GNU bug report logs - #12065
24.1; `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again

Please note: This is a static page, with minimal formatting, updated once a day.
Click here to see this page with the latest information and nicer formatting.

Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN>; Keywords: notabug; dated Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:53:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2016 07:17:12 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 06 03:17:12 2016
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1bVvr6-0002ce-44
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:17:12 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59361)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1bVvr4-0002cS-QZ
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:17:11 -0400
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
 (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1bVvqx-0000QC-TU
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:17:05 -0400
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD
 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59867)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>)
 id 1bVvqx-0000Py-Pj; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:17:03 -0400
Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1661
 helo=home-c4e4a596f7)
 by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128)
 (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>)
 id 1bVvqv-0007M9-Gy; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:17:02 -0400
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 10:16:56 +0300
Message-Id: <834m6yl63b.fsf@HIDDEN>
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
To: npostavs@HIDDEN
In-reply-to: <87wpju7ngs.fsf@HIDDEN>
 (npostavs@HIDDEN)
Subject: Re: bug#12065: 24.1;
 `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
 <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default>
 <87wpju7ngs.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic]
X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e
X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
Cc: drew.adams@HIDDEN, 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------)

> From: npostavs@HIDDEN
> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:25:23 -0400
> Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I thought maybe the point of that option is to hide the button.

It is.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2016 07:16:52 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 06 03:16:52 2016
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57097 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1bVvql-0002ba-RI
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:16:52 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59314)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1bVvqj-0002bN-Oe
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:16:49 -0400
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
 (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1bVvqb-0000OV-HB
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:16:44 -0400
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD
 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59866)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>)
 id 1bVvqS-0000NE-Ox; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:16:32 -0400
Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1660
 helo=home-c4e4a596f7)
 by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128)
 (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>)
 id 1bVvqQ-0007Lw-LP; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:16:31 -0400
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 10:16:25 +0300
Message-Id: <8360rel646.fsf@HIDDEN>
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
In-reply-to: <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default> (message from Drew
 Adams on Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT))
Subject: Re: bug#12065: 24.1;
 `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
 <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default>
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic]
X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e
X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@HIDDEN
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------)

tags 12065 + notabug
thanks

> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Apart from doing a setq manually, there is an "Apply" (it's labeled "Set
> > for current session" in 24.1) button at the top of the buffer.
> 
> Huh?  I don't understand how that means that this is not a bug.

You've misunderstood what Noam was saying, that's all.

> You might not have the will or resources to fix this now, but
> this certainly must be a bug.

And this is an uncalled-for attack.  Are you working on acquiring yet
another member of the project who will not want to work on your bug
reports?  If so, you are on the right path.

> If a user can change the value using the Value menu then it
> should be possible to change it back again, _using the Value
> menu_.

What Noam tells you is this: if you click "Apply" after selecting any
other value, the "State" button reappears.  And the help-echo on the
"Apply" and "Apply and Save" buttons is also revealing.

> It makes no difference that there might be other ways to change
> it back.  This bug is about using the Value menu (and then the
> State menu).

There is no bug that I can see, Emacs is behaving as documented and as
expected, since hiding that button is part of what the nil value does.

> The point of this bug is that using the Value menu is a one-way
> street, exceptionally, in the case of this one option.

No, it isn't.  See above.

> That's not normal - why should this option be an exception to how
> Emacs Customize works?

Because that's its purpose.

> And if you change the value to short or long there is no such
> problem.

Indeed, as documented.

> Using the Value menu to change the value to no should make the
> State menu disappear.  Period.

