Received: (at 12545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2012 16:26:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 08 11:26:42 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56269 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TWUwE-0008CG-Dd for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:26:42 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:49041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1TWUwC-0008C9-TB for 12545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:26:41 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu0/O+LEi/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgcBboJkEQDiEKacYFYgwc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="206743473" Received: from 206-248-177-34.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.177.34]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 08 Nov 2012 11:26:38 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A57F959780; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:26:37 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> To: Donald Curtis <dcurtis@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#12545: 24.2; Updating packages does not reload files. Message-ID: <jwvd2zogj2x.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <C98EED12-2212-423B-B712-409ABD0F7C75@HIDDEN> <jwvipau6zem.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <5ADB758B-8E17-4BFC-82C1-78C2BD758807@HIDDEN> <jwvmwys21c8.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <87ip9gwrcz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4FA1E951-808F-46B4-8271-82F6EE291E47@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:26:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4FA1E951-808F-46B4-8271-82F6EE291E47@HIDDEN> (Donald Curtis's message of "Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:10:13 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12545 Cc: 12545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > But this does not address the problem of reloading files that are out > of date. No, indeed, it just reduces the pain due to not reloading them. > The problem being how to upgrade packages and then have those packages get > updated to their new versions without actually restarting Emacs. In general this is not possible right now (e.g. any defvars will keep using the value from the old version; removed functions and vars might linger around; ...). We could provide the option to "try to reload and cross your fingers". We could also provide "try to unload-feature, cross your fingers, and then reload". Stefan
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Full text available.Received: (at 12545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2012 15:10:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 08 10:10:20 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56221 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TWTkK-0006Sg-4V for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:10:20 -0500 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:60865) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <dcurtis@HIDDEN>) id 1TWTkH-0006SY-G6 for 12545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:10:18 -0500 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDCE20DA6; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:10:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=smtpout; bh=NbvrVsPjkwKaThyVZ9I7GSIr01c=; b=ao maXEdC6YCBpoNUAlJpjzhSAFQiBs5ugmrgFl7bokbfAcsDFmtNqoEKtzym4jCoq4 k/7WdK9n4cmJlqhGEONJv1Y7aJBV1xThZhFrAPht8sdhfHq1GFqxn9yDVulqySM2 QDW3vFSGg6Ds/iH4NcjWDC4lNaLEgVNUoKbgoxbzQ= X-Sasl-enc: MVKi2O5JExEAH2KRaAP6xiH2qk7c9SDZGR4Ro4fCVuSj 1352387414 Received: from [172.16.14.104] (unknown [192.133.84.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 41F598E04F1; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:10:14 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: bug#12545: 24.2; Updating packages does not reload files. From: Donald Curtis <dcurtis@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87ip9gwrcz.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:10:13 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4FA1E951-808F-46B4-8271-82F6EE291E47@HIDDEN> References: <C98EED12-2212-423B-B712-409ABD0F7C75@HIDDEN> <jwvipau6zem.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <5ADB758B-8E17-4BFC-82C1-78C2BD758807@HIDDEN> <jwvmwys21c8.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <87ip9gwrcz.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12545 Cc: 12545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Stefan, But this does not address the problem of reloading files that are out of = date. The problem being how to upgrade packages and then have those packages = get updated to their new versions without actually restarting Emacs. Donald On Nov 8, 2012, at 00:17, Thierry Volpiatto = <thierry.volpiatto@HIDDEN> wrote: > Hi Stefan, >=20 > Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 >> Thierry, why do you use byte-compile-dynamic everywhere? > I used this when I splitted helm in many files and enabled autoload > everywhere to speed up start of helm, but indeed I had lot of = annoyances > with this and didn't remove it by laziness. > I will remove this as soon as possible. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > --=20 > Thierry > Get my Gnupg key: > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997=20
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Full text available.Received: (at 12545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 14:28:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 10:28:52 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TIgzM-0000b2-5N for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:28:52 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:33348) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1TIgzK-0000av-LU for 12545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:28:50 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLT4/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHAW6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200375281" Received: from 69-196-180-248.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([69.196.180.248]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 01 Oct 2012 10:28:23 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E066CAE1FB; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:28:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> To: Donald Ephraim Curtis <dcurtis@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#12545: 24.2; Updating packages does not reload files. Message-ID: <jwvipau6zem.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <C98EED12-2212-423B-B712-409ABD0F7C75@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:28:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <C98EED12-2212-423B-B712-409ABD0F7C75@HIDDEN> (Donald Ephraim Curtis's message of "Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:49:37 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12545 Cc: 12545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > kill-emacs: Cannot open doc string file > "/Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-20120921.1208/helm-adaptative.elc" Can you reproduce the problem and give us a backtrace? Failing to find the docstring should usually be caught close to the call to `documentation'. Stefan
