Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2013 20:18:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 05 15:18:42 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32990 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1UCyJl-0003aR-QL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:18:37 -0500 Received: from mx.scalarmail.ca ([98.158.95.75]:64943 helo=ironport-01.sms.scalar.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <prvs=nbowler=76955d3fc@HIDDEN>) id 1UCyJi-0003Zo-OL for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:18:32 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO sms-zimbra-mta-01.sms.scalar.ca) ([192.168.32.56]) by ironport-01.sms.scalar.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2013 15:18:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sms-zimbra-mta-01.sms.scalar.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE77EDBBCE; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from sms-zimbra-mta-01.sms.scalar.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sms-zimbra-mta-01.sms.scalar.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VQXmvw32JySo; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ellipticsemi.com (dsl-67-204-24-19.acanac.net [67.204.24.19]) (Authenticated sender: nbowler@HIDDEN) by sms-zimbra-mta-01.sms.scalar.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5821DBB9E; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:18:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:18:01 -0500 From: Nick Bowler <nbowler@HIDDEN> To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... Message-ID: <20130305201801.GA6773@HIDDEN> References: <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> <51068355.6010904@HIDDEN> <510EC9AA.5000204@HIDDEN> <513608AF.50005@HIDDEN> <201303051943.r25JhSSN001260@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201303051943.r25JhSSN001260@HIDDEN> Organization: Elliptic Technologies Inc. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>, automake-patches@HIDDEN, 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 2013-03-05 14:43 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > I won't hold you up. Since none of my folks thought it important > enough to take the time to test it, please just back-burner it. If > someone here needs the patch, they know where to find it. FWIW I tried to setup a DOS/DJGPP environment for testing but never managed to get past the /dev/null problems described on the comp.os.msdos.djgpp newsgroup: Subject: Re: Reading /dev/null seems broken. Message-ID: <kd54do$hu8$1@HIDDEN> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/okhH1hvBXDM/ugOABoho1V8J Cheers, -- Nick Bowler, Elliptic Technologies (http://www.elliptictech.com/)
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2013 19:58:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 05 14:58:49 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1UCy0e-00028V-EU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:58:48 -0500 Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:35273) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1UCy0c-00028B-BV; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:58:47 -0500 Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id q16so115330bkw.0 for <multiple recipients>; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:58:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CIJIKHCoqjLJmCDbDyLb1qzc+Y0LLNhbjTZXDgeGqTk=; b=JF3KmdFTjvMDDylmiKaSek1YVDkFTE4mWhTIpNRwpMKAmUg2u5HgeBhy0UKtd1QR6l WP+A4kicVTpzPKMtFtR1Jvr2qxKhpmWnLD/COUg146cPDk5N4KdCsUh1qhvoBYNN2SQr 9xUCF1GEtbdEaOydhhRObgh+Np/hszWodFdank8Rxwd3sVTxrzYHViLhnazwPJ0BzAtY aj4oT6JV8dNXkLoaSBwUSl8F9Ron16cKJF+/VSlbRTglhFWaKfZNoJroxO0bjDVWepow wIdSzHnp5uCx2uBb2hhcM6Rg5Pm5und8YVHIBHzjpPt+fOOivZ+VG5frKxPRxnVqoYHH cWPQ== X-Received: by 10.204.147.81 with SMTP id k17mr9980518bkv.70.1362513498349; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gu14sm7590614bkc.1.2013.03.05.11.58.15 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:58:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51364E55.7030104@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:58:13 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> <51068355.6010904@HIDDEN> <510EC9AA.5000204@HIDDEN> <513608AF.50005@HIDDEN> <201303051943.r25JhSSN001260@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <201303051943.r25JhSSN001260@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: automake-patches@HIDDEN, 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 13435 + moreinfo patch thanks On 03/05/2013 08:43 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > I won't hold you up. Since none of my folks thought it important > enough to take the time to test it, please just back-burner it. If > someone here needs the patch, they know where to find it. > OK. I just find it a pity to throw away DJGPP support at this point, since it turned out that the code needed to support it was really simple after all. Anyway, in the meantime I'm marking this report as "more info needed" (where such info is the result of the needed test exposure). I'll close the report as "wontfix" a couple of months in the future if nobody has reported anything by then. Thanks, and best regards, Stefano