That's what Emacs does.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2016 01:42:21 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 21:42:21 2016
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1bVqd3-0003H2-GC
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 21:42:21 -0400
Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:48175)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1bVqd1-0003Go-7j
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 21:42:19 -0400
Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74])
 by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id
 u761gBbU011486
 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK);
 Sat, 6 Aug 2016 01:42:12 GMT
Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72])
 by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u761gAWC006878
 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK);
 Sat, 6 Aug 2016 01:42:10 GMT
Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20])
 by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u761gA9e023028;
 Sat, 6 Aug 2016 01:42:10 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <8b9b0728-ce08-4472-93b8-7afa32fd94f1@default>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:42:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
To: npostavs@HIDDEN
Subject: RE: bug#12065: 24.1; `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get
 back again
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
 <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default>
 <87wpju7ngs.fsf@HIDDEN>
In-Reply-To: <87wpju7ngs.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9  (901082) [OL
 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]
X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---)

> > The point of this bug is that using the Value menu is a one-way
> > street, exceptionally, in the case of this one option.  That's
> > not normal - why should this option be an exception to how
> > Emacs Customize works?  And if you change the value to short
> > or long there is no such problem.
>=20
> I thought maybe the point of that option is to hide the button.

The doc talks about the "textual description of the state."
And `long' and `short' have the effect of providing a long
and short description of the current state - to the right of
the State button.

The doc says nothing about what a `no' (`nil') value means.
But by analogy with the effects of `long' and `short', and by
interpretation of "textual description of the state" as being
the text to the right of the button, which describes the
current state, presumably `no' (`nil') would mean no textual
description of the current state.

That has nothing to do with no State button (which does not
describe the current  state but instead lets you perform=20
various Customize actions, including change the state.

> It's easy enough to exclude the button from hiding, just
> move that code outside of the conditional

I have nothing to say about how to fix the bug.  I only
reported the problem.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2016 00:25:24 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 20:25:24 2016
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56979 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1bVpQZ-00055B-W0
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:25:24 -0400
Received: from mail-io0-f174.google.com ([209.85.223.174]:33498)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <npostavs@HIDDEN>) id 1bVpQX-00054y-VZ
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:25:23 -0400
Received: by mail-io0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 38so314052747iol.0
 for <12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
 h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id
 :user-agent:mime-version;
 bh=Gxeco0Uw06otBcvdb+KqMk5TMtpHVWtPTDxCt3gy6zM=;
 b=oeRWE3PlWi7bWRhBNBiS1uCP02nCTCYc1nXfy9i0jTPUiBSwsW90IoRUh+shuE5EA5
 Iu70D+jkZm4R5kWeH9Gkv0NePPnVSL2MvcmkT0taSjE9DyuW4BiSlUu97xGMoa5TEI4d
 Xvx5CqpzBBbui2fwfCLSEn5bO+PabWbM4oV1vaMmaqmO/eUUirk9DLjK9wuqLphChmXz
 FsOaHYOjzfWtn+PcNwGHaey+V4lhPxaVeGE/Z80/XCH0q4CkLwWuVUu7nXhowUlMP2mW
 ilDdF4XIxxVx4lZv0M7v2H9La+ZPDx1aWfYKx5+/s1oN02DLIqB2McAhtwrif1g8iDHs
 gMRQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
 d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
 h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date
 :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version;
 bh=Gxeco0Uw06otBcvdb+KqMk5TMtpHVWtPTDxCt3gy6zM=;
 b=CqGIWnt2YoU1eFsObvldcHV2ijmdexLVlaN2a/0d8JS+6ao5OWlr129bwXmb+fi8hR
 NDwarCg4mWUljisXz53cm9//3xl0e7qLGD4Qh6kF6TW6sJV7WtyhMAuiBMKUoSjbe6FA
 dAWvQSyWan454AmZzFaEqstOia8S+X43gHp0P6bVkTnmXmDhsT2+ClapeZQIRivgUxAr
 OHwDddy+RHbV/QjsBjwZoZW3wWWKR2rNxAMSyzn6H+JHplRFxHfvscki9Vi/HcnZNmxh
 GKPodGjSszSCUIMG9E5XaCxz2seR+PaQJ4mzu5rR/DXvWeNz6huCpwFM64WKQM9lD9NQ
 7Xkg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuPzSRnfgbp2eTWgxPuK5d/Y5utGtA/TZxMW+7tHbxX6JfCY56CHm2NLDIuqCnMUA==
X-Received: by 10.107.28.11 with SMTP id c11mr97344890ioc.7.1470443116425;
 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:25:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from zony (206-188-64-44.cpe.distributel.net. [206.188.64.44])
 by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm5909320ite.1.2016.08.05.17.25.15
 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: npostavs@HIDDEN
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#12065: 24.1;
 `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
 <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:25:23 -0400
In-Reply-To: <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default> (Drew Adams's
 message of "Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT)")
Message-ID: <87wpju7ngs.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)

Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes:
> The point of this bug is that using the Value menu is a one-way
> street, exceptionally, in the case of this one option.  That's
> not normal - why should this option be an exception to how
> Emacs Customize works?  And if you change the value to short
> or long there is no such problem.

I thought maybe the point of that option is to hide the button.  It's
easy enough to exclude the button from hiding, just move that code
outside of the conditional:

diff --git i/lisp/cus-edit.el w/lisp/cus-edit.el
index ef12745..de219cb 100644
--- i/lisp/cus-edit.el
+++ w/lisp/cus-edit.el
@@ -2053,24 +2053,24 @@ custom-magic-value-create
 	(setq text (concat (match-string 1 text)
 			   (symbol-name category)
 			   (match-string 2 text))))
+      (insert "   ")
+      (when (and (eq category 'group)
+                 (not (and (eq custom-buffer-style 'links)
+                           (> (widget-get parent :custom-level) 1))))
+        (insert-char ?\s (* custom-buffer-indent
+                            (widget-get parent :custom-level))))
+      (push (widget-create-child-and-convert
+             widget 'choice-item
+             :help-echo "Change the state of this item."
+             :format (if hidden "%t" "%[%t%]")
+             :button-prefix 'widget-push-button-prefix
+             :button-suffix 'widget-push-button-suffix
+             :mouse-down-action 'widget-magic-mouse-down-action
+             :tag " State ")
+            children)
       (when (and custom-magic-show
 		 (or (not hidden)
 		     (memq category custom-magic-show-hidden)))
-	(insert "   ")
-	(when (and (eq category 'group)
-		   (not (and (eq custom-buffer-style 'links)
-			     (> (widget-get parent :custom-level) 1))))
-	  (insert-char ?\s (* custom-buffer-indent
-			      (widget-get parent :custom-level))))
-	(push (widget-create-child-and-convert
-	       widget 'choice-item
-	       :help-echo "Change the state of this item."
-	       :format (if hidden "%t" "%[%t%]")
-	       :button-prefix 'widget-push-button-prefix
-	       :button-suffix 'widget-push-button-suffix
-	       :mouse-down-action 'widget-magic-mouse-down-action
-	       :tag " State ")
-	      children)
 	(insert ": ")
 	(let ((start (point)))
 	  (if (eq custom-magic-show 'long)
@@ -2080,8 +2080,8 @@ custom-magic-value-create
 		 (insert " (lisp)"))
 		((eq form 'mismatch)
 		 (insert " (mismatch)")))
-	  (put-text-property start (point) 'face 'custom-state))
-	(insert "\n"))
+	  (put-text-property start (point) 'face 'custom-state)))
+      (insert "\n")
       (when (and (eq category 'group)
 		 (not (and (eq custom-buffer-style 'links)
 			   (> (widget-get parent :custom-level) 1))))





Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2016 00:04:05 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 20:04:05 2016
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1bVp5x-0004cD-5B
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:04:05 -0400
Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:24753)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1bVp5u-0004bi-7a
 for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:04:02 -0400
Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71])
 by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id
 u7603s6T022658
 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK);
 Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:03:55 GMT
Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235])
 by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u7603sx9008013
 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK);
 Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:03:54 GMT
Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11])
 by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u7603rb5020777;
 Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:03:53 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <2e75b433-131f-49c8-9939-2c00ba7e2827@default>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
To: npostavs@HIDDEN
Subject: RE: bug#12065: 24.1; `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get
 back again
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
 <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
In-Reply-To: <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9  (901082) [OL
 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]
X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---)

