Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
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Maybe one of these days I will find >> time to work on this. It bugs me (pun intended) that this veteran >> feature stopped working on TTY frames. > > My point is that now -- 20 years after this stopped working -- we should > step back a bit and look at whether this functionality (which must at > this remove be seen to be a new feature) makes sense. > > And I don't think it does much. Setting a variable that makes the Emacs > display go inverse? That's just kinda odd. (That was four years ago.) The attached patch obsoletes 'inverse-video' and makes the variable into a no-op. --0000000000008058bd061b932ad8 Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset="US-ASCII"; name="0001-Make-inverse-video-obsolete.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-Make-inverse-video-obsolete.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: b0de9ddd6986d890_0.1 RnJvbSAyMzU5ZmRkMGY0ZDM2NTMzODUzNzA0Y2QwMjNjMWRkMjExNTkxN2MyIE1vbiBTZXAgMTcg MDA6MDA6MDAgMjAwMQpGcm9tOiBTdGVmYW4gS2FuZ2FzIDxzdGVmYW5rYW5nYXNAZ21haWwuY29t PgpEYXRlOiBTdW4sIDIzIEp1biAyMDI0IDE5OjUxOjIzICswMjAwClN1YmplY3Q6IFtQQVRDSF0g TWFrZSAnaW52ZXJzZS12aWRlbycgb2Jzb2xldGUKCiogc3JjL2Rpc3BuZXcuYyAoc3ltc19vZl9k aXNwbGF5KSA8aW52ZXJzZS12aWRlbz46CiogbGlzcC9zdWJyLmVsIChpbnZlcnNlLXZpZGVvKTog RGVjbGFyZSB2YXJpYWJsZSBhcyBvYnNvbGV0ZS4KKiBzcmMvbXNkb3MuYyAoSVRfc2V0X2ZhY2Up OiBEb24ndCB1c2UgYWJvdmUgdmFyaWFibGUuCiogbGlzcC9jdXMtc3RhcnQuZWwgKHN0YW5kYXJk KTogUmVtb3ZlIHZhcmlhYmxlICdpbnZlcnNlLXZpZGVvJwoqIHNyYy90ZXJtLmMgKHR0eV9iYWNr 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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11430; Package emacs.
Full text available.Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org.
Full text available.Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org.
Full text available.Received: (at 11430) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2020 14:10:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 22 10:10:14 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60988 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kKizm-0005il-Ab for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:10:14 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kKizk-0005iY-DA for 11430 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:10:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=X+M1f6wFy+4B3/n0FCaLZn9LmctJ+3/1ApDJdPc9Ymo=; b=Kg+s7FWuIynl3dt2sP4mwjP+Ju gU9wasfkMveHMLUCcC8+vrRd+iVTAm/s7NqJBjWdeMIavsW+4RTtnoI9rP2ELvWnS2tLLERgfWT/w +p0RkypCkz4Ym1mi8X4zIisHFWxyofQqCnX0mOYrtjicX/6q/sdvpInzwWHC/pyYxEKU=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kKizb-0003Kw-3o; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 16:10:05 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11430: 24.0.96; Customizing `inverse-video' has no effect on session References: <CF05DC9F523E40858D502213E698D1A7@HIDDEN> <87sirsewrg.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfszihrv.fsf@HIDDEN> <12b63a55-3b24-4e61-962a-29754f2e0b84@default> <87k18jxtb9.fsf@HIDDEN> <835zk2k3w2.fsf@HIDDEN> <875z87mat3.fsf@HIDDEN> <83lfh3xhub.fsf@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEVdcYgxOEyipqvd 3eD////D6/IgAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+QJFg0gKJGKhg0AAAGiSURBVDjLdZMBlqsw CEUBN0DyN0BgA52w/73NI2qr8y2eU2tugAchxO3ZyL4QmvYFpF9ciOgDLi6XdYB0ssdQOT3HI8jI +QyywpHyE0A8hzz+H6SXBSsT/wVwiomgMm4A0cLJ1w4iVpoXUD5ZfmZEEJsHjF26eJg7WhJ5NV+P CR37F5277sBDla7MdmVxlJRGTnzGmGSyi5gF3LbymhaQqehoBtIaMcXYVpaAzA28fOCNIn1LfM5K 4UtkZSHuo8OzCsC6L2mTwkjURXZZc/OjVAwPiYmxlKilZ1U/1/kHOXesFKk6IuVVQLeB4fBSXV3M 3GY3BWj4YdYmKAmbY/aB7wINSEnRHomktDrfA8DEpzltAD/rW9t5woZ+DAk9AFb6vmOKKYe1D9DK 3loq2havJm+A3RUtGKLh8R67Si6YQqKux+C8AQZQ19ZBfAOtzZVHWf4AdXRFW79cm7Pygc5gYvgO qJvX37hd4CoXszVWjrvHv/zZUC+W36HqkhaY8irV5/J6K70iwyqSmH8sk3CY5nZO6seo4+zzwSi/ GOX73tztF8cGfwvEszNKAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTA5LTIyVDEzOjMyOjQwKzAw OjAwuNt79QAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMC0wOS0yMlQxMzozMjo0MCswMDowMMmGw0kA AAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Moloko's _I Am Not A Doctor_: "The ID" Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 16:10:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83lfh3xhub.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:36:12 +0300") Message-ID: <87lfh1j41y.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm asking not to remove it yet. Maybe one of these days I will find > time to work on this. It bugs me (pun intended) that this veteran > feature stopped working on TTY frames. 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Maybe one of these days I will find > time to work on this. It bugs me (pun intended) that this veteran > feature stopped working on TTY frames. My point is that now -- 20 years after this stopped working -- we should step back a bit and look at whether this functionality (which must at this remove be seen to be a new feature) makes sense. And I don't think it does much. Setting a variable that makes the Emacs display go inverse? That's just kinda odd. