m4 > > autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing > > autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Libtool > > autoreconf: running: /usr/local/Cellar/autoconf/2.68/bin/autoconf --force > > configure.ac:52: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL > > If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. > > See the Autoconf documentation. > > autoreconf: /usr/local/Cellar/autoconf/2.68/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1 > > > > Since I have no idea what this is about, I stopped my attempts at > > installation. > Perhaps Handa-san (CC'ed) could help you out. It seems that you don't have libtool. By the way, as someone else wrote, the current OS X port code doesn't support text shaping, which means, even if you successfully installed m17n-lib and libotf, Emacs can't use it. --- Kenichi Handa handa@HIDDEN
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Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2012 07:44:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 02 03:44:02 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SEbvm-0007Xs-GV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 03:44:02 -0400 Received: from fmailer.gwdg.de ([134.76.11.16]:36406) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <joostkremers@HIDDEN>) id 1SEbvk-0007XL-2v for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 03:44:00 -0400 Received: from pc201.uni-germanistik.gwdg.de ([134.76.139.33]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <joostkremers@HIDDEN>) id 1SEbvR-0000Ci-M9; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 09:43:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 09:44:03 +0200 From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition Message-ID: <20120402074402.GA29206@HIDDEN> References: <20120323154400.GA47762@HIDDEN> <wlpqbqr43r.wl%mituharu@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <wlpqbqr43r.wl%mituharu@HIDDEN> X-Editor: Emacs of course! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Authenticated: Id:jkremer X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:21:28PM +0900, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > The NS port doesn't support text shaping. The Mac port, which used to > support text shaping only for left-to-right, now also supports for > right-to-left: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-04/msg00018.html > > I'd appreciate it if you could accept its experimental/hackers-only > status and try it, because its right-to-left text shaping code is very > new and not fully tested. I'd be happy to try it, but when I open the Emacs.app included in the mac/ folder, I get the following error: joost@pc201:~/Desktop/emacs-24.0.95-mac-2.91/mac $ open Emacs.app/ LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -10810 for the file /Users/joost/Desktop/emacs-24.0.95-mac-2.91/mac/Emacs.app. (Same thing happens if I move Emacs.app to /Applications.) J. -- Dr. Joost Kremers Georg-August-Universität Seminar für Deutsche Philologie Käte-Hamburger-Weg 3 D-37073 Göttingen
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 08:39:41PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:23:11 +0100
> > From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > Unless you build Emacs with a library that supports Arabic shaping,
> > > you won't be able to have it. Does OS X offer such a library?
> >
> > I don't know, but I suspect it does, because Arabic text is displayed
> > correctly in e.g. TextEdit.
>
> Well, maybe you can find out what that libraries are and how to link
> against them, then we could include the necessary instructions in
> Emacs.
Since I'm not an Apple developer, I'm not really sure where to look for
such information. From what I've found through Google, it seems that the
relevant library is simply CoreText, but I may completely misunderstand how
OS X libraries work...
> I don't have access to OS X, so if you could build libotf and the
> other libraries mentioned in INSTALL and see if that gets you Arabic
> shaping, that'd be nice. Thanks in advance.
I've tried, but haven't been successful... m17n-db can be installed, though
it requires downloading the charmaps and installing GNU/gettext because the
program msgfmt isn't part of OS X. (It's part of GNU/gettext but not of the
gettext that comes with OS X, it seems.)
Then, however, configuring m17n-lib failed with the following message:
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I m4
autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Libtool
autoreconf: running: /usr/local/Cellar/autoconf/2.68/bin/autoconf --force
configure.ac:52: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
See the Autoconf documentation.
autoreconf: /usr/local/Cellar/autoconf/2.68/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1
Since I have no idea what this is about, I stopped my attempts at
installation.