> > emacs -Q
> >
> > M-x customize-option custom-magic-show
> >
> > Change the value to "no" using Value Menu.
> > Choose Set for Current Session.
> >
> > You can never change it back to another value, because there is no Stat=
e
> > button.
>=20
> Apart from doing a setq manually, there is an "Apply" (it's labeled "Set
> for current session" in 24.1) button at the top of the buffer.

Huh?  I don't understand how that means that this is not a bug.
You might not have the will or resources to fix this now, but
this certainly must be a bug.

If a user can change the value using the Value menu then it
should be possible to change it back again, _using the Value
menu_.

It makes no difference that there might be other ways to change
it back.  This bug is about using the Value menu (and then the
State menu).

The point of this bug is that using the Value menu is a one-way
street, exceptionally, in the case of this one option.  That's
not normal - why should this option be an exception to how
Emacs Customize works?  And if you change the value to short
or long there is no such problem.

Using the Value menu to change the value to no should make the
State menu disappear.  Period.  (And the State menu is used
for multiple purposes, not just to set the value for the
current session.)




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.
Added tag(s) notabug. Request was from npostavs@HIDDEN to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.
Severity set to 'minor' from 'normal' Request was from npostavs@HIDDEN to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2016 23:22:24 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 19:22:24 2016
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1bVoRc-0000Mm-M2
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:22:24 -0400
Received: from mail-it0-f52.google.com ([209.85.214.52]:36612)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <npostavs@HIDDEN>)
 id 1bVoRa-0000MU-Lg; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:22:23 -0400
Received: by mail-it0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x130so33946634ite.1;
 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:22:22 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
 h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id
 :user-agent:mime-version;
 bh=32rapBF9/MJ6lx7xTI0aiWGT/15KBCWi6jR6kcySmkM=;
 b=Yal2Ha8Sc+gMqrVTb82rFL/yjIpsHyhNKufQUnuse3wq2JxpeyV2vr3Hd3J8JOhmGh
 ZhDrPl2n9fQwvzTkvyjB18zwZw3JDLX4n95p6HTJzLw3YSr9Xr5tBLBrmCsWSlaerQIx
 2TnlaPWYVMa+LvyFwHhp7+cjdjYzTtAdGczZCIwvXrVdKLsjkSB6nLglC/Z/45Yf7eFT
 aob1xm1fY4MLH3F7m9BXz6d0fENa8QGPRm07DRu+rJUjoN1zKp9FfMa9x//nuuUdCvc0
 VYbN2Md+iw4X9WI+0TdvY9X6xnGD88mPXt8TzcrWDLvendSxSWqIX5xmIXMveGl+6BDL
 WiXA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
 d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
 h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date
 :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version;
 bh=32rapBF9/MJ6lx7xTI0aiWGT/15KBCWi6jR6kcySmkM=;
 b=IdtKfPmBJp40l9hMXbhysbdbYb1nYaRRBHQG3F+WReikfDELSs6uVqob0NSFGaCfjN
 FGQaiEhB26ZdfPHM8z7AzXYMrd2LCLlfI1YpTXjjeRcBtp8MuIWxOd1oeEO3G1/Zd0yF
 tGczbeHDSRu4thp22nYKUJXrwneEuffehh0fLBmCAgWEh2aWdHfS4DO8anr84dwIRtoe
 o1Fsce1C40V1evJODCfX3+HnXsAYjs/K66SCJaG9uLTTvsDwdCtoAMGNmK3lw5t/A/qy
 3P2TkD0vqirW/qb/6DSyzx8L/ZrUQ9+6CN8zmePPyNGLiAEkKwdQWxzZpsUFHe10rk5K
 janw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuSmt9M72pTHKNvSsgZLLZiYq7PSnc6zb9fuFUd/Au0WpSpj4Hqt2TXErEIIVP0+A==
X-Received: by 10.36.87.140 with SMTP id u134mr7515903ita.38.1470439337230;
 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from zony (206-188-64-44.cpe.distributel.net. [206.188.64.44])
 by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x184sm4867071ite.0.2016.08.05.16.22.16
 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: npostavs@HIDDEN
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#12065: 24.1;
 `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:22:24 -0400
In-Reply-To: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN> (Drew Adams's
 message of "Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:45:05 -0700")
Message-ID: <87h9ay94y7.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
Cc: 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)