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 11430) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2020 15:36:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 21 11:36:19 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kKNrW-0006ap-Rc for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:36:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kKNrU-0006aa-Tu for 11430 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:36:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kKNrP-0006Pn-DY; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:36:11 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4022 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kKNrN-0007IS-UO; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:36:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:36:12 +0300 Message-Id: <83lfh3xhub.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <875z87mat3.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:03:36 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#11430: 24.0.96; Customizing `inverse-video' has no effect on session References: <CF05DC9F523E40858D502213E698D1A7@HIDDEN> <87sirsewrg.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfszihrv.fsf@HIDDEN> <12b63a55-3b24-4e61-962a-29754f2e0b84@default> <87k18jxtb9.fsf@HIDDEN> <835zk2k3w2.fsf@HIDDEN> <875z87mat3.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11430 Cc: 11430 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@HIDDEN, drew.adams@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> > Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN>, 11430 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, > drew.adams@HIDDEN > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:03:36 +0200 > > > FWIW, I see no reason to remove the variable just because we don't > > seem to know how to fix this. > > The variable hasn't worked for 20 years (apparently), and this is the > only bug report about it, which is perhaps a hint that we should just > remove it. I'm asking not to remove it yet. Maybe one of these days I will find time to work on this. It bugs me (pun intended) that this veteran feature stopped working on TTY frames.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11430; Package emacs.
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It doesn't follow that we should remove it. A bug is a bug. Better to keep this bug open. Someday, perhaps, Someone(TM) will be motivated and find a way to fix it. And if not, so what? What harm does it do to keep a report open for a recognized bug? When it comes to free software and its volunteers, no one's career is boosted by just reducing a bug count as an end in itself. Or am I missing something?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11430; Package emacs.
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Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Not sure what it is. It seems to be orthogonal to "emacs
>> --reverse-video", and has no effect when I try setting it manually in a
>> running session, nor when I run "emacs --eval='(setq inverse-video t)'
>> -Q -nw".
>>
>> It was removed from the manual here:
>> b4a1a8b278 2010-03-02 Chong Yidong * frames.texi (Mouse Avoidance):
>> Mention make-pointer-invisible.
>>
>> I also found the following:
>>
>> ./src/ChangeLog.9:
>>
>> > 2001-10-20 Miles Bader <miles@HIDDEN>
>> [...]
>> > The following changes remove inverse-video support for terminals
>> > that use a `magic cookie' standout mode. Due to changes in the
>> > way mode-lines are displayed, such support no longer works
>> > anyway, and it's probable that almost no one uses such terminals
>> > anymore:
>> [...]
>> > 2001-04-25 Gerd Moellmann <gerd@HIDDEN>
>> >
>> > * faces.el (tty-handle-reverse-video): Don't set inverse-video.
>>
>> So I have the same question as Lars: is this just some old obsolete
>> variable that should be removed?
>
> Why would it be obsolete? Anyway, it's in the C source code still.
As I said, I can't discern any visible effects from setting it to t.
By the way, the attached patch removes the variable. I'm not suggesting
to install it as is, but perhaps it could be useful in figuring out what
the inverse-video variable does and what to do about it.
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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Content-Disposition: inline; filename=inverse-video.diff
diff --git a/src/dispnew.c b/src/dispnew.c
index 4cdc76f5bc..6cea3b8de6 100644
--- a/src/dispnew.c
+++ b/src/dispnew.c
@@ -6234,7 +6234,6 @@ init_display_interactive (void)
SET_CHAR_GLYPH (space_glyph, ' ', DEFAULT_FACE_ID, 0);
space_glyph.charpos = -1;
- inverse_video = 0;
cursor_in_echo_area = false;
/* Now is the time to initialize this; it's used by init_sys_modes
@@ -6497,10 +6496,6 @@ syms_of_display (void)
On most systems, changing this value will affect the amount of padding
and the other strategic decisions made during redisplay. */);
- DEFVAR_BOOL ("inverse-video", inverse_video,
- doc: /* Non-nil means invert the entire frame display.
