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I was prompted to look up this thread by a deprecation message for "tempfile" from Victor Porton's "inplace" script, which I still use! Not yet unfortunately
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Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000002b9a3605e8766415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 16 May 2016 at 15:42, P=C3=A1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > > I just don't have the time at present to complete this. > > I did implement ACID file replacement using POSIX APIs a while ago in: > https://github.com/pixelb/crudini > The commit messages there have details on fsync()ing requirements etc. > > Implementation in C in coreutils could also use other APIs where availabl= e > like renameat2(..., RENAME_EXCHANGE) and exchangedata() etc. > I noticed XFS_IOC_SWAPEXT but that's currently hardcoded > to support only same sized replacements (for defragment apps). > I was thinking of providing a wrapper for exchangedata() in gnulib, > which could be leveraged where available or falling back to > the current POSIX APIs. > Did you get any further? I was prompted to look up this thread by a deprecation message for "tempfile" from Victor Porton's "inplace" script, which I still use! --=20 https://rrt.sc3d.org --0000000000002b9a3605e8766415 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail= _attr">On Mon, 16 May 2016 at 15:42, P=C3=A1draig Brady <<a href=3D"mail= to:P@HIDDEN">P@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c= lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli= d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> I just don't have the time at present to complete this.<br> <br> I did implement ACID file replacement using POSIX APIs a while ago in:<br> <a href=3D"https://github.com/pixelb/crudini" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"= _blank">https://github.com/pixelb/crudini</a><br> The commit messages there have details on fsync()ing requirements etc.<br> <br> Implementation in C in coreutils could also use other APIs where available<= br> like renameat2(..., RENAME_EXCHANGE) and exchangedata() etc.<br> I noticed XFS_IOC_SWAPEXT but that's currently hardcoded<br> to support only same sized replacements (for defragment apps).<br> I was thinking of providing a wrapper for exchangedata() in gnulib,<br> which could be leveraged where available or falling back to<br> the current POSIX APIs.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-f= amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">D= id you get any further? I was prompted to look up this thread by a deprecat= ion message for "tempfile" from Victor Porton's "inplace= " script, which I still use!<br></div></div><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr= " class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href= =3D"https://rrt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">https://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div><= /div></div></div></div> --0000000000002b9a3605e8766415--
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
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Full text available.Received: (at 13028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2016 14:42:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 16 10:42:25 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53860 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1b2Jiz-0006NR-Hg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 10:42:25 -0400 Received: from mail.magicbluesmoke.com ([82.195.144.49]:53035) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <P@HIDDEN>) id 1b2Jix-0006NI-1G for 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 10:42:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.80] (unknown [109.79.122.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.magicbluesmoke.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95DECAD; Mon, 16 May 2016 15:42:21 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: bug#13028: inplace To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> References: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> <50B780AD.6080704@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojwq2-OsujxZvuSpb1fc2_b3Z4-A57XTQ0Sg37scBiHhw@HIDDEN> <50B7B486.60401@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdohUcWyc3fUTK83K=jjQPdQjgBZtTz7L=_odSv6NbQkuyA@HIDDEN> <5739CE2C.60500@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojAtw3872xT59seGeO4ZaWF9o-kqkWufEW7fZJ22jFXRg@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=c3=a1draig_Brady?= <P@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <5739DC4C.5030309@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:42:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdojAtw3872xT59seGeO4ZaWF9o-kqkWufEW7fZJ22jFXRg@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13028 Cc: 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 16/05/16 14:47, Reuben Thomas wrote: > On 16 May 2016 at 14:42, Pádraig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > >> On 16/05/16 14:15, Reuben Thomas wrote: >> >>> >>> Did this get anywhere? >>> >> >> Nothing public unfortunately. > > > Are there difficulties one might be able to help with? I just don't have the time at present to complete this. I did implement ACID file replacement using POSIX APIs a while ago in: https://github.com/pixelb/crudini The commit messages there have details on fsync()ing requirements etc. Implementation in C in coreutils could also use other APIs where available like renameat2(..., RENAME_EXCHANGE) and exchangedata() etc. I noticed XFS_IOC_SWAPEXT but that's currently hardcoded to support only same sized replacements (for defragment apps). I was thinking of providing a wrapper for exchangedata() in gnulib, which could be leveraged where available or falling back to the current POSIX APIs. thanks, Pádraig
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