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Message-Id: <C98EED12-2212-423B-B712-409ABD0F7C75@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:49:37 -0500 To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) package.el supports an "upgrade" feature from `package-list-packages' that installs a new version of a package and removes the old one. I updated the `helm' package on my system and you can see that when trying to kill emacs, there is a problem where the hook seems to be trying to execute a function but cannot find the doc string file. This is because the directories are named after the version. =20 kill-emacs: Cannot open doc string file = "/Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-20120921.1208/helm-adaptative.elc" It would be nice to have package.el somehow reload the package files. In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin12.1.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 = AppKit 1187) of 2012-09-02 on bird.local Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.8.2 Configured using: `configure '--prefix=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.2' '--without-dbus' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--infodir=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.2/share/info/emacs' '--with-mac' '--enable-mac-app=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.2'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: helm-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t helm-match-plugin-mode: t global-undo-tree-mode: t undo-tree-mode: t ido-ubiquitous-mode: t ido-everywhere: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t recentf-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mac-mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: SPC b e c a u s e SPC t h e SPC v <backspace> d i r=20 e c t o r i e s SPC a r e SPC n a m e d SPC a f t e=20 r SPC t e h SPC v e r <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>=20 <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> h e r SPC <backspace>=20 <backspace> SPC v e r s i o n . SPC S-SPC T h i s SPC=20 i SPC <backspace> s SPC f i n e SPC b u t SPC b a s=20 i c a l l y C-w C-w a n d SPC n o r m a l C-w C-w C-w=20 C-w C-w C-n C-n C-n C-e <return> <return> C-o I t SPC=20 w o u l d SPC b e SPC n i c e SPC t o SPC h a v e SPC=20 p a c k a g e . e l SPC s o m e h o w SPC C-p C-k C-e=20 u p d a t e C-n C-SPC C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20 C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-g C-n C-n=20 C-n C-e SPC t h e SPC p a <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>=20 <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>=20 <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>=20 r e l o a d - <backspace> SPC t h e SPC p a c k a g=20 e SPC f i l e s . C-n C-SPC C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20 C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-p C-p C-p M-w C-c C-g C-x k <return> y C-x RET r=20 e p o r t SPC b u g C-g C-g C-x 1 C-x RET <return> Recent messages: Auto-saving...done Mark set Auto-saving...done Mark set Quit Auto-saving...done Mark activated Buffer *unsent mail to mituharu* modified; kill anyway? (y or n) y Quit Quit Load-path shadows: /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120924.1839/.dir-locals hides = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/magit-20120926.1706/.dir-locals ~/.emacs.d/custom hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.2/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/custom /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/python-20120924.1710/python hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.2/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/progmodes/python /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120924.1839/.dir-locals hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.2/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/gnus/.dir-locals Features: (newcomment shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail birds-of-paradise-plus-theme-autoloads helm-imenu semantic/util-modes semantic/util semantic semantic/tag semantic/lex semantic/fw mode-local cedet org ob-emacs-lisp ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table org-footnote org-src ob-comint ob-keys ob ob-eval org-pcomplete org-list org-faces org-compat org-entities org-macs noutline outline cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs imenu derived helm-elisp helm-eval eldoc bookmark pp easy-mmode autoload tar-mode mule-util time-stamp mail-utils network-stream starttls url-cache url-http tls mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums url-gw url-auth ibuf-ext ibuffer helm-command misearch multi-isearch vc-git paredit dropdown-list yasnippet whitespace melpa cyberpunk-theme helm-mode helm-files image-dired tramp tramp-compat shell pcomplete format-spec tramp-loaddefs dired-x dired-aux ffap helm-buffers helm-elscreen helm-tags helm-bookmark helm-adaptative helm-info helm-net browse-url xml url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-util url-parse auth-source assoc gnus-util password-cache url-vars mm-util mail-prsvr mailcap helm-plugin helm-locate helm-help helm-match-plugin helm-grep helm-regexp grep helm-external helm-utils dired compile comint ansi-color helm cus-start cus-load mmm-auto mmm-vars mmm-compat auto-complete-config auto-complete popup undo-tree diff smex ido-ubiquitous ido winner ring paren savehist autorevert edmacro kmacro server defun uniquify saveplace recentf tree-widget wid-edit misc midnight checkdoc regexp-opt thingatpt help-mode view ace-jump-mode-autoloads auctex-autoloads tex-site info easymenu auto-complete-autoloads browse-kill-ring-autoloads change-inner-autoloads color-theme-sanityinc-tomorrow-autoloads csv-mode-autoloads cyberpunk-theme-autoloads deft-autoloads diminish-autoloads ein-autoloads evil-autoloads evil-numbers-autoloads expand-region-autoloads find-file-in-project-autoloads findr-autoloads gist-autoloads gh-autoloads eieio helm-autoloads ido-ubiquitous-autoloads inflections-autoloads jump-char-autoloads logito-autoloads magit-autoloads mark-multiple-autoloads markdown-mode+-autoloads markdown-mode-autoloads melpa-autoloads byte-opt warnings bytecomp byte-compile cconv macroexp advice help-fns advice-preload mmm-mode-autoloads multiple-cursors-autoloads nrepl-autoloads clojure-mode-autoloads paredit-autoloads pcache-autoloads finder-inf popup-autoloads powerline-autoloads powerline python-autoloads smart-mode-line-autoloads smex-autoloads surround-autoloads twilight-anti-bright-theme-autoloads twilight-bright-theme-autoloads twilight-theme-autoloads undo-tree-autoloads virtualenv-autoloads websocket-autoloads yasnippet-autoloads package tabulated-list cl time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel mac-win tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote mac multi-tty make-network-process emacs)
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