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2013 19:44:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 05 14:44:00 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1UCxmK-0001nR-3g for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:44:00 -0500 Received: from delorie.com ([65.175.133.15]:39274) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <dj@HIDDEN>) id 1UCxmG-0001nJ-HP for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:43:57 -0500 Received: from envy.delorie.com (envy [172.31.3.1]) by delorie.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r25JhUcX018508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:43:34 -0500 Received: from envy.delorie.com (envy.delorie.com [127.0.0.1]) by envy.delorie.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r25JhTLl001261; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:43:29 -0500 Received: (from dj@localhost) by envy.delorie.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r25JhSSN001260; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:43:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:43:28 -0500 Message-Id: <201303051943.r25JhSSN001260@HIDDEN> From: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> To: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <513608AF.50005@HIDDEN> (message from Stefano Lattarini on Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:01:03 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> <51068355.6010904@HIDDEN> <510EC9AA.5000204@HIDDEN> <513608AF.50005@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: automake-patches@HIDDEN, 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) I won't hold you up. Since none of my folks thought it important enough to take the time to test it, please just back-burner it. If someone here needs the patch, they know where to find it. Thanks!
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2013 15:01:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 05 10:01:48 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1UCtN7-0001aQ-Fm for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:01:48 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]:64382) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1UCtMz-0001Zz-1G for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:01:39 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id d46so2104062wer.17 for <13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:01:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3O7cWOuK6ZAHNDYtK2d3R2CeHIDEEUx+6kqCPyrhbwY=; b=AM4OIBmQwnjNRLVM64Zi3HowNMCRg8v+GcvzifT4yztRYi/NJKfAoJ4jGHZtdrJdbz R5JxOu8K1QyLfdZrZTpOpTa3EbKtXIv6T5GZC/p94UC55sZztQxchOJDjo6OIPikTuvh XlkXIY4oKcYOq3AsMcsT50CJEnBXH7zAlJiPXdJ/9swrMP4CcT+HnGtwZBkt3oFbElR1 RmnelzVFoxaa4k4yQTezdJk2MfnK/8Z2U5eULj8jkiUlbkblDi1j0hFJxt+eHR3Ee0SC HfoSnRFr4r9/x/UaVjdCUtGYGd0tIR5LwWafCxcOVagQFBy0+nKy/Am9DZn8LhOdFb1E 2g5Q== X-Received: by 10.204.157.150 with SMTP id b22mr9407126bkx.121.1362495666311; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fw3sm7210991bkc.9.2013.03.05.07.01.04 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:01:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <513608AF.50005@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:01:03 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> <51068355.6010904@HIDDEN> <510EC9AA.5000204@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <510EC9AA.5000204@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: "automake-patches@HIDDEN" <automake-patches@HIDDEN>, 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 02/03/2013 09:33 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: Reference: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=13435> > > On 01/28/2013 02:55 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: >> On 01/23/2013 01:16 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: >>> >>> I've pushed my attempt to the public rewindable branch >>> 'experimental/djgpp-for-WinNT'. Could you give it a try, >>> when you have time? >>> >> Ping? I'd like to have confirmation of whether DJGPP support works for >> modern Windows before doing the 1.13.2 release; if that's the case, the >> "planned backward incompatibilities" section in NEWS will have to be >> update to make it clear that we only plan to remove DJGPP-on-DOS support, >> and that DGJPP-on-Windows should continue to work correctly. >> > Ping x 2 ? > Another ping. Consider that I will not merge the patch reinstating DJGPP support until someone has confirmed it actually works. Regards, Stefano