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Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --94eb2c06fad63cff3e0532f5dde7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16 May 2016 at 14:42, P=C3=A1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > On 16/05/16 14:15, Reuben Thomas wrote: > >> >> =E2=80=8BDid this get anywhere? >> > > Nothing public unfortunately. =E2=80=8BAre there difficulties one might be able to help with? --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --94eb2c06fad63cff3e0532f5dde7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">On = 16 May 2016 at 14:42, P=C3=A1draig Brady <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m= ailto:P@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">P@HIDDEN</a>></span> w= rote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><block= quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc= solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 16/05/16 14:15, Reuben Thomas = wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> =E2=80=8BDid this get anywhere?<br> </blockquote> <br></span> Nothing public unfortunately.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D= "gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8BAre there= difficulties one might be able to help with?</div></div></div><div><br></d= iv>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><a href=3D"http://rrt.sc3d.org" ta= rget=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div> </div></div> --94eb2c06fad63cff3e0532f5dde7--
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 13028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2016 13:42:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 16 09:42:17 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53400 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1b2Imn-0004it-Ax for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 09:42:17 -0400 Received: from mail.magicbluesmoke.com ([82.195.144.49]:52889) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <P@HIDDEN>) id 1b2Imk-0004ik-PI for 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 09:42:15 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.80] (unknown [109.79.122.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.magicbluesmoke.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B0CFAD; Mon, 16 May 2016 14:42:13 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: bug#13028: inplace To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> References: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> <50B780AD.6080704@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojwq2-OsujxZvuSpb1fc2_b3Z4-A57XTQ0Sg37scBiHhw@HIDDEN> <50B7B486.60401@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdohUcWyc3fUTK83K=jjQPdQjgBZtTz7L=_odSv6NbQkuyA@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=c3=a1draig_Brady?= <P@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <5739CE2C.60500@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:42:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdohUcWyc3fUTK83K=jjQPdQjgBZtTz7L=_odSv6NbQkuyA@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13028 Cc: 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 16/05/16 14:15, Reuben Thomas wrote: > On 29 November 2012 at 19:16, Pádraig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > >> On 11/29/2012 07:03 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: >> >>> On 29 November 2012 15:35, Pádraig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I definitely think this is worthwhile. >>>> >>>> >>> Great! >>> >>> >>> Where to put such a script is an issue. >>>> We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level >>>> scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/ >>>> Translations in the shell script was one thing that was >>>> I was wondering about, which I need to look at. >>>> >>>> >>> Is there a reason it can't be shipped so it'll install as part of >>> coreutils? >>> >> >> Well contrib/ in upstream to be installed in standard locations. >> >> rewrite is my favorite name so far. >>>> >>>> >>> It sounds better, but I'd favour "inplace" as it's the term used by most >>> utilities, like Perl and sed, that already provide such a built-in >>> facility, and is hence more easily discovered. >>> >> >> Previous notes on naming: >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00238.html >> >> "rewrite" is more descriptive as a verb as to what is actually happening. >> We can finalize on the naming anyway when we have the implementation >> sorted. >> > > Did this get anywhere? Nothing public unfortunately. Pádraig
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
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Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --94eb2c043626fdcace0532f569d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 November 2012 at 19:16, P=C3=A1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > On 11/29/2012 07:03 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: > >> On 29 November 2012 15:35, P=C3=A1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: >> >> >>> I definitely think this is worthwhile. >>> >>> >> Great! >> >> >> Where to put such a script is an issue. >>> We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level >>> scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/ >>> Translations in the shell script was one thing that was >>> I was wondering about, which I need to look at. >>> >>> >> Is there a reason it can't be shipped so it'll install as part of >> coreutils? >> > > Well contrib/ in upstream to be installed in standard locations. > > rewrite is my favorite name so far. >>> >>> >> It sounds better, but I'd favour "inplace" as it's the term used by most >> utilities, like Perl and sed, that already provide such a built-in >> facility, and is hence more easily discovered. >> > > Previous notes on naming: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00238.html > > "rewrite" is more descriptive as a verb as to what is actually happening. > We can finalize on the naming anyway when we have the implementation > sorted. > =E2=80=8BDid this get anywhere? --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --94eb2c043626fdcace0532f569d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">On = 29 November 2012 at 19:16, P=C3=A1draig Brady <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:P@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">P@HIDDEN</a>></sp= an> wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 11/29/2012 07:03 PM, Reub= en Thomas wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 29 November 2012 15:35, P=C3=A1draig Brady <<a href=3D"mailto:P@draig= brady.com" target=3D"_blank">P@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> I definitely think this is worthwhile.