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24.1.50; word-wrap should wrap on non-words if the current word is too long

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: Ivan Andrus <darthandrus@HIDDEN>; dated Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:32:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#11759: 24.1.50;
	word-wrap should wrap on non-words if the current word is too long
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>> - if the word is the first non-blank char on the line, wrapping to the
>> next line results in a visually empty line, losing the
>> indentation info.
>> - if the word is wider than the window (plus the wrap-prefix), then even
>> after word-wrapping it to the next line, it gets char-wrapped anyway,
>> so we didn't win anything.

> FWIW, word wrap behaves the same way in other editors (checked with
> gedit and with a text box in Firefox).

But Emacs should behave better.
Another case I find annoying is when I have a long space at the end of
a line, where it causes the last word on that line to be wrapped to the
next line: wrapping is unavoidable, but I'd rather it be done after
the last word than before.


        Stefan




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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:27:20 +0200
>> Cc: Ivan Andrus <darthandrus@HIDDEN>, 11759 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> > Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>> >
>> >>> if the entire line is one "word" but indented, which is not uncommon
>> >>> in some files that I regularly edit, then the entire line is wrapped
>> >>> to the next line leaving a completely blank visual line.
>> >>
>> >> I also use word-wrap everywhere, including programming modes and see =
the
>> >> same problem.
>> >>
>> >> - if the word is the first non-blank char on the line, wrapping to th=
e
>> >> =C2=A0 next line results in a visually empty line, losing the
>> >> =C2=A0 indentation info.
>> >> - if the word is wider than the window (plus the wrap-prefix), then e=
ven
>> >> =C2=A0 after word-wrapping it to the next line, it gets char-wrapped =
anyway,
>> >> =C2=A0 so we didn't win anything.
>> >
>> > FWIW, word wrap behaves the same way in other editors (checked with
>> > gedit and with a text box in Firefox).
>>
>> I think it will be very nice if such long words could wrap.
>
> They already do, please check the actual Emacs behavior.

Oh, I see. I never noticed the char-wrap since behaviour Stefan told
about just makes me avoid such troubles (it is in org-mode I have seen
it).

Anyway, word truncation would be a good alternative at least for me.




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> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:27:20 +0200
> Cc: Ivan Andrus <darthandrus@HIDDEN>, 11759 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>=20
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
> >
> >>> if the entire line is one "word" but indented, which is not unc=
ommon
> >>> in some files that I regularly edit, then the entire line is wr=
apped
> >>> to the next line leaving a completely blank visual line.
> >>
> >> I also use word-wrap everywhere, including programming modes and=
 see the
> >> same problem.
> >>
> >> - if the word is the first non-blank char on the line, wrapping =
to the
> >> =C2=A0 next line results in a visually empty line, losing the
> >> =C2=A0 indentation info.
> >> - if the word is wider than the window (plus the wrap-prefix), t=
hen even
> >> =C2=A0 after word-wrapping it to the next line, it gets char-wra=
pped anyway,
> >> =C2=A0 so we didn't win anything.
> >
> > FWIW, word wrap behaves the same way in other editors (checked wi=
th
> > gedit and with a text box in Firefox).
>=20
> I think it will be very nice if such long words could wrap.

They already do, please check the actual Emacs behavior.





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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>>> if the entire line is one "word" but indented, which is not uncommon
>>> in some files that I regularly edit, then the entire line is wrapped
>>> to the next line leaving a completely blank visual line.
>>
>> I also use word-wrap everywhere, including programming modes and see the
>> same problem.
>>
>> - if the word is the first non-blank char on the line, wrapping to the
>> =C2=A0 next line results in a visually empty line, losing the
>> =C2=A0 indentation info.
>> - if the word is wider than the window (plus the wrap-prefix), then even
>> =C2=A0 after word-wrapping it to the next line, it gets char-wrapped any=
way,
>> =C2=A0 so we didn't win anything.
>
> FWIW, word wrap behaves the same way in other editors (checked with
> gedit and with a text box in Firefox).

I think it will be very nice if such long words could wrap. It would
also be nice to have the alternative to truncate such long words.
(They are often URL in my case and truncating them with the full URL
as a help string would be fine.)




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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

>> if the entire line is one "word" but indented, which is not uncommon
>> in some files that I regularly edit, then the entire line is wrapped
>> to the next line leaving a completely blank visual line.
>
> I also use word-wrap everywhere, including programming modes and see the
> same problem.
>
> - if the word is the first non-blank char on the line, wrapping to the
>   next line results in a visually empty line, losing the
>   indentation info.
> - if the word is wider than the window (plus the wrap-prefix), then even
>   after word-wrapping it to the next line, it gets char-wrapped anyway,
>   so we didn't win anything.

FWIW, word wrap behaves the same way in other editors (checked with
gedit and with a text box in Firefox).




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> Setting word-wrap is generally a very nice addition and I like it even
> when programming.  However it can cause annoying behavior when the
> "words" are very long.  For example if the entire line is one "word" but
> indented, which is not uncommon in some files that I regularly edit,
> then the entire line is wrapped to the next line leaving a completely
> blank visual line.  Arguably this is bad programming style, but it would
> be nice if I could specify a maximum length for a "word".  If it would
> require breaking longer than this limit, then it should break as if
> word-wrap were off.

I also use word-wrap everywhere, including programming modes and see the
same problem.  A word-size-limit might do the trick, but there are a few
cases where we don't even need that, I think:

- if the word is the first non-blank char on the line, wrapping to the
  next line results in a visually empty line, losing the
  indentation info.
- if the word is wider than the window (plus the wrap-prefix), then even
  after word-wrapping it to the next line, it gets char-wrapped anyway,
  so we didn't win anything.

I don't know if those two cases cover all interesting situations, but at
least I think it's worth trying to address them first.


        Stefan




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Setting word-wrap is generally a very nice addition and I like it even
when programming.  However it can cause annoying behavior when the
"words" are very long.  For example if the entire line is one "word" but
indented, which is not uncommon in some files that I regularly edit,
then the entire line is wrapped to the next line leaving a completely
blank visual line.  Arguably this is bad programming style, but it would
be nice if I could specify a maximum length for a "word".  If it would
require breaking longer than this limit, then it should break as if
word-wrap were off.

Below is a contrived example of what can cause problems when the buffer
is not sufficiently wide.

    =
this.long_method_name().another_method().what_an_impossibly_long_method_wi=
th_lots_of_arguments(1,2,3,4,[4,5,6,7,8,9]).and_no_spaces()

Thank,
Ivan

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