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And it shows the doc string for bar and provides a link to the doc string for foo. It is clear to users what is going on. `M-x customize bar' shows only the same thing as `M-x customize foo'. Like `C-h v', customizing bar should (a) show the correct var name (bar), (b) mention that it is an alias for foo, and (c) show bar's doc string. The mention of foo should include a link to foo's doc. IOW, same info that `C-h v' provides. Being able to alias a variable in library toto, with prefix `toto-', to a user option in library titi, with prefix `titi-', can be helpful for users. It can present them with not only a more relevant option name for library toto, but also more relevant doc. It can give them a toto view of the variable. The variable behavior can be described at different levels. And the behavior for library toto can be more complex - that is, the variable value (which is obviously the same) can have toto-specific consequences. For toto, the variable might do something additional. Yes, it's the same variable/value in the end. But speaking about it in toto terms can be more accurate or more meaningful to a user of library toto. In GNU Emacs 24.0.96.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-04-28 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include'
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