severity 12065 minor
tags 12065 notabug
quit

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes:

> emacs -Q
>  
> M-x customize-option custom-magic-show
>  
> Change the value to "no" using Value Menu.
> Choose Set for Current Session.
>
> You can never change it back to another value, because there is no State
> button.

Apart from doing a setq manually, there is an "Apply" (it's labeled "Set
for current session" in 24.1) button at the top of the buffer.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.

Message received at 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at 12065) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2012 23:41:13 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 16 19:41:13 2012
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1TDOSe-0005bd-9U
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:41:12 -0400
Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:18695)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1TDOSb-0005bU-Ov
	for 12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:41:10 -0400
Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94])
	by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with
	ESMTP id q8GNduZm021346
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK)
	for <12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:39:57 GMT
Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157])
	by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id
	q8GNdtvM017990
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO)
	for <12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:39:56 GMT
Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61])
	by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id
	q8GNdtIJ006026
	for <12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:39:55 -0500
Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.170.142)
	by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0)
	with ESMTP ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:39:55 -0700
From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
To: <12065 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
References: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
Subject: RE: bug#12065: 24.1;
	`custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:39:44 -0700
Message-ID: <31980C7BB5554A0B93648411B7F8792A@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
In-Reply-To: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
Thread-Index: Ac1rqjXR5W7ig9h6Tc6vO6XjMy+anQoulMYw
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157
X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]
X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12065
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
	<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
	<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------)

ping





Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.

Message received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 03:52:11 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 26 23:52:10 2012
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42509 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1Subaz-0000gW-W9
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:52:10 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34417)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Subax-0000gP-Pc
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:52:08 -0400
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1SubUG-00010c-Ql
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:45:13 -0400
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,
	UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:45164)
	by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1SubUG-00010W-Nn
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:45:12 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48565)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1SubUF-0003Sd-LM
	for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:45:12 -0400
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1SubUE-0000x8-Bs
	for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:45:11 -0400
Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:25875)
	by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
	(envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1SubUE-0000uc-5J
	for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:45:10 -0400
Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238])
	by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with
	ESMTP id q6R3j7kW031109
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK)
	for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:45:08 GMT
Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157])
	by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id
	q6R3j7i2027052
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO)
	for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:45:07 GMT
Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66])
	by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id
	q6R3j6kC023818
	for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:45:07 -0500
Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44)
	by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0)
	with ESMTP ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:45:06 -0700
From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
Subject: 24.1; `custom-magic-show': set to "no", cannot get back again
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:45:05 -0700
Message-ID: <04EBBBCAD8654AC7B0EB2447BE595FEC@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157
Thread-Index: Ac1rqjXR5W7ig9h6Tc6vO6XjMy+anQ==
X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1)
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3)
X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17
X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
	<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
	<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------)

emacs -Q
 
M-x customize-option custom-magic-show
 
Change the value to "no" using Value Menu.
Choose Set for Current Session.

You can never change it back to another value, because there is no State
button.
 

In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2012-06-10 on MARVIN
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
Configured using:
 `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --cflags
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include
 -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include'
 





Acknowledgement sent to "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#12065; Package emacs. Full text available.
Please note: This is a static page, with minimal formatting, updated once a day.
Click here to see this page with the latest information and nicer formatting.
Last modified: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 07:30:02 UTC

GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-97 Ian Jackson.