<br> <br> </blockquote> <br> Great!<br> <br> <br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Where to put such a script is an issue.<br> We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level<br> scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/<br> Translations in the shell script was one thing that was<br> I was wondering about, which I need to look at.<br> <br> </blockquote> <br> Is there a reason it can't be shipped so it'll install as part of c= oreutils?<br> </blockquote> <br></span> Well contrib/ in upstream to be installed in standard locations.<span class= =3D""><br> <br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> rewrite is my favorite name so far.<br> <br> </blockquote> <br> It sounds better, but I'd favour "inplace" as it's the te= rm used by most<br> utilities, like Perl and sed, that already provide such a built-in<br> facility, and is hence more easily discovered.<br> </blockquote> <br></span> Previous notes on naming:<br> <a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00238= .html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/archive/ht= ml/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00238.html</a><br> <br> "rewrite" is more descriptive as a verb as to what is actually ha= ppening.<br> We can finalize on the naming anyway when we have the implementation sorted= .<br></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"= gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=E2=80=8BDid this get anywhere?</d= iv><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><a href=3D"http://r= rt.sc3d.org" target=3D"_blank">http://rrt.sc3d.org</a></div> </div></div> --94eb2c043626fdcace0532f569d2--
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 13028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2012 13:53:28 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 30 08:53:28 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TeR20-0004dT-19 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:53:28 -0500 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:57453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <dwheeler@HIDDEN>) id 1TeR1u-0004dJ-CV for 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:53:24 -0500 Received: from [10.9.9.131] (helo=fenris.runbox.com) by bars.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <dwheeler@HIDDEN>) id 1TeQzq-0006kh-Dl; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:51:14 +0100 Received: from mail by fenris.runbox.com with local (Exim 4.50) id 1TeQzs-0005qD-1Q; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:51:16 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [66.170.239.204] by secure.runbox.com with http (uid:258406) (RMM 4.0); Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:51:16 GMT From: "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> To: P@HIDDEN Subject: Re: bug#13028: inplace Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:51:16 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: RMM References: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> <50B780AD.6080704@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <50B780AD.6080704@HIDDEN> Message-Id: <E1TeQzs-0005qD-1Q@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13028 Cc: 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rrt@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: dwheeler@HIDDEN List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) > On 11/29/2012 03:20 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: > > On Fri, 14 May 2004 15:53:04 +0600 (YEKST), Victor Porton offered his h= andy "inplace" script to coreutils, which runs a filter on a file in-place.= .. P=E1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> said: > I definitely think this is worthwhile. > In fact I mostly finished such a script here > that would handle all the atomic, backup, permissions, etc.: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00213.html > See also: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/unix_file_replacement.html ... > Also I was wondering what to call it. rp, inplace, replace, ... > and in the meantime I noticed David Wheeler proposed much the same thing > with the "rewrite" util: > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.standards.posix.austin.general/5348 ... > I'll work on this script after I finish a pending > SELinux patchset I'm working on. I'm delighted to hear that people are working this... thank you! A request: Please make sure you include single-letter flags for key options= ; that'll help get it into the POSIX spec. People are more likely to use t= ools like these if their interface is "available everywhere", and I think g= etting it (eventually) into the POSIX spec would help make that happen. Also, please maximally steal useful syntax/examples/ideas from: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.standards.posix.austin.general/5348 My hope is that this in-place edit tool will just "do the job well". --- David A. Wheeler
