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24.2.91; dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH

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From: Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.2.91; dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:01:14 +0000 (GMT)

The interactive form of dired-goto-file reads a file name using
read-file-name.  Arg MUSMATCH of this call is nil, though.  This does
not make sense to me.  I think this arg should be t.

        Christopher

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From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91;
	dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:06:35 +0100

Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com> writes:

> The interactive form of dired-goto-file reads a file name using
> read-file-name.  Arg MUSMATCH of this call is nil, though.  This does
> not make sense to me.  I think this arg should be t.

The file may not exist any more, but still listed in the dired buffer.

Andreas.

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From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91;
	dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:08:58 +0100

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Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com> writes:

> The interactive form of dired-goto-file reads a file name using
> read-file-name.  Arg MUSMATCH of this call is nil, though.  This does
> not make sense to me.  I think this arg should be t.

Agreed.  This trivial patch does this.

This is not really a bug to me, so I'm not sure if this should go
to emacs-24 or to trunk.  I'll let another maintainer decide on this.

Thanks,

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-- 
 Bastien

Message #14 received at 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91;
	dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:10:05 +0100

Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org> writes:

> Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com> writes:
>
>> The interactive form of dired-goto-file reads a file name using
>> read-file-name.  Arg MUSMATCH of this call is nil, though.  This does
>> not make sense to me.  I think this arg should be t.
>
> The file may not exist any more, but still listed in the dired buffer.

Why would a user put the cursor on that file on this case?

-- 
 Bastien

Message #17 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91;
	dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:15:48 +0000 (GMT)

Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org> writes:
> Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com> writes:
>
>> The interactive form of dired-goto-file reads a file name using
>> read-file-name.  Arg MUSMATCH of this call is nil, though.  This does
>> not make sense to me.  I think this arg should be t.
>
> The file may not exist any more, but still listed in the dired buffer.

I see your point, although this is an odd corner case.

I am still in favour of changing the argument to t so one gets implicit
completion of incomplete filenames.  E.g. j in RET would jump to my
init.el if I am direding my .emacs.d.

Maybe completing-read could be used here, completing to all filenames in
the dired buffer?  That's seems like a useful idea considering
virtual-dired and find-dired.

        Christopher

Message #20 received at 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
Cc: 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91;
	dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:27:31 +0100

Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:

> Why would a user put the cursor on that file on this case?

Why not?

Andreas.

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Message #23 received at 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91;
	dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil MUSTMATCH
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:36:39 +0100

Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org> writes:

> Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:
>
>> Why would a user put the cursor on that file on this case?
>
> Why not?

Someone offers to take you to a place, you accept, he takes
you to that place; you're entitled to think the place exists,
aren't you?

If `dired-goto-file' takes you to a file, you're led into
thinking this file exists, which is wrong.

In fact, perhaps dired could highlight non-existing files
on the fly.

-- 
 Bastien

Message #26 received at 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 13242 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13242: 24.2.91; dired-goto-file: read-file-name with nil
 MUSTMATCH
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:00:11 +0200

Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org> writes:

> Christopher Schmidt <christopher <at> ch.ristopher.com> writes:
>
>> The interactive form of dired-goto-file reads a file name using
>> read-file-name.  Arg MUSMATCH of this call is nil, though.  This does
>> not make sense to me.  I think this arg should be t.
>
> The file may not exist any more, but still listed in the dired buffer.

I think that's a good point, and the dired command should allow you to
jump there anyway.  So I don't think there's anything to fix here, and
I'm closing this bug report.

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