GNU bug report logs - #135
eval-defun binds print-level during eval

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: Kevin Ryde <user42@HIDDEN>; dated Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:00:03 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
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> readevalloop

I wondered if eval-defun might be something like separate steps
sexp-at-point, macroexpand/mangle, eval, display-result-of-eval-somehow.
Unless eval-region ends up subtly better like error context or debug or
something ...
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Kevin Ryde <user42@HIDDEN> writes:

> I thought the read/eval/print was a bit too tightly bound up there, and
> that teasing the steps apart might be cleaner than extra ways to
> influence it (parameters or dynamic bindings).  Dunno if that'd be easy
> or hard though.

That's a much better idea.

Looking at the code, it seems that (basically) all you'd need to do is
provide yet yet yet another parameter to readevalloop, and then return
the (last) val, and then refactor eval-region a bit, and then...  uhm...

Ok, it's not totally trivial, but...  :-)

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
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> `eval-region', which both evals and prints the form,

I thought the read/eval/print was a bit too tightly bound up there, and
that teasing the steps apart might be cleaner than extra ways to
influence it (parameters or dynamic bindings).  Dunno if that'd be easy
or hard though.



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>> That argument is actually a stream (which can be a function), though
>> that doesn't help since that receives the individual characters instead
>> of the form to print.
> Ah, right.  So that wouldn't work.  But we could add a new optional
> parameter to `eval-region' to do the suggested thing.
> But is it worth it?

eval-region is slightly problematic with lexical-binding, so if we could
avoid using it that would be good.


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Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> writes:

> That argument is actually a stream (which can be a function), though
> that doesn't help since that receives the individual characters instead
> of the form to print.

Ah, right.  So that wouldn't work.  But we could add a new optional
parameter to `eval-region' to do the suggested thing.

But is it worth it?

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:

> We could extend PRINTFLAG to `eval-region' (which is currently a
> boolean) to be a closure to do the actual printing, for instance.

That argument is actually a stream (which can be a function), though
that doesn't help since that receives the individual characters instead
of the form to print.

Andreas.

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

> The OP considers it a bug because he wants the
> (print-level eval-expression-print-level) binding to only apply during
> printing but not during evaluation.  I can understand
> this interpretation.

Yes, it sounds reasonable.  But, as you said, somewhat tricky to fix,
since it basically calls the C-level `eval-region', which both evals and
prints the form, if I read the code correctly.

No, wait.  fixing this could be done without too much work, I think.
We could extend PRINTFLAG to `eval-region' (which is currently a
boolean) to be a closure to do the actual printing, for instance.

Basically

(eval-region 2 56 (lambda (form)
                    (let ((print-level eval-expression-print-level))
                          ... etc)
                       (prin1 form)))

That should be backwards-compatible, slightly generally useful, and
should allow us to fix this.

Does this sound OK?

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>>> > Yep, eval-expression and eval-last-sexp both seem ok, but eval-defun
>>> > not.  Eg. C-M-x on (progn print-level) ==> 4.
>>> What's the status on this bug?  Is this still a problem?
>> Haven't read the bug thread, but putting (progn print-level) in
>> *scratch* and doing C-M-x on it shows 4 in the echo area.  IOW, that
>> description still applies, in the latest Windows build:

> `C-M-x' uses `eval-expression-print-level' and friends (which default to
> 4), so I think this isn't a bug.

The OP considers it a bug because he wants the
(print-level eval-expression-print-level) binding to only apply during
printing but not during evaluation.  I can understand
this interpretation.


        Stefan
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Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> writes:

> I don't understand why answering a message which begins "Haven't read
> the bug" means the bug can be closed.
>
> As the bug says, some of the thread is missing, but it is easily found.
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> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-04/msg01001.html
>
>     It occurred to me to wonder what business eval-defun has binding
>     those print variables during the eval, as opposed to just the
>     printing of the result, but doing anything about that looks a bit
>     difficult.

Ah, right.  I've now reopened the report.

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

>> Haven't read the bug thread, but putting (progn print-level) in
>> *scratch* and doing C-M-x on it shows 4 in the echo area. IOW, that
>> description still applies, in the latest Windows build:
>
> `C-M-x' uses `eval-expression-print-level' and friends (which default to
> 4), so I think this isn't a bug.

I don't understand why answering a message which begins "Haven't read
the bug" means the bug can be closed.

As the bug says, some of the thread is missing, but it is easily found.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-04/msg01001.html

    It occurred to me to wonder what business eval-defun has binding
    those print variables during the eval, as opposed to just the
    printing of the result, but doing anything about that looks a bit
    difficult.
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"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes:

>> > Yep, eval-expression and eval-last-sexp both seem ok, but eval-defun
>> > not.  Eg. C-M-x on (progn print-level) ==> 4.
>> 
>> What's the status on this bug?  Is this still a problem?
>
> Haven't read the bug thread, but putting (progn print-level) in *scratch* and
> doing C-M-x on it shows 4 in the echo area.  IOW, that description still
> applies, in the latest Windows build:

`C-M-x' uses `eval-expression-print-level' and friends (which default to
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> > Yep, eval-expression and eval-last-sexp both seem ok, but eval-defun
> > not.  Eg. C-M-x on (progn print-level) ==> 4.
> 
> What's the status on this bug?  Is this still a problem?

Haven't read the bug thread, but putting (progn print-level) in *scratch* and
doing C-M-x on it shows 4 in the echo area.  IOW, that description still
applies, in the latest Windows build:

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2011-06-27 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
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Kevin Ryde <user42@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Actually, looking at the code of eval-expression, it seems to only bind
>> those variables around the print part, not the eval part.
>
> Yep, eval-expression and eval-last-sexp both seem ok, but eval-defun
> not.  Eg. C-M-x on (progn print-level) ==> 4.

What's the status on this bug?  Is this still a problem?

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Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> (Some of the discussion seems to be missing from the bug tracker,
> probably a teething problem.)

Yeah, no, it was a double-banger starting on emacs-devel; a patch
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Kevin Ryde wrote (on Mon, 2 Jun 2008 at 09:31 +1000):

> Has it?  It's still coming out as 4 for me (C-M-x recipe in the bug).
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> (But I'm a little unsure how clean my build is at the moment.)

My mistake, thanks for pointing it out. I will reopen this bug.
(Some of the discussion seems to be missing from the bug tracker,
probably a teething problem.)
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don@HIDDEN (Emacs bug Tracking System) writes:
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> This has been fixed.

Has it?  It's still coming out as 4 for me (C-M-x recipe in the bug).

(But I'm a little unsure how clean my build is at the moment.)
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
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> Actually, looking at the code of eval-expression, it seems to only bind
> those variables around the print part, not the eval part.

Yep, eval-expression and eval-last-sexp both seem ok, but eval-defun
not.  Eg. C-M-x on (progn print-level) ==> 4.
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