--
Dr. Joost Kremers
Georg-August-Universität
Seminar für Deutsche Philologie
Käte-Hamburger-Weg 3
D-37073 Göttingen
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Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2012 19:11:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 23 15:11:13 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SB9tF-0000Df-Jo for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:11:13 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:41692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1SB9sy-0000D1-Ah for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:11:07 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M1C00H00P2MVZ00@HIDDEN> for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.241.151]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M1C00H3BP5YVD30@HIDDEN>; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:39:41 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition In-reply-to: <20120323182311.GA13392@darkstar> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> Message-id: <838virupoy.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <20120323154400.GA47762@HIDDEN> <83aa37uu0c.fsf@HIDDEN> <20120323182311.GA13392@darkstar> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:23:11 +0100 > From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> > Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > Unless you build Emacs with a library that supports Arabic shaping, > > you won't be able to have it. Does OS X offer such a library? > > I don't know, but I suspect it does, because Arabic text is displayed > correctly in e.g. TextEdit. Well, maybe you can find out what that libraries are and how to link against them, then we could include the necessary instructions in Emacs. > > Can't libotf be compiled on OS X? > > I haven't tried, but since it's part of both Fink and MacPorts, I suspect > it can. If you try that, please be sure to build all the libraries mentioned in INSTALL under "Complex Text Layout support libraries". > Anyway, just let me know if I can help. I don't have access to OS X, so if you could build libotf and the other libraries mentioned in INSTALL and see if that gets you Arabic shaping, that'd be nice. Thanks in advance.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11075; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2012 18:53:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 23 14:53:37 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35688 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SB9cD-0008Dm-4O for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:53:37 -0400 Received: from fmailer.gwdg.de ([134.76.11.16]:47774) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <joostkremers@HIDDEN>) id 1SB9bw-0008DK-1c for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:53:31 -0400 Received: from 77-21-74-134-dynip.superkabel.de ([77.21.74.134] helo=darkstar) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <joostkremers@HIDDEN>) id 1SB97y-0003ik-Rw; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:22:19 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:23:11 +0100 From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition Message-ID: <20120323182311.GA13392@darkstar> References: <20120323154400.GA47762@HIDDEN> <83aa37uu0c.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <83aa37uu0c.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Editor: Emacs of course! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Authenticated: Id:jkremer X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:06:27PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:44:01 +0100 > > From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> > > > > Although Emacs 24 has bidi support (yay!), character composition for Arabic > > does not work for me on OS X. (In the Arabic script, each character has > > different forms depending on its position in the word: beginning, middle or > > end. These shapes should be selected automatically by the software, but > > they are not.) > > Unless you build Emacs with a library that supports Arabic shaping, > you won't be able to have it. Does OS X offer such a library? I don't know, but I suspect it does, because Arabic text is displayed correctly in e.g. TextEdit. (Though interestingly, neither LibreOffice nor MS Word do...) > > On Linux, Emacs needs to be compiled with libotf in order to provide the > > necessary character composition, which then works perfectly. > > Can't libotf be compiled on OS X? I haven't tried, but since it's part of both Fink and MacPorts, I suspect it can. I can try compiling libotf and then Emacs 24 and see if it works, but it'll be a few days (perhaps even more) before I have an opportunity (and the time...) to do so. (OTOH, since libotf isn't part of OS X, it may not be preferable for Emacs to use it on OS X, especially if there is a native library.) Anyway, just let me know if I can help. J. -- Dr. Joost Kremers Georg-August-Universität Seminar für Deutsche Philologie Käte-Hamburger-Weg 3 D-37073 Göttingen
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11075; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 11075) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2012 17:37:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 23 13:37:36 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35666 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SB8Qe-0006Q6-3T for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:37:35 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:34340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1SB8QO-0006Pk-GF for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:37:31 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M1C00H00KPZOR00@HIDDEN> for 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:06:21 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.241.151]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M1C00HWDKUKKT80@HIDDEN>; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:06:21 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:06:27 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11075: 24.0.94; Arabic character composition In-reply-to: <20120323154400.GA47762@HIDDEN> X-012-Sender: halo1@HIDDEN To: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> Message-id: <83aa37uu0c.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <20120323154400.GA47762@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11075 Cc: 11075 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:44:01 +0100 > From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> > > Although Emacs 24 has bidi support (yay!), character composition for Arabic > does not work for me on OS X. (In the Arabic script, each character has > different forms depending on its position in the word: beginning, middle or > end. These shapes should be selected automatically by the software, but > they are not.) Unless you build Emacs with a library that supports Arabic shaping, you won't be able to have it. Does OS X offer such a library? > On Linux, Emacs needs to be compiled with libotf in order to provide the > necessary character composition, which then works perfectly. Can't libotf be compiled on OS X?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11075; Package emacs.
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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Authenticated: Id:jkremer X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:40:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': Although Emacs 24 has bidi support (yay!), character composition for Arabic does not work for me on OS X. (In the Arabic script, each character has different forms depending on its position in the word: beginning, middle or end. These shapes should be selected automatically by the software, but they are not.) On Linux, Emacs needs to be compiled with libotf in order to provide the necessary character composition, which then works perfectly. Joost Kremers In GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36) of 2012-02-28 on bob.porkrind.org Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138 Configured using: `configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t yas/global-mode: t yas/minor-mode: t show-paren-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: <home> C-SPC <end> M-w C-c C-c n C-y C-SPC M-n C-w <home> C-SPC M-n C-n C-w M-n M-n M-n M-n <next> C-x C-c C-g C-c C-c n C-x C-f d r o <tab> w o <tab> s t i <tab> a <tab> <return> M-x r e p o <tab> r <tab> <return> Recent messages: Do you want to attach anything? 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ob-eval org-pcomplete pcomplete comint ansi-color ring org-list org-faces org-compat org-entities org-macs cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs org-install yasnippet dropdown-list help-mode view assoc markdown-mode thingatpt noutline outline bm show-wspace windmove paren swbuff post derived advice help-fns advice-preload ebib easy-mmode bibtex preview-latex tex-site auto-loads zenburn color-theme edmacro kmacro wid-edit cl sendmail regexp-opt rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils reporter easymenu server delsel time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) -- Joost Kremers, PhD University of Göttingen Institute for German Philology Käte-Hamburger-Weg 3 37073 Göttingen, Germany
Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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