Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 11445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2021 07:15:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 03 03:15:22 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lohZZ-0007DE-PA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 03:15:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39106) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lohZX-0007Cu-9e for 11445 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 03:15:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ji2T+ynaQFVK2linVCfrjKQH5cVHzvpPDb28vWuS5kc=; b=PnEKSiQYe63kHv9TnbKDrNYjQ5 RJqKhBNK9UtlzAOoAp7H5kFxbymfXIxy9HKZ8VDvFZr3J3zdZnmLE4hyQoma4Q6Tp0C2LzCtpW3Fv 5tRD7f1B5u6KGOt8wRXPbtV+Z60pwV2DJuFVQt5NiTwgucyjBhYuArpcqfxFrHs7M3SA=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lohZO-0007fS-Dk; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:15:13 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#11445: 24.0.96; Customize buffer edit fields should have undo References: <428727A8D734409481B739A7443120C5@HIDDEN> <87h7ig94zg.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8co4fu4.fsf@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEUWEhAhHRokIR4w LCpFQT5BPTtRTUpwbm2ioaBiX12Cf33S0M5AP0D////jKYWoAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+UGAwY5IsjByjMAAAEhSURBVDjL3VK9asMwEJZ8YNrtJJPOiQ2eZR9kLoSGjoW8QIhKoHMGpy9Q FOjQUHBT+gh9gYJerrJdWsexBg9Z+k06fafvfj4x9q/B0ccI75PBxDkxvP9A+Rjy1YiqKnx8WgMq LegIJpwJUd3JTnosBQo8bk04oJQTFL/DIK/OMo9jrCOXVBOCw41iPKGcZlXsvMtqKWCpniFL1hlt l41I0xKn/OE1Y6NyND48NdI/+4L7TMcUlG/RrdmLFuGaC4E07Myn2Sxggi1XQzVPV1NrjdlfIbbW D3fhcnr9Ya19WXSHngeP7wfzVWh9bBgPVVqyiNakuoZpQe1d/1kMOXdR3z+LkJ0HA3V5Y9opLoti 00tcGLPrf2G2z71EQG5lvu/9DcTpK8x/LFvbAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTA2LTAz VDA2OjU3OjM0KzAwOjAw5g72xQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wNi0wM1QwNjo1Nzoz NCswMDowMJdTTnkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Little Simz's _Grey Area_: "Offence" Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:15:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8co4fu4.fsf@HIDDEN> (Mauro Aranda's message of "Wed, 02 Jun 2021 09:21:39 -0300") Message-ID: <87h7ifberm.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@HIDDEN> writes: > C-x u again: "No further undo information". But that's not expected; if > undo worked, the field value would be the default value. Ah, right -- I can reproduce that, too. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11445 Cc: 11445 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@HIDDEN> writes: > C-x u again: "No further undo information". But that's not expected; if > undo worked, the field value would be the default value. Ah, right -- I can reproduce that, too. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Why shouldn't undo be available > > to users here? >=20 > As far as I can tell, `undo' works fine in text fields in Customize > buffers. Are you still seeing this problem in recent Emacs versions? Good question. Pulling up Emacs 23 now to check what this was about... Some editable fields, at least, do have undo. But not once you've chosen `Set for current session'. Just as you can continue to edit a field after you've chosen to set the value, so I think you should be able to undo previous edits you made. Why would we turn off undo, just because you chose set, or even save? As long as editing is available so should undo be available. (We don't change fields to read-only just because you chose set or save.) In fact, the problem is worse. Consider customizing an option such as `Info-default-directory-list'. Each editable field has its own undo, and as soon as you move to another editable field and edit it you lose the ability to undo changes you made previously to the first field. You can then try to make other changes to the already changed first field, but undo then takes you back only as far as what was frozen when you went on to edit the second field. This isn't helpful. You should be able to undo globally, throughout the Customize buffer. Secondly, considering "editing" more broadly, why not let undo apply even to other changes you make in the buffer, from `Toggle' to a `Value Menu' choice. The point is to be able to undo changes you've made to the option, regardless of whether you've chosen set or save yet. These non-edit-field kinds of changes are not in the same ball-park, admittedly, so fixing this for them might involve more work. But this is something to aim for, and it should be part of this bug fix (enhancement request, if you prefer). In particular, consider `customize-face' changes. For the most part changes to attributes involve using `Value Menu'. It's important, I think, to be able to undo a bunch of such changes, and not just changes in an individual editable field. ___ There, that constitutes a needed supplement to my admittedly terse bug report. At least I'm thinking that this is what I was thinking of. ___ That was all taking a look with Emacs 23.4. Now let me look at Emacs 27.2, to see if any of that has already been fixed... And I see no improvement in any of that. I'd ask that this bug remain open. HTH.
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