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2013 13:56:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 28 08:56:13 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TzpBy-00008k-Ud for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:56:13 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com ([209.85.217.173]:42564) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1TzpBs-00008W-Aa for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:56:05 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id gf7so3876879lbb.4 for <13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:55:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=32FdAECRZP0LK9x9V7U7cVCMwanolUlJzAaPSpV96b0=; b=XJseoKdLO5l9RuCD5iQgC4Nm8zE5IwqOVAe5TNLH6mmz75cpAaoIenhIHxJpXzXnGr mQzT/SKgQAgxX2EF5PJjSvUJ5+XnaLa8fw8ff4OAdjrkQd1pxbcWixk+/1t0CsSQKc43 T80rKk+GOVD2svDY22I7LA8S1mPsM5bFFACqTOHfnhGDJIBXxL369R0tjsLG+ZwSzbD3 BJYyGt3lITIlNYz8n2RftzshzibFxZTR5Qj1FRt1mhYU5Vhf412WZImgNyQ4Ff0i9lTz ETnW3Dt/Gy0A2i3YuKXHD+QPNZNKNTPzUjbwf+PopNb9IkF3nydL4upCFW7o0bcz3vkO wlng== X-Received: by 10.152.113.165 with SMTP id iz5mr13321277lab.50.1359381337841; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u5sm3699222lbm.8.2013.01.28.05.55.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:55:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51068355.6010904@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:55:33 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: "automake-patches@HIDDEN" <automake-patches@HIDDEN>, 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 01/23/2013 01:16 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > Reference: > <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=13435> > > On 01/14/2013 11:29 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> Stefano Lattarini wrote: >>> >>> Well, then it appear we might actually have no problems in keeping DJGPP >>> support. If the new code with split info files disabled works as expected, >>> re-instating support for DJGPP (on modern Windows version) will just mean >>> adding back few simple, unproblematic lines of code. >>> >>> I will post a patch in a few days. No need to hurry, since Automake 1.14 >>> (which would have removed DJGPP support) is not due to appear for several >>> months at least. >> >> Ok, thanks! > > I've pushed my attempt to the public rewindable branch > 'experimental/djgpp-for-WinNT'. Could you give it a try, > when you have time? > Ping? I'd like to have confirmation of whether DJGPP support works for Modern windows before doing the 1.13.2 release; if that's the case, the "planned backward incompatibilities" section in NEWS will have to be update to make it clear that we only plan to remove DJGPP-on-DOS support, and that DGJPP-on-Windows should continue to work correctly. Thanks, Stefano
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2013 12:18:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 23 07:18:20 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45806 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TxzHX-00042q-CT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:18:20 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com ([209.85.217.182]:65150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1TxzHT-00042X-Kx for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:18:18 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id gg6so5513073lbb.13 for <13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:17:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B7fwIvDWQxfjJLGu/zHVmWS5ltTQX44fIZr9/zgRRMo=; b=Yk90wH5VkY9jAqCKgF5SsJFJNb9RYe9lIis4mRaTt+awaw2HZ+dDHaGCsOgh+ISn5l 2cQqSVXNPkwnxH/EDhQ1q+U9OloPC7ZHeCFF6LGY36sOmnQ8QYD5cayvGD3fAECaiUae ty/iMOa30fxme/Zko8CeoouUuxitpmSoaR5Gp/Apk1BpCii+ZHWOkDHezDy3D37CYIMr hgD5pe+7DkZxuO28IQBlXlfk5L6REtvgB8RDTrJyEDSyhNQ4bxc1MkLS57EW5Q3gsFjE VA+rb3+9SCFT2egme+vWx0c6JI8rtm1fUX86GWgvT7Dh4jBET5vTY91KlFzfoNElTciM JrxA== X-Received: by 10.112.101.135 with SMTP id fg7mr637382lbb.87.1358943419879; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iw6sm8230733lab.2.2013.01.23.04.16.57 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:16:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50FFD4B8.7060104@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:16:56 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: "automake-patches@HIDDEN" <automake-patches@HIDDEN>, 