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 13028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2012 19:18:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 29 14:18:39 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Te9d4-0000MS-84 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:18:38 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:37408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <P@HIDDEN>) id 1Te9cx-0000ME-UH for 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:18:32 -0500 Received: from int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.25]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qATJGPEi009471 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:16:25 -0500 Received: from [10.36.116.83] (ovpn-116-83.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.83]) by int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qATJGNO4007176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:16:24 -0500 Message-ID: <50B7B486.60401@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:16:22 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady?= <P@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13028: inplace References: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> <50B780AD.6080704@HIDDEN> <CAOnWdojwq2-OsujxZvuSpb1fc2_b3Z4-A57XTQ0Sg37scBiHhw@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdojwq2-OsujxZvuSpb1fc2_b3Z4-A57XTQ0Sg37scBiHhw@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.25 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.redhat.com id qATJGPEi009471 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13028 Cc: 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 11/29/2012 07:03 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: > On 29 November 2012 15:35, P=E1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > >> >> I definitely think this is worthwhile. >> > > Great! > > >> Where to put such a script is an issue. >> We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level >> scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/ >> Translations in the shell script was one thing that was >> I was wondering about, which I need to look at. >> > > Is there a reason it can't be shipped so it'll install as part of coreu= tils? Well contrib/ in upstream to be installed in standard locations. >> rewrite is my favorite name so far. >> > > It sounds better, but I'd favour "inplace" as it's the term used by mos= t > utilities, like Perl and sed, that already provide such a built-in > facility, and is hence more easily discovered. Previous notes on naming: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00238.html "rewrite" is more descriptive as a verb as to what is actually happening. We can finalize on the naming anyway when we have the implementation sort= ed. thanks, P=E1draig.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
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Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) --047d7b33cf6a6ce89c04cfa6ef3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 November 2012 15:35, P=E1draig Brady <P@HIDDEN> wrote: > > I definitely think this is worthwhile. > Great! > Where to put such a script is an issue. > We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level > scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/ > Translations in the shell script was one thing that was > I was wondering about, which I need to look at. > Is there a reason it can't be shipped so it'll install as part of coreutils= ? > rewrite is my favorite name so far. > It sounds better, but I'd favour "inplace" as it's the term used by most utilities, like Perl and sed, that already provide such a built-in facility, and is hence more easily discovered. > I'll work on this script after I finish a pending > SELinux patchset I'm working on. Great! --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org --047d7b33cf6a6ce89c04cfa6ef3b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 November 2012 15:35, P=E1draig Brady <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D= "mailto:P@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">P@HIDDEN</a>></span>= wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot= e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol= id;padding-left:1ex"> <br> I definitely think this is worthwhile.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>= Great!</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= :0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Where to put such = a script is an issue.<br> We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level<br> scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/<br> Translations in the shell script was one thing that was<br> I was wondering about, which I need to look at.<br></blockquote><div><br></= div><div>Is there a reason it can't be shipped so it'll install as = part of coreutils?</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty= le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> rewrite is my favorite name so far.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It = sounds better, but I'd favour "inplace" as it's the term = used by most utilities, like Perl and sed, that already provide such a buil= t-in facility, and is hence more easily discovered.</div> <div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;= border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I'll work on this script after I finish a pending<br> SELinux patchset I'm working on.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Great!= </div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><a href=3D"http://rrt.sc3d.org">http://rr= t.sc3d.org</a><br> </div> --047d7b33cf6a6ce89c04cfa6ef3b--