-This means everything is in inverse video which otherwise would not be. */);
-
DEFVAR_BOOL ("visible-bell", visible_bell,
doc: /* Non-nil means try to flash the frame to represent a bell.
diff --git a/src/msdos.c b/src/msdos.c
index 1192b37a0d..e1ba6d0813 100644
--- a/src/msdos.c
+++ b/src/msdos.c
@@ -838,14 +838,6 @@ IT_set_face (int face)
fg = bg;
bg = tem;
}
- /* If the user requested inverse video, obey. */
- if (inverse_video)
- {
- unsigned long tem2 = fg;
-
- fg = bg;
- bg = tem2;
- }
if (tty->termscript)
fprintf (tty->termscript, "<FACE %d: %lu/%lu[FG:%lu/BG:%lu]>", face,
fp->foreground, fp->background, fg, bg);
diff --git a/src/term.c b/src/term.c
index 642010549b..9407385540 100644
--- a/src/term.c
+++ b/src/term.c
@@ -356,16 +356,12 @@ tty_show_cursor (struct tty_display_info *tty)
/* Set standout mode to the state it should be in for
- empty space inside windows. What this is,
- depends on the user option inverse-video. */
+ empty space inside windows. */
static void
tty_background_highlight (struct tty_display_info *tty)
{
- if (inverse_video)
- tty_turn_on_highlight (tty);
- else
- tty_turn_off_highlight (tty);
+ tty_turn_off_highlight (tty);
}
/* Set standout mode to the mode specified for the text to be output. */
@@ -373,10 +369,7 @@ tty_background_highlight (struct tty_display_info *tty)
static void
tty_highlight_if_desired (struct tty_display_info *tty)
{
- if (inverse_video)
- tty_turn_on_highlight (tty);
- else
- tty_turn_off_highlight (tty);
+ tty_turn_off_highlight (tty);
}
@@ -1909,9 +1902,7 @@ turn_on_face (struct frame *f, int face_id)
Do this first because TS_end_standout_mode may be the same
as TS_exit_attribute_mode, which turns all appearances off. */
if (MAY_USE_WITH_COLORS_P (tty, NC_REVERSE)
- && (inverse_video
- ? fg == FACE_TTY_DEFAULT_FG_COLOR || bg == FACE_TTY_DEFAULT_BG_COLOR
- : fg == FACE_TTY_DEFAULT_BG_COLOR || bg == FACE_TTY_DEFAULT_FG_COLOR))
+ && (fg == FACE_TTY_DEFAULT_BG_COLOR || bg == FACE_TTY_DEFAULT_FG_COLOR))
tty_toggle_highlight (tty);
if (face->tty_bold_p && MAY_USE_WITH_COLORS_P (tty, NC_BOLD))
--=-=-=--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#11430; Package emacs.
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Set for current session. > >> > >> It has no effect, either on existing frames or on new ones. > > > > Hm. Is this a deprecated variable or something? Or is it only used > on > > startup? In any case, the doc string should probably mention this, > > whatever is going on... >=20 > Not sure what it is. It seems to be orthogonal to "emacs > --reverse-video", and has no effect when I try setting it manually in a > running session, nor when I run "emacs --eval=3D'(setq inverse-video t)' > -Q -nw". >=20 > It was removed from the manual here: > b4a1a8b278 2010-03-02 Chong Yidong * frames.texi (Mouse Avoidance): > Mention make-pointer-invisible. >=20 > I also found the following: >=20 > ./src/ChangeLog.9: >=20 > > 2001-10-20 Miles Bader <miles@HIDDEN> > [...] > > =09The following changes remove inverse-video support for terminals > > =09that use a `magic cookie' standout mode. Due to changes in the > > =09way mode-lines are displayed, such support no longer works > > =09anyway, and it's probable that almost no one uses such terminals > > =09anymore: > [...] > > 2001-04-25 Gerd Moellmann <gerd@HIDDEN> > > > > =09* faces.el (tty-handle-reverse-video): Don't set inverse-video. >=20 > So I have the same question as Lars: is this just some old obsolete > variable that should be removed? Why would it be obsolete? Anyway, it's in the C source code still.
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Set for current session. It has no effect, either on existing frames or on new ones. But doing this has the desired effect: M-x customize-face default Turn on attribute `inverse-video'. Set for current session. Setting user option `inverse-video' should have the same effect: it should affect the current session. In GNU Emacs 24.0.96.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-04-28 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include'
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