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Reference: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=13435> On 01/14/2013 11:29 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Stefano Lattarini wrote: >> >> Well, then it appear we might actually have no problems in keeping DJGPP >> support. If the new code with split info files disabled works as expected, >> re-instating support for DJGPP (on modern Windows version) will just mean >> adding back few simple, unproblematic lines of code. >> >> I will post a patch in a few days. No need to hurry, since Automake 1.14 >> (which would have removed DJGPP support) is not due to appear for several >> months at least. > > Ok, thanks! I've pushed my attempt to the public rewindable branch 'experimental/djgpp-for-WinNT'. Could you give it a try, when you have time? The patch itself is below, for reference. Thanks, Stefano ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- 8< ---- From a126418c850c26dfe366417632fee97f12912462 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 Message-Id: <a126418c850c26dfe366417632fee97f12912462.1358943365.git.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:52:52 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] DGJPP: re-introduce support, on Windows 2000 and later See automake bug#13435. The problematic DGJPP-related code should no longer be necessary today: * the code to support DJGPP-style split info files ('*.i[0-9][0-9]') is no longer needed, since we have dropped support for split info files anyway (see commit v1.13.1-60-gcdba479 and automake bug#13351); * on Windows 2000 and later, modern version of DJGPP support file names starting with dots. With that, the remaining pieces of code required to support DJGPP on non-ancient Windows are few and unobtrusive enough that we re-introduce them, in order to keep DJGPP alive -- the cost/benefit ratio has become definitely small enough for that. Note that support for DJGPP on DOS and Windows 95/98/ME is *not* reintroduced. That is no longer worth worrying about. For reference, here are the commits where we removed DJGPP support: - v1.13-6-gad08bbf, "Drop support for DJGPP, MS-DOS, Windows 95/98/ME" - v1.13-7-gff0c7f8, "general: assume dot-starting file names are supported" * NEWS: Make clear that DJGPP on Windows 2000 and later should still be supported. * automake.in (BEGIN): Override $ENV{SHELL} for DJGPP. * maintainer/syntax-checks.mk (automake_diff_no): Adjust, as there are now eight (not just seven) different lines between 'automake.in' and 'automake'. * bootstrap.sh ($BOOTSTRAP_SHELL): Give a more proper default for DJGPP. Signed-off-by: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> --- NEWS | 2 +- automake.in | 9 +++++++++ bootstrap.sh | 10 ++++++++-- maintainer/syntax-checks.mk | 2 +- 4 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS index 7a25b80..825d24b 100644 --- a/NEWS +++ b/NEWS @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ New in 1.14: for more information. - Support for DJGPP on MS-DOS and/or Windows 95/98/ME has been removed. - Note that both Cygwin and MSYS/MinGW on modern Windows versions will + Note that Cygwin, MSYS/MinGW and DJGPP on modern Windows versions will continue to be fully supported. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ diff --git a/automake.in b/automake.in index 4776581..f77ab7c 100644 --- a/automake.in +++ b/automake.in @@ -32,6 +32,15 @@ BEGIN @Automake::perl_libdirs = ('@datadir@/@PACKAGE@-@APIVERSION@') unless @Automake::perl_libdirs; unshift @INC, @Automake::perl_libdirs; + + # Override SHELL. This is required on DJGPP so that system() uses + # bash, not COMMAND.COM which doesn't quote arguments properly. + # Other systems aren't expected to use $SHELL when Automake + # runs, but it should be safe to drop the "if DJGPP" guard if + # it turns up other systems need the same thing. After all, + # if SHELL is used, ./configure's SHELL is always better than + # the user's SHELL (which may be something like tcsh). + $ENV{'SHELL'} = '@SHELL@' if exists $ENV{'DJDIR'}; } use Class::Struct (); diff --git a/bootstrap.sh b/bootstrap.sh index bb4221d..6291948 100755 --- a/bootstrap.sh +++ b/bootstrap.sh @@ -31,7 +31,13 @@ export AUTOCONF # might be used by aclocal and/or automake export AUTOM4TE # ditto : ${PERL=perl} -BOOTSTRAP_SHELL=${BOOTSTRAP_SHELL-/bin/sh} +if test -n "$DJDIR"; then + # This is required on DJGPP so that Perl's system() uses bash, + # not COMMAND.COM which doesn't quote arguments properly. + BOOTSTRAP_SHELL=${BOOTSTRAP_SHELL-/dev/env/DJDIR/bin/bash.exe} +else + BOOTSTRAP_SHELL=${BOOTSTRAP_SHELL-/bin/sh} +fi # Variables to substitute. VERSION=`sed -ne '/AC_INIT/s/^[^[]*\[[^[]*\[\([^]]*\)\].*$/\1/p' configure.ac` @@ -64,7 +70,7 @@ if test -d automake-$APIVERSION; then fi rm -rf automake-$APIVERSION # Can't use "ln -s lib automake-$APIVERSION", that might not work -# properly on MinGW/MSYS. +# properly on MinGW/MSYS or DJGPP. mkdir automake-$APIVERSION cp -rf lib/* automake-$APIVERSION diff --git a/maintainer/syntax-checks.mk b/maintainer/syntax-checks.mk index e1d5e6b..6e50d68 100644 --- a/maintainer/syntax-checks.mk +++ b/maintainer/syntax-checks.mk @@ -83,7 +83,7 @@ sc_at_in_texi ## There are exactly 7 lines that should be modified from automake.in to ## automake, and 9 lines that should be modified from aclocal.in to ## aclocal. -automake_diff_no = 7 +automake_diff_no = 8 aclocal_diff_no = 9 sc_diff_automake sc_diff_aclocal: sc_diff_% : @set +e; tmp=$*-diffs.tmp; \ -- 1.8.1.rc3.438.ge9abef6
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2013 22:29:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 14 17:29:46 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60395 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TusXJ-0007FB-Uq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:46 -0500 Received: from delorie.com ([65.175.133.15]:35187) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <dj@HIDDEN>) id 1TusXI-0007F4-0s for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:44 -0500 Received: from envy.delorie.com (envy [172.31.3.1]) by delorie.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0EMTF7e020234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:17 -0500 Received: from envy.delorie.com (envy.delorie.com [127.0.0.1]) by envy.delorie.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0EMTEpM010861; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:14 -0500 Received: (from dj@localhost) by envy.delorie.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r0EMTEBv010860; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:14 -0500 Message-Id: <201301142229.r0EMTEBv010860@HIDDEN> From: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> To: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> (message from Stefano Lattarini on Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:47:06 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) Ok, thanks!
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2013 21:47:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 14 16:47:40 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60369 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Tursa-0006GC-0F for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:47:40 -0500 Received: from mail-ee0-f47.google.com ([74.125.83.47]:50464) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1TursX-0006G5-CS for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:47:38 -0500 Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e52so2173150eek.6 for <13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NaBMsFM3rDIZsTL2XWTRmnhDN/au+a35/VmS9dPmFco=; b=CIhi/YMbzz2mwwOvjqsX2xRSrL6T5yL2L1koE9gpBU9mqIT26noedf7kMv4zgQw+45 w9tM94rUN37yEZay8KmtQJx+T9T42yepChlVcr3PTTDTFuQRQGTaKlx00SbujtQnwsof irDciJepGIjdXzU2WD3U87TByoVSObxBMdanCTdW6XvR4PgRQDIRXG7eGPPYFv++CP+V SWnifgSnqRIPTn4OacgSDGeMCieA9MBYmKRXLluX7ETHHl85RLIkRUN1ehgOasOxT0ch dt/LURSuzcPM/CJYz/uBZ0J7iyROLPGgvshjDIyD7uTguVjhfzCJn/6Mk95Y1/pS2HdH 7ShA== X-Received: by 10.14.221.5 with SMTP id q5mr233668605eep.33.1358200030755; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r1sm23065801eeo.2.2013.01.14.13.47.08 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:47:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F47CDA.6040809@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:47:06 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <201301142138.r0ELcowJ008163@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On 01/14/2013 10:38 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> I also forgot to ask a rather important question: does modern DJGPP >> on Windows 2000/XP/7 etc. support file names starting with a dot? > > Just tested djgpp 2.04 with bash 2.05 on windows 7, and it can create > files with a leading dot. > Well, then it appear we might actually have no problems in keeping DJGPP support. If the new code with split info files disabled works as expected, re-instating support for DJGPP (on modern Windows version) will just mean adding back few simple, unproblematic lines of code. I will post a patch in a few days. No need to hurry, since Automake 1.14 (which would have removed DJGPP support) is not due to appear for several months at least. Thanks, Stefano
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Full text available.Received: (at 13435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2013 17:06:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 14 12:06:05 2013 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1TunU5-0004Pb-AH for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:06:05 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:54777) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>) id 1TunU3-0004P0-0N for 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:06:03 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so4152660lab.17 for <13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7QPHgGEexsIo3oOxQ88aOE+1A8pffX+cQ+t8WnIO1EY=; b=Qyjc+Sv5v8CWci1cQqIIaQ0l61+HYDecBIogHrohqTgNUZya5NlsBpg08kpSI+t0it K9OpBWcif6ez7hn69dlflM4+J2m9K2/XjaoePojHVIoxEW7b7+01MFvC6cDDgAa6EQ6h 5b4sV7HmjRfSXBVoJK9xz7w8nKJW7z7DOq+ggj7JOBTCgiokwfO11q2igQ/cZxiCaRic XTtiTJRkcv8aiV1rcQWYGHQa/QE066XE060m85cHO58n0ApajRRiMbmpGHdQwlyPFj1k aB0UAW8go0qPyHmTFv1rXT1myc/R7ht/NyHf6Dy8oiGq355OOSfKnEhzFBWOZrvvXbTZ /dZw== X-Received: by 10.152.148.129 with SMTP id ts1mr83167043lab.19.1358183132175; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (host137-94-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.4.94.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ie3sm5636285lab.4.2013.01.14.09.05.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F43AD0.7020300@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:05:20 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DJ Delorie <dj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#13435: Please don't kill DJGPP support... References: <201301131922.r0DJMaGX024244@HIDDEN> <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <50F3F8C7.7050904@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13435 Cc: 13435 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 01/14/2013 01:23 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > Severity: wishlist > > Reference: > <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2013-01/msg00050.html> > > I'm moving this discussion to bug-automake, so that is will be registered > in our bug tracker, for easier future reference. > > On 01/13/2013 08:22 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> The DJGPP project is still quite alive, with most GNU projects having >> up to date builds for DJGPP. >> I also forgot to ask a rather important question: does modern DJGPP on Windows 2000/XP/7 etc. support file names starting with a dot? Regards, Stefano
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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: automake-bug@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Severity: wishlist Reference: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2013-01/msg00050.html> I'm moving this discussion to bug-automake, so that is will be registered in our bug tracker, for easier future reference. On 01/13/2013 08:22 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > The DJGPP project is still quite alive, with most GNU projects having > up to date builds for DJGPP. > But is it really useful today? That is, Unix emulation under MS systems means MinGW/MSYS or Cygwin today. And while DJGPP was a tremendous help and an amazing piece of software back in its heydays, I'm not sure it is really relevant anymore now (apart for its aficionados, but that could be said for almost any good software). > Since the DJGPP project relies heavily > on being able to build the GNU projects, dropping support in Automake > means that any project updating their Automake scripts will be forced > to drop DJGPP support, whether the project desires that or not. > > If such a trend continues, the Automake team will have effectively > killed off the whole DJGPP project single-handedly. > > Is there any particular reason why support might be dropped? > The main reason were two: 1. the perceived (on my part) irrelevance DJGPP today, and 2. the extra complexity introduced by the need of supporting its '.iNN' info files. But now that Automake is planned to drop support for split info files anyway (see <debbugs.gnu.org/13351>), that second motivation might as well have become irrelevant. And the other pieces of code required to support DJGPP are few and unobtrusive enough that I can consider re-introducing them if I get convinced DJGPP is not truly irrelevant yet. So, in a few days, I hope to be able to push to Automake's git repository an experimental branch that incorporates the changes removing support for split info files, *and* reverts some of the changes where I dropped DJGPP support (that is, all but the Texinfo-related ones). If that is enough to make DJGPP support work again (you or some other interested party will have to test this is the case), then I will consider re-introducing that support. Regards, Stefano
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