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 13028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2012 15:38:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 29 10:38:55 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Te6CV-0002eh-44 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:38:55 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:1965) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <P@HIDDEN>) id 1Te6CR-0002eW-Jw for 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:38:53 -0500 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qATFao7p002474 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:36:50 -0500 Received: from [10.36.116.83] (ovpn-116-83.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.83]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qATFamk4013110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:36:50 -0500 Message-ID: <50B78110.9040608@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:36:48 +0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?UMOhZHJhaWcgQnJhZHk=?= <P@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13028: inplace References: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> <201211291632.25608.sweet_f_a@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <201211291632.25608.sweet_f_a@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.redhat.com id qATFao7p002474 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13028 Cc: 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) On 11/29/2012 03:32 PM, Ruediger Meier wrote: > On Thursday 29 November 2012, Reuben Thomas wrote: >> On Fri, 14 May 2004 15:53:04 +0600 (YEKST), Victor Porton offered his >> handy "inplace" script to coreutils, which runs a filter on a file >> in-place. A couple of replies said there was no need for this as one >> could do in-place editing with perl or sed, but I think that was >> misguided, as the point of inplace is that it works with any filter. >> I just used it with xml_grep: >> >> inplace "xml_grep --exclude 'ul[@class=3D\"toc\"]' \"\$IN\" > >> \"\$OUT\"" "$book.xhtml" >> >> I attach an updated version of inplace with some bashisms and typos >> fixed. > > You may also have a look at sponge from moreutils project > http://linux.die.net/man/1/sponge > http://joeyh.name/code/moreutils/ sponge is good, but doesn't quite cut it. See point 6 at: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/unix_file_replacement.html thanks, P=C3=A1draig.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 13028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2012 15:37:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 29 10:37:28 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45337 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Te6B0-0002cG-32 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:37:27 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:62599) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <P@HIDDEN>) id 1Te6Av-0002c4-83 for 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:37:19 -0500 Received: from int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qATFZCMm001934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:35:15 -0500 Received: from [10.36.116.83] (ovpn-116-83.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.83]) by int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qATFZ9Ke003538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:35:11 -0500 Message-ID: <50B780AD.6080704@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:35:09 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady?= <P@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13028: inplace References: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdog-3wBokdqgZZDaXs=wp8cvn3asTpp3NFmtokohAQ-WJw@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.redhat.com id qATFZCMm001934 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13028 Cc: 13028 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 11/29/2012 03:20 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: > On Fri, 14 May 2004 15:53:04 +0600 (YEKST), Victor Porton offered his h= andy "inplace" script to coreutils, which runs a filter on a file in-plac= e. A couple of replies said there was no need for this as one could do in= -place editing with perl or sed, but I think that was misguided, as the p= oint of inplace is that it works with any filter. I just used it with xml= _grep: > > inplace "xml_grep --exclude 'ul[@class=3D\"toc\"]' \"\$IN\" > \"\$OUT\"= " "$book.xhtml" > > I attach an updated version of inplace with some bashisms and typos fix= ed. > I definitely think this is worthwhile. In fact I mostly finished such a script here that would handle all the atomic, backup, permissions, etc.: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2010-03/msg00213.html See also: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/unix_file_replacement.html Where to put such a script is an issue. We were thinking of a contrib/ folder for higher level scripts like this that could leverage coreutils/ Translations in the shell script was one thing that was I was wondering about, which I need to look at. Also I was wondering what to call it. rp, inplace, replace, ... and in the meantime I noticed David Wheeler proposed much the same thing with the "rewrite" util: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.standards.posix.austin.general/5348 rewrite is my favorite name so far. I'll work on this script after I finish a pending SELinux patchset I'm working on. thanks, P=E1draig.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
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bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#13028; Package coreutils.
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A couple of replies said there was no need for this as one could do in-place editing with perl or sed, but I think that was misguided, as the point of inplace is that it works with any filter. I just used it with xml_grep: inplace "xml_grep --exclude 'ul[@class=\"toc\"]' \"\$IN\" > \"\$OUT\"" "$book.xhtml" I attach an updated version of inplace with some bashisms and typos fixed. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --e89a8f923f50dbface04cfa3d32d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On=A0Fri, 14 May 2004 15:53:04 +0600 (YEKST), Victor Porton offered his han= dy "inplace" script to coreutils, which runs a filter on a file i= n-place. A couple of replies said there was no need for this as one could d= o in-place editing with perl or sed, but I think that was misguided, as the= point of inplace is that it